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of the american association... forgive me. ..the executive director of the association of american physicians, and she is a well—knownsceptics should be given platforms like that? i think it is ill—advised to give people who have, i think, and based on no good scientific data, have real scepticism about vaccines. i don't think it is a good idea to give those people a public platform. two quick ones before we end, dr fauci, because we're close to out of time. one is about the united states and its responsibilities to the wider world. i understand that the us has now reserved enough vaccine to vaccinate its own population five times over and yet it is not a member of the international programme called covax, which is trying to deliver vaccines to the poorer countries in the world to ensure that not just the rich countries, but the poorer countries too, in the end, are fully immunised against covid—19. do you believe, right now, america is stepping up to its wider responsibilities? well, there are two parts to the question you asked. i must tell you, i'm pretty well informed on this and i do not believe it's a correct s
of the american association... forgive me. ..the executive director of the association of american physicians, and she is a well—knownsceptics should be given platforms like that? i think it is ill—advised to give people who have, i think, and based on no good scientific data, have real scepticism about vaccines. i don't think it is a good idea to give those people a public platform. two quick ones before we end, dr fauci, because we're close to out of time. one is about the united states...
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sufficient immunity to have the job but only if it's deemed safe for them to do so the association of american physicians and surgeons sees it would have meant to violation of human rights here's what new yorkers meanwhile think about the bill. well it happened with england yesterday that could be huge i think depending on how that goes people going to be more inspired and feel safer to take it and that's that part of it too we're already questioning. you know if people have their decree actions to accedes should even try and get it so you know they're still preston's that are answered i think it's a good idea for people who actually. i'm sure there's many footballs fully support for civil liberties civil liberties hard our bill of rights fully fully support those rights but i also have to consider that there are public health risks for a flu vaccine is important but it's not mandatory as the common thing can be the same way mandating it seems like it might actually like cause more problems than a texas just because it might get people. to it their backs against the wall but i think everyone should take
sufficient immunity to have the job but only if it's deemed safe for them to do so the association of american physicians and surgeons sees it would have meant to violation of human rights here's what new yorkers meanwhile think about the bill. well it happened with england yesterday that could be huge i think depending on how that goes people going to be more inspired and feel safer to take it and that's that part of it too we're already questioning. you know if people have their decree...
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would require people to be vaccinated if it's the safe for them to have the job but the association of american physicians and surgeons says doing so would about a violation of human rights or gut reaction on the streets of new york. well what happened with england yesterday that's going to be huge i think depending on how that goes we're going to be more inspired and feel safer to take it in that's been part of the 2 we're already questioning. you know if people have their decree actions to accedes sure to even try and get it so you know they're still restaurants that are answered i think it's a good idea for people who actually. i'm sure there's many pitfalls and fully support personnel the real civil liberties part of our our bill of rights fully fully support those rights but i also have to consider it be republicans risk to move back scene is important but it's not mandatory as the common thing can be the same way mandating it seems like it might actually why cause more problems than texas just because it might help people. to have their backs against the wall but i think everyone should take it i me
would require people to be vaccinated if it's the safe for them to have the job but the association of american physicians and surgeons says doing so would about a violation of human rights or gut reaction on the streets of new york. well what happened with england yesterday that's going to be huge i think depending on how that goes we're going to be more inspired and feel safer to take it in that's been part of the 2 we're already questioning. you know if people have their decree actions to...
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sufficient immunity to have the job but only if it's deemed safe for them to have it the association of american physicians and surgeons says that it would amount to a violation of human rights is what new york is think of the bill what would happen with the england yesterday that could be huge i think depending on how that goes it's going to be more inspired and feel safer to take a team that's been part of the too ready questioning. you know if people have on their decree actions to taxi to even try and get it so you know there's no question that are answered i think it's a good idea for people to actually. i'm sure there's many pitfalls always support her similar to the liberty. car or bill of rights only fully supports those rights but i also consider if there are public health risks the flu vaccine is important but it's not mandatory at the comp it thing can be the same way mandating it seems like it might actually like cause more problems than it fixes just because it might get people. to like their backs against the wall but i think everyone should i mean it is concerning but i'm the only way forwar
sufficient immunity to have the job but only if it's deemed safe for them to have it the association of american physicians and surgeons says that it would amount to a violation of human rights is what new york is think of the bill what would happen with the england yesterday that could be huge i think depending on how that goes it's going to be more inspired and feel safer to take a team that's been part of the too ready questioning. you know if people have on their decree actions to taxi to...
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sufficient immunity to have the job but only if it's deemed safe for them to have it the association of american physicians and surgeons says that it would amount to a violation of human rights is what new yorkers think about the bill i support the bill i support measures that would require. a coronavirus novel coronavirus of the 19 vaccine there are obvious in clear public health risks since the flu vaccine is important but it's not mandatory that's the common thing can be the same way if someone chooses to take that risk with their lives just once they're not putting my life in risk that's up to them mandating it seems like it might actually work cause more problems than a picture of just because of my people. doing their backs against the wall i think is as mine is it's proving to be safe for people even medical exceptions that are real medical exceptions yeah i would be in favor of. human rights n.g.o.s accuse rich nations of hoarding covert vaccines claiming only one in 10 people who have access to the jobs in the poorest countries will be taking a closer look at that later this hour next the festive
sufficient immunity to have the job but only if it's deemed safe for them to have it the association of american physicians and surgeons says that it would amount to a violation of human rights is what new yorkers think about the bill i support the bill i support measures that would require. a coronavirus novel coronavirus of the 19 vaccine there are obvious in clear public health risks since the flu vaccine is important but it's not mandatory that's the common thing can be the same way if...
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to give testimony at a hearing in his committee and doctor orient is a member of the association of american physicians and surgeons of the benign sounding name that obscures dangerous policies. according to "the new york times" doctor orient's association quote, opposes government involvement in medicine nd and views federal vaccine mandates was a violation of the human rights. doctor orient herself has expressed skepticism about coronavirus vaccines and continues to hawk hydroxychloroquine as covid-19 treatment following the lead of president trump who boosted the drug despite scientific evidence that it is ineffective. so while president biden is nominating experienced admitted public servants to leave lead be in ministrations health care policy the next administration's healthcare policy the republic and majority is inviting prominent anti- factors to senate committee hearings. a study in contrast to say the least. after one of the most difficult years in recent memory we finally have a light at the end of the tunnel amid the discovery of several effective and safe vaccines and the best chance we h
to give testimony at a hearing in his committee and doctor orient is a member of the association of american physicians and surgeons of the benign sounding name that obscures dangerous policies. according to "the new york times" doctor orient's association quote, opposes government involvement in medicine nd and views federal vaccine mandates was a violation of the human rights. doctor orient herself has expressed skepticism about coronavirus vaccines and continues to hawk...
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american association of physicians and surgeons doesn't mean anything really. it's not the american medical association or an association that represents most physicians. number two, i'm not so surprised that that organization exists. i'm surprised by what you're surprised by, which is that they're given this sort of platform. especially at this time, in the throes of this pandemic, we talked about hydroxychloroquine, something that people said hey, look, that's worth exploring several months ago, it was explored. the studies were done. and they didn't bare any fruit. i wish they had, but they didn't. some studies showed they could make people worse off. why? when you have covid-19 and you give certain substances, in this case, hydroxychloroquine, it could worsen their prognosis. it's disappointed. over the weekend i wrote no amount of science can rescue us. we talk about the vaccines and therapeutics, they're wonderful, but no amount of science can rescue us if we have this backwards looking anti-science approach to things and as a result we also don't engage i
american association of physicians and surgeons doesn't mean anything really. it's not the american medical association or an association that represents most physicians. number two, i'm not so surprised that that organization exists. i'm surprised by what you're surprised by, which is that they're given this sort of platform. especially at this time, in the throes of this pandemic, we talked about hydroxychloroquine, something that people said hey, look, that's worth exploring several months...
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camara phyllis jones, the past president of the american public health association. family physicianmiologist and longtime anti-racism activist. she joins us from atlanta where she teaches at emory rollins school of public health and the morehouse school of medicine. it is great to have you back, doctor. you are joining us on the first day of early voting in the senate runoff races that could determine the balance of the senate. but we're here to talk to you about who should get this vaccine. can you talk about how it is being rolled out and how that decision is made? >> yes. thank you for having me back. the advisory committee on immunization practices, which advises the cdc, met a few weeks ago and proposed that health care workers and people who live in long-term care facilities receive the vaccine first. i agree tse who are more exposed through their work or to the living situations should get the vaccine first, but i think that the paddle actually neglecte to recognize that not only are health-care workers more exposed to their work but other essential workers are inosed through
camara phyllis jones, the past president of the american public health association. family physicianmiologist and longtime anti-racism activist. she joins us from atlanta where she teaches at emory rollins school of public health and the morehouse school of medicine. it is great to have you back, doctor. you are joining us on the first day of early voting in the senate runoff races that could determine the balance of the senate. but we're here to talk to you about who should get this vaccine....
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jane orient, served as executive director of the association of american physicians and surgeons, aaps, since 1989 and currently president of doctors for disaster preparedness. more than 200 of her papers and op-ed poses have been published in the science and -- including risk assessment, natural and technological hazards and nonhazards and medical economics and ethics. she's the editor of aaps news, the doctor for disaster preparedness newsletter, civil perspectives and managing editor of the journal of american physicians and surgeons. she obtained her undergraduate degree in chemistry and mathematics from the university of arizona in tucson and ph.d. from columbia university in 1974. dr. orient is formally clinically -- is former clinical faculty in the department of internal medicine at university of arizona college of medicine and been in solo private practice of internal general medicine since 1981. doctor. >> thank you, chairman johnson and ranking member peters and committee members for allowing me to present the plea of practicing doctors for early and pr prophylactic treatmen
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>> well, i have to admit when i saw that ron johnson had invited the head of the american association of physiciansurgeons to speak, i thought it was a joke. they are a group that claim that obama won the 2008 election by hypnotizing intellectuals, young people and jews. they've also claimed that immigration leads to leprosy. they've also been involved in junk science campaigns, trying to strike down indoor smoking bans. so this is not a group that is anywhere near the mainstream of medical opinion. i guess on the one hand i was shocked. on the other hand given the amount of disinformation that's coming out of the republican party at the moment i was not that surprised. but it's exactly the type of thing that's going to make it so difficult, even when we get vaccines and even when we have enough doses that's going to make it so difficult to really defeat covid. >> yeah, there was -- we should be fair here and say there was a lot of democrats and liberals who were very skeptical of the vaccine before election day, and i think there was some real reason for that because basically trump was pushing fo
>> well, i have to admit when i saw that ron johnson had invited the head of the american association of physiciansurgeons to speak, i thought it was a joke. they are a group that claim that obama won the 2008 election by hypnotizing intellectuals, young people and jews. they've also claimed that immigration leads to leprosy. they've also been involved in junk science campaigns, trying to strike down indoor smoking bans. so this is not a group that is anywhere near the mainstream of...
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states is happy with this pick in fact just last week a number of prominent medical associations including the american college of physicians the american college of pediatrics sent a letter to joe biden saying that they felt what was important was not to have a politician in this role but instead someone with public health experience still we know that he is getting the blessing of the top infectious disease specialist specialist dr anthony found she has just spoken saying that he is an excellent pick i want to pick up on something else and. report that can be given that rudy giuliani was the man who is essentially spent heading trying to push to get the election results have attend and he is now in hospital with kovan where does that leave president trump's efforts. well obviously not in a very good state in peril in many cases but it was already in peril given the fact that most of these legal challenges have failed. campaign continually says that it has overwhelming evidence of widespread fraud but even some republican appointed judges have thrown these cases out saying that they're flimsy at best so even if donald trum
states is happy with this pick in fact just last week a number of prominent medical associations including the american college of physicians the american college of pediatrics sent a letter to joe biden saying that they felt what was important was not to have a politician in this role but instead someone with public health experience still we know that he is getting the blessing of the top infectious disease specialist specialist dr anthony found she has just spoken saying that he is an...
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leon me is the president of the national medical association, the largest tionatil organi representing african american physicians their patients. this summer, the organization launched a covid-19 taskforce, hoping to become a central source of information for the black community surrounding the coronavirus. >> we wanted to be that trusted source and have an independent, nonpartisan lens log at the data tobr form ge of clarity to help people to un erstand whatct is true and what in fact is f.icti >> reporter: and the national medical association is working schools, churches, and civill rights groups to talk about the ines within the blac communities they serve. as a medical professional, do you feelrustrated? >> no, no, no. i'm a family physician. i practicear on the ast side of columbus, ohio. this is part of what i do everyday. "docto means "to teach." it is not a dictatorship. we negotiate. we discuss a patient's ccern about a particular possible side effect. it's informed discussion,f rmed consent. that's what we do as health care professionals. >> reporter: as an educator, freeman hrabowski says the responsi
leon me is the president of the national medical association, the largest tionatil organi representing african american physicians their patients. this summer, the organization launched a covid-19 taskforce, hoping to become a central source of information for the black community surrounding the coronavirus. >> we wanted to be that trusted source and have an independent, nonpartisan lens log at the data tobr form ge of clarity to help people to un erstand whatct is true and what in fact...
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of the first cancer chemotherapy trial, dr. hirsch, the former physician in chief of rockefeller university hospital, a tribute to dr. alexander in the journal of the american medical association he reminded readers of the bari disaster in the inquisitive physician investigator who, oh, sifted through the horrors and extracted and gm. something potentially useful for the abatement of human disease. thank you. >> thank you for fascinating presentation, so important. i spent much of my crew working on first world war and one of the most powerful and disturbing experiences i've had is walking on the western front and seeing these mustard gas canisters that are still lying out there on the ground in many places and they are still very dangerous point sometimes people step on them and they get splashed by this stuff. >> they still keep servicing from the mock underneath bari harbor, and dozens and dozens of italian fishermen have been sent to the emergency room with weird burns on their arms from bringing them up with the fish in their net. >> wow. they've got to be aware of that danger i would think. >> they have whole groups studying it still to this day. >> one of things that's
of the first cancer chemotherapy trial, dr. hirsch, the former physician in chief of rockefeller university hospital, a tribute to dr. alexander in the journal of the american medical association he reminded readers of the bari disaster in the inquisitive physician investigator who, oh, sifted through the horrors and extracted and gm. something potentially useful for the abatement of human disease. thank you. >> thank you for fascinating presentation, so important. i spent much of my crew...
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of the national birth equity collaborative. dr. camara phyllis jones, family physician, epidemiologist, and past president of the american public health associationeaching at emory rollins school of public health and the morehouse school of medicine. we will link to the piece they co-authored with two african-american women doctors in "the washington post" piece, "say her name: dr. susan moore." when we come back, an apology from "the kansas city star." stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: "k.c. blues" by charlie parker. this is democracy now! i'm amy goodman. "the kansas city star," one of the most influential newspapers in the midwest, has apologized for the paper's 140 year racist history. the apology appeared in a recent article titled "the truth in black and white." it began with these words -- "today we are telling the story of a powerful local business that has done wrong. for 140 years, it has been one of the most influential forces in shaping kansas city and the region. and yet for much of its early history -- through sins of both commission and omission -- it disenfranchised, ignored and scorned generations of black kansas citians. it rei
of the national birth equity collaborative. dr. camara phyllis jones, family physician, epidemiologist, and past president of the american public health associationeaching at emory rollins school of public health and the morehouse school of medicine. we will link to the piece they co-authored with two african-american women doctors in "the washington post" piece, "say her name: dr. susan moore." when we come back, an apology from "the kansas city star." stay with...
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american public health association. doctor georges benjamin, the executive director of the american public health association. >>> still to come, how the current administration's immigration policies are preventing some of the most qualified physicians from working in covid hot spots. but first, some breaking news. some very good breaking news for immigration advocates and dreamers. last night, a federal judge reinstated the deferred action for childhood arrivals program. that is daca. donald trump tried to end the program in 2017. his acting homeland security secretary suspended daca pending a quote comprehensive review. the judge's ruling now swiftly grants thousands of immigrants whose parents brought them to the united states, as young children, the ability to continue working and going to school in the united states. my job is to help new homeowners who have turned into their parents. i'm having a big lunch and then just a snack for dinner. so we're using a speakerphone in the store. is that a good idea? one of the ways i do that is to get them out of the home. you're looking for a grout brush, this is -- garth, did he ask for your help? -no, no. -no. we all see it. we all see it. he has blue hair. -okay. -blue. progressive can
american public health association. doctor georges benjamin, the executive director of the american public health association. >>> still to come, how the current administration's immigration policies are preventing some of the most qualified physicians from working in covid hot spots. but first, some breaking news. some very good breaking news for immigration advocates and dreamers. last night, a federal judge reinstated the deferred action for childhood arrivals program. that is daca....
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of rhode island. todd young, republican from indiana. we've got the american medical association, american hospital association, emergency room physicians. a lot of the interest groups that weighed in because jennifer and her husband corey have done such a good job making the case. so it is sort of like when you are making sausage and you are trying to get everything in, can you get it in at the last moment, especially when normally you put bills in at year end that have been through committee processes. committees haven't been meeting the way they have, you know, because of covid. but i think this -- if we're going to focus on the going forward challenge, the backwards looking challenge has been grim and horrific. but we've got a going forward challenge. if we are going to focus on the going forward challenge, we need the lorna greens of this world that know they've got support and they won't suffer by it or have their licensing privileges taken away, but they will have a group of people saying, we have the support for you. that's what this bill is all about. >> i can add to that. >> yes. last word to you. >> thank you. sorry. if i can
of rhode island. todd young, republican from indiana. we've got the american medical association, american hospital association, emergency room physicians. a lot of the interest groups that weighed in because jennifer and her husband corey have done such a good job making the case. so it is sort of like when you are making sausage and you are trying to get everything in, can you get it in at the last moment, especially when normally you put bills in at year end that have been through committee...
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think this person represents the aps, which is not the american medical association, i think it's a far-right political group of about 5,000 physiciansybe other health care personnel that, you know, i have not heard of this group in a while. i remember in the past they were discrediting lyn ining links be and aids, saying aids was not caused by the hiv virus, linking abortions to breast cancer. all sorts of crazy things. the point is u.s. congress has access to the world's greatest scientists. any one of the national academies, you know, including myself would be more than happy to come to washington to speak to congress. we would do it at our own expense. rather than tap someone from the national academies of medicine or national academies of science, they bring in conspiracy theory groups. it makes no sense. one of the stories of this epidemic is going to be that, yes, the coronavirus killed so far 300,000 americans, but it was enabled by anti-science groups that downplayed the severity of the epidemic, touted spectacular cures like hydroxychloroquine, which doesn't work, which tried to attribute covid deaths to other causes so tha
think this person represents the aps, which is not the american medical association, i think it's a far-right political group of about 5,000 physiciansybe other health care personnel that, you know, i have not heard of this group in a while. i remember in the past they were discrediting lyn ining links be and aids, saying aids was not caused by the hiv virus, linking abortions to breast cancer. all sorts of crazy things. the point is u.s. congress has access to the world's greatest scientists....
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george day, a physician who arkansas andans in virginia said at the 71st reading of the american medical -- m -- meeting of the medical association, it is my belief that practically all negroes are venereals. it is my belief you are ever cured of their venereal disease. when an occasional one is cured, totakes himself to harm become repeatedly infected. i'm convinced the majority of respect theot sanctity of wedlock, so the endless chain of infection and reinfection goes merrily on. now, a century remove i think we might consider these venereal disease reports in a slightly different way. beennian measures have taken to discipline the bodies and desires of african-american soldiers, making the medical apparatus of the u.s. military a vital mediator of the overlapping taxonomies of race, class, gender, and citizenship in the army. while the intersecting stigmas of race and sexuality gave credence to the belief in the black than arial body, we might increased venereal of thisong black troops -- as small escapes made against the ruling military orthodoxy as politics of respectability espoused by african-american leaders on the homef
george day, a physician who arkansas andans in virginia said at the 71st reading of the american medical -- m -- meeting of the medical association, it is my belief that practically all negroes are venereals. it is my belief you are ever cured of their venereal disease. when an occasional one is cured, totakes himself to harm become repeatedly infected. i'm convinced the majority of respect theot sanctity of wedlock, so the endless chain of infection and reinfection goes merrily on. now, a...
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of the american adequate association. leading figures taking the vaccine could make a difference, is what i asked her. i think it is very important for everybody to see that the people that they respect, their physiciansng this vaccine to help instill confidence in the vaccine. even though mr trump probably still has some immunity, you would like to see him get it to? that will be between him and his doctor but folks who have had diagnosed coronavirus are not yet in the queue to receive shots in the united states. but hopefully he will get it at some point in time, as will every other american that is able to. what do you make of the new variants of coronavirus, around 23, most medics and scientists are telling us? it cannot, if it is so infectious, surely not only be in the uk and south africa, do you think it's in the us? we think it probably is. we haven't done the extensive testing that has been done in the uk, but it probably is there. it seems to make it more contagious but we do believe — testing is being done right now to confirm this — that the virus, the vaccine will still prevent this new strain of virus. but it brings home the point that regardless of the strain, regardless of your situati
of the american adequate association. leading figures taking the vaccine could make a difference, is what i asked her. i think it is very important for everybody to see that the people that they respect, their physiciansng this vaccine to help instill confidence in the vaccine. even though mr trump probably still has some immunity, you would like to see him get it to? that will be between him and his doctor but folks who have had diagnosed coronavirus are not yet in the queue to receive shots...
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associate director of health policy. she joined b.p.c. after serving as manager of payment policy for the american academy of orthopedic surgeons. prior to that she was a physician assistant in, i will say, not exactly a rural hospital, orthopedic surgery at mount sy nye health system in new york city. then dr. lisa miller. . miller is a practicing for all re physician ages in her hometown in maine. she's been on the incident command team for stevens memorial hospital since march. finally but certainly not least, walter panteker is one of three trusteers in helmsley charitable trust. he is grandson of lee oh in a helmsley an served as a paramedic, firefighter and law enforcement officer. this work has led him to create the rural health care and vulnerable children in subsahara africa programs within the helmsley charitable trust organization. the helmsley trust has been a supporter of our work here at b.p.c. which we are very grateful for that support. thank you, walter. and with that, senator king, let me turn it over to you and welcome you to this event. senator snfment senator king: bill, it's great to be here. i want to thank the bipartisan policy center tho
associate director of health policy. she joined b.p.c. after serving as manager of payment policy for the american academy of orthopedic surgeons. prior to that she was a physician assistant in, i will say, not exactly a rural hospital, orthopedic surgery at mount sy nye health system in new york city. then dr. lisa miller. . miller is a practicing for all re physician ages in her hometown in maine. she's been on the incident command team for stevens memorial hospital since march. finally but...
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physician workforce. so we are all very excited to make that difference. >> fantastic. all right. senior director of student affairs and programs at the association of americanand deecan of admissions at georgetown law school, jeffrey cornblatt, thank you. we appreciate you both being with us this morning. >>> still ahead, msnbc's lawrence o'donnell gets his last word a lot earlier this morning. he joins us next in 30 seconds. >>> this is where someone like michael flynn never belongs anywhere near the white house, let alone inside the oval office and his lawyer sydney powell. the best advice i can give to the president is keep michael flynn and sydney powell out of the white house and then those really bad ideas will stay out of the oval office as well. >> that is former republican governor chris christie advising president trump to ignore such crazy ideas as declaring martial law in swing states and then using a conspiracy theorist to help him overturn the election. and, in effect, launch a coup or maybe you call it an autocoup against the president-elect of the united states, joe biden. the host of msnbc's "the last word," lawrence o'donnell. thanks for b
physician workforce. so we are all very excited to make that difference. >> fantastic. all right. senior director of student affairs and programs at the association of americanand deecan of admissions at georgetown law school, jeffrey cornblatt, thank you. we appreciate you both being with us this morning. >>> still ahead, msnbc's lawrence o'donnell gets his last word a lot earlier this morning. he joins us next in 30 seconds. >>> this is where someone like michael flynn...