so when you had, you know, nicole hannah jones, 1619 project lady from "the new york times" magazinece between being politically black and racially black in a tweet that she later deleted. she was kind of telling of her buddy what that's really about. this is actually about a political movement that's leveraging race and using racism to pull an agenda on people and two, as we see in the case of mimi groves, to get revenge on people, to ruin people's futures and to ultimately empower certain people who have the right race politics, which is something that stands in the direct opposition to the decoration of a dependence, constitution, civil rights act, everything united states is about. >> will: it stands in direct opposition to every thing i believe deeply, but i want to see you as a man by her actions, that i want to se see you as an individual. this movement goes by the name of antiracism when in fact employing what appear to be the most racist perspectives on society. i've heard you, james come on for example the joe grogan podcast. there are those that believe in the ideology who