the dmr couldn't tell you who they belong to. where are the records? we don't know. no, dead end. man: there is, of course, a big coal-mining industry in south africa. it is multi-faceted, from mining to transportation of coal tall kinds of services in communities that have built up around the coal-mining towns of south africa. the coal-mining sector has been an extremely successful example of black economic empowerment, and now suddenly they've been told, "no, no, the future is green, the future is not coal." for them, this is a disaster because of their new investments into the coal sector that they see as possibly becoming stranded assets. [crowd chanting indistinctly] man: oh, the challenges that we find ourself into would be the low salaries to our members, and as the union, our role and responsibility is to fight for job security. the mines, some of them are closing because they are saying the export price has dropped and so on, so forth, the coal price has dropped, and so on, so forth. we are of the view that the price has been manipulated. week ago, the president was addre