joining us now is paul offit, director of the vaccine education center.hanks so much for being with us this morning. two people had adverse reactions yesterday when they got the shot. they had severe -- they had a history of severe allergies. they are said to be recovering well. yet, it was enough for the uk to issue this warning. what's the takeaway? >> i think it's an odd recommendation. i mean, the smarter thing to do would be to try and look at these two patients and see what specific component of the vaccine they were allergic to. because i think by making a blanket recommendation of anybody who has had a severe allergic reaction can't get this vaccine is a little silly when, for example, someone may have an egg allergy and think, i can't get this vaccine, when this may have nothing to do with eggs. certainly, vaccines can cause severe allergic reactions. in the united states, 1 out of every 1.4 million vaccines is complicated by an allergic, usually to the gelatin or the latex stopper, which is part of the vaccine as well. and that's why you're aske

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offit says absolutely. fact is, children can get sick, they can suffer, and they can occasionally die from this virus. and children can suffer longer-term effects, so-called multisystem inflammatory disease of children, so-called misc. hopefully, early next year, we will start to generate the kind of studies that make us feel comfortable vaccinating children. >> reporter: pfizer and moderna have started testing their covid vaccines on teens in the u.s. it's likely, as ttrazeneca and johnson & johnson will follow suit. >> i suspect, over 2021, we'll see more and more trials in younger and younger children, and our hope is that, by the end of 2021, there would be vaccines available for children as young as six months of age, if that's possible. >> reporter: which would be on time for the new school year. dr. moldanado is on california's vaccine-safety review committee and says trials will likely involve different dosing regimens. >> in conducting and assessing vaccines in kids is always, no matter what the va

doctor paul offit is an infection disease specialist and director of the vaccine education center athildren's hospital of philadelphia. >> are we potentially looking at medicines, at the pharmaceutical industry's finest hour? >> i think so. this is a technological marvel. if you asked a hundred scientists in the united states in january of 2020, i think zero would have said that was possible. >> it's been a breathtaking and dramatic effort and it started before anyone had even heard the name covid-19. this year's new years celebration had a familiar feel. who had even heard of social distancing back then? soon enough, we'd know all about it. but what most people don't know is that back in january when china reported its first covid death, it also published the virus's genetic sequence nap's when the ra -- that's when the race for the vaccine began. dozens of companies around the world jumped in. a scientist and businessman who has helped develop several vaccines. >> we were not competing between these vaccines. we were competing against the virus. >> just two months after the genetic

paul offit, i'm glad you were, i hope you're feeling good. happy new year to you. >> you, too. >>> and still to come, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell likely sinking a push for $2,000 stimulus checks. more on the so-called poison pills that democrats won't take. >>> and what this means as we close in on the critical georgia senate runoffs. both republicans in those races are pushing for these $2,000 payments, so what happens if this push fails? >>> plus the u.s. vaccine rollout needs a jump start. health officials have said 20 million people would have gotten a shot in the arm by january 1st, but we are far short of that. so what happened? research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's one that'll really take you back. wow! what'd you get, ryan? it's customized home insurance from liberty mutual!!! what does it do bud? it customizes our home insurance so we only pay for what we need! and what did you get, mike? i got a bike. only pay for what

paul offit, just a minute away. and as congress struggles to get a relief deal done, is the standstill putting the record rally at risk? "power lunch" begins right now >>> thank you, ty. welcome to "power lunch. we're watching shares of disney up 15% today it's inning vestor laid out plans for domination on the streaming front. it's also a big week for ipos, with airbnb up and doordash still up more than 65% from its ipo price of 102 and we're waiting pfizer and biontech let's get to meg tirrell for more on that story hi, meg. >> hi, kelly while we are expecting the fda to issue emergency use authorization, really at any point now after this positive vote from its advisory committee last night, here's the timeline of what we're looking for in the coming days. so the fda is working now essentially on that emergency use authorization. today and over the weekend an outside group of advisers to the cdc is meeting to discuss the vaccine and will vote to give its recommendation for that specific vaccine after the fda give

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obviously, you've talked to paul offit. he sits on these advisory committees, but i think one of the things that's going to be important is exactly what you're saying, alisyn. is to address the significant vaccine hesitancy that already exists by really, really defining exactly what happened here, not shying away from it. something happened, the two workers, they're doing fine. i don't know, maybe you know, if they received epinephrine or benadryl or what they received that might give some context into how significant these allergic reactions were, but also, what is it going to mean for people going forward? should, if somebody has had any kind of reaction in the past, should they be pre-treated with benadryl or something like that to basically, you know, mitigate of reduce the likelihood that they'll have another allergic response? we're learning, right now, realtime, as we go along, as we see this -- you know, what will be one of the largest vaccine rollouts in our history go out, we've got to define these things very, ve

paul offit voted yes. >> i think this vaccine is then going to roll off th assembly line, off the trucks, off the planes and into the arms of the american public no later than monday. >> reporter: the cdc is expected to issue its own approval this weekend prioritizing who gets the vaccine first. in group one-a, front line medical workers as well as residents and workers in long term care facilities group one-b essential workers like teachers, emergency responders food handlers and transportation workers. in group one-c, adults 65 and older or those with high risk medical conditions 50 million americans expected to be vaccinated by the end of january 100 million by the end of february. >> i do not have any information on it. >> reporter: already doctor's offices have been flooded with calls from people looking for answers. >> when will it be available? how is it going to be administered how are they going to know to be notified about it when it starts those type of questions. >> reporter: new york hospitals are eager. >> can't be overstated this is what we have been praying for, what we h

he was a legend on the pitch a controversial but inspirational figure offit. tens of thousands mourned his death last week from a heart attack at 60 he's gone but no one is letting him be forgotten. this came from our fanaticism from our love for diego a commemoration of that could help improve the country's economic situation this is in the design by some of his most ardent fans who have launched a campaign on change dot org appealing to the president and the central bank to issue 810000 pesos note with about $124.00 what we are seeing is how people you know use reacting in a way that brings you know maradona back you know to the center of the scene. with something. up very concrete. and very. symbolic such as a bank. now with the economy weakened by debt inflation and lack of foreign investment argentina needs him again. it could be an interesting boost to the argentine economy imagine the central bank accumulating reserves this way with interest from abroad to generate dollars the petition has so far attracted more than $20000.00 signatures and is growing r

offit, who was with you last hour, is on the fda advisory committee. he said the data raises a lot of questions. they had two suddeny subjects get ill after having the vaccine. they seemed to have neurological illnesses. there are different questions that need to be answered. >> and it seems to be different impacts given various levels of vaccine administered to patients as well. so as you said, a lot of questions still to be asked so we don't expect to see that approved here in the u.s. any time soon. elizabeth, thank you very much. we really appreciate it. >>> why is the u.s. vaccination rate lagging behind that of other countries? cnn's kristen holmes is in washington tracking the vaccine rollout for us. kristen, what is the holdup? we expected or they promised 20 million by the end of the year. that's tomorrow. what's going on here? that's right, bianna. where we stand right now the cdc said 11 million doses have been shipped out but only 2.1 million doses have actually been put into people's arms. senior administration officials say this number is

offit, thank you as always. whit?>> mary, we do want to turn now to the latest on those $600 stimulus payments. the money now on its way to millions of americans across the country, as the push to increase the checks is locked in another standstill on capitol hill. rachel scott is live in washington with the very latest. rachel, good morning. >> reporter: whit, good morning. some americans will be waking up this morning with that $600 stimulus already in their bank account. the treasury department says they started sending out those $600 stimulus checks yesterday. so if you have direct deposit set up with the irs for your tax returns, you can expect the money to go straight into your bank account. otherwise, you will be receiving a paper check. those are set to go out later today. americans who earned $75,000 or less can expect to receive the full $600 stimulus check. that means couples making a combined income of $150,000 a year will be receiving $1,200, plus an additional $600 per child. so a family of four will be

offit who is on these committees just sort of, you know, he reinforced that as well. >> okay.anjay, thank you for helping us sort through all of this breaking news. we really appreciate it. >> you got it. >>> okay. so millions of americans are in dire financial straits because of the pandemic. will congress make a deal before the holidays? some things are good to know. like where to find the cheapest gas in town and which supermarket gives you the most bang for your buck. something else that's good to know? if you have medicare and medicaid you may be able to get more healthcare benefits through a humana medicare advantage plan. call the number on your screen now and speak to a licensed humana sales agent to see if you qualify. learn about plans that could give you more healthcare benefits than you have today. depending on the plan you choose, you could have your doctor, hospital and prescription drug coverage in one convenient plan. from humana, a company with nearly 60 years of experience in the healthcare industry. you'll have lots of doctors and specialists to choose from.

paul offit, how he framed the events of the day after the discussion was over. >> the question is neverow enough, and i think we know enough now to say this appears to be our way out of this awful mess. that's why i voted yes. >> now i will say that there were some reservations and discussion about some of the sub groups, people who should take it with certain warnings. take a look at the list. this is going to come up again and again. children under the age of 16. pregnant women, breast-feeding women. this was a big point that also was discussed. pregnant women were not part of the trial. but a lot of people who are on the committee, the way that they sort of described it was look, we don't have data to show benefit. nor do we have data to show harm. that discussion point to be continued, people who are immunocompromised, finally, people who have had a severe reaction to vaccine in the past are probably going to be recommended not to take this. now, if the fda still does go ahead and authorize this under emergency use which looks like will happen later today, maybe over the next few ho

offit, what does the data tell you about a pregnant woman and the vaccine? >> this is a tricky one, john, because we don't know about the effect on pregnant women, pregnant women were not included in the study. some women did become pregnant over the course of trials, we will have some limited information, but the answer is we just don't know. at the same time, you don't want to be excluding a group that's otherwise high risk. pregnant women tend to have more severe effects from coronavirus. there may be individuals in that group that are particularly high risk, if you're an icu nurse, maybe if you have diabetes and obesity and asthma, you could be at severe effects from having coronavirus. i am looking for the cdc to make a recommendation, ideally they say we don't know enough information at this point, but we leave the decision to the individual patient and her doctor. >> help me with your thoughts, this is a difficult moment and difficult decision for policy makers. you have x amount of doses, you have 50 states, decide you can send them based on populati

offit who is on the fda committee who expected dr. hahn to okay this vaccine today or tomorrow any way so there is no what he called saber rattling or other words i can call it. >>> we are behind the curve and one top fda health official told cnn on the lack of messaging. sara has this reporting. this is after we saw the first members of the publics g get th vaccine in the uk. >> reporter: earlier this week there wasn't a plan to do something similar in the u.s. and that lines up really with some of the frustration we have been hearing from public health organizations and state officials say for months hear an effort to educate the american government and seen contracts ink designed to be public awareness campaigns and some have not seen the fruition of that. we are on the cusp of shots going into arms they are particularly concerned. states are especially concerned because they haven't had additional money coming into them from congress. they say we have to not only educate our residents how safe and effective this vaccine is but exp

offit believes you should reserve the second dose. people are saying we are in the middle of the pandemic why wouldn't you give as many people as possible some protection as quickly as possible. >> it's such a fascinating gate. we wi debate. >>> ahead of the vaccine rollout hopefully starting next week millions of medical kits with the syringes and alcohol swabs needed to administer these vaccines are already on their ways to hospitals around the country. >> it's an important first step. cnn's pete muntean is at a pfizer facility in michigan that will be at the center of the vaccine distribution operation. pete, this is a huge logistical challenge here, so how are they preparing? >> reporter: well, pfizer says that trucks carrying the vaccine, jim and poppy, could begin leaving here within 24 hours of that final fda emergency use authorization. what's so interesting here is that this spot is critical to the vaccine distribution network here in kalamazoo, michigan, pfizer's largest facility, 1300 acres, a sprawling complex. we know tha

offit is one person. you saw joe biden talk about this today. but this needs to be much more front and center. i think obama said he might take this thing live on television. it might not be the best viewing but in terms of a public education campaign about this vaccine, that is going to be certainly necessary because people are deeply skeptical and with good reason. >> not according to the science. >> right. >> historically, they might be skeptical. >> i think two things, yeah. >> politicizing it. in terms of the science they shouldn't be skeptical. i'll get it as soon as i can. it's amazing to me operation warp speed an accomplishment of the trump white house and he continues to step all over it. thank you both. >>> millions of americans could be getting their first shots as soon as monday as we wait for fda emergency use authorization that could come any moment now. but ensuring everyone gets a vaccine quickly may depend on the other vaccine still in trials. take the so-called dark horse of the covid-19 vaccine race being developed by johnson

offit and dr.ci feel that you should split it half and half, that way you absolutely get to the 95% efficacy for a certain number of people. there are other people who say, no, we are in the middle of a pandemic, it does offer significant benefit just to give that first dose gs, why wouldn't you just inoculate as many people as possible with the first dose right away? i think that's going to be a point of debate even among the cdc this weekend. >> really interesting. sanjay, thank you very much for all the information. >> you got it. thank you. >>> breaking news. "the new york times" has new reporting on the manhattan district attorney's office investigation into president trump's finances. new details on interviews that they recently completed for a criminal probe. that's next. at university of phoenix, you can earn your degree faster and for less with relevant life experience and eligible transfer credits. because your experience matters. see how much you can save on your degree at phoenix.edu. i

paul offit, thanks very much. >> thank you. >>> still to come this hour president trump has been privately discussing potential preemptive pardons for his children, his son-in-law jared kushner, even rudy giuliani. just amazing. can he do it? >>> and as vaccine approval here in the u.s. draws near states have until friday to determine their plans for getting it out. how will the rollout work? we're going to talk about it ahead. >>> and president trump hinted at, quote, another four years at a white house christmas reception. some of his die hard supporters are still in denial, holding out hope that that could begin in january. it won't. >> i'm hoping that something will turn the tide and i'm just -- i'm a big supporter. >> you think donald trump can still be president? >> i'm hoping that he can still be president. yeah, i absolutely am. every twist-oof- and every backache is telling you: you cannot do this. pain says you can't. advil says you can. ♪ sofi made it so easy to pay off my student loan debt. (chime) choosing sofi was literally one of the best decisions i could have ever made bec

offit, please. >> thank you.ollow up on some of something that was brought up earlier which is briefly this issue of bells palsy. i understand we're looking -- there's the tyranny of small numbers derived from large database and you can't determine causality from small numbers. and i'm glad you're doing follow up. but i don't how we're comfortable that what we're seeing with both the pfizer and moderna pfizer are background rates. if you look at the pfizer trial, it was four cases of bells palsy which works out to eight cases per ten thousand per year. a the moderna it's three cases which works out to about to eight cases per 10,000 per year. if you look at the placebo case, that works out to about 1.2 cases per 10,000 per year. which i had read was roughly the background rate. that in combination with the fact that sars-cov-2 has been reported to be a cause of bells palsy in a handful of people and presenting in the first presentation being bells palsy and found to have sars-cov-2, which it may be two that sars-

he was a legend on the pitch a controversial but inspirational figure offit. tens of thousands mourned his death last week from a heart attack at 60 he's gone but no one is letting him be forgotten for now the even more. this came from our fanaticism from our love. a commemoration of that could help improve the country's economic situation this is the no designed by some of his most ardent fans who have launched a campaign on change dot org appealing to the president and the central bank to issue 810000 pesos note with about $124.00 what we are seeing is how people you know use reacting in a way that brings you know maradona back you know to the center of the scene. with something. up very concrete. and very. symbolic such as a bunker. now with the economy we can buy debt inflation and lack of foreign investment argentina needs him again. and it could be an interesting boost to the argentine economy imagine the central bank accumulating reserves this way with interest from abroad to generate dollars the petition has so far attracted more than $20000.00 signatu

offit for our podcast and i think you were reminding me vaccines can take a quarter century, you know, if they get developed and -- and -- and authorized or approved, at all. so, this is really -- it's -- it's remarkable. and i think, just as a reporter, you know, sort of having reported on this for so long, it is a day that's really worth celebrating, for sure. but it, also, comes on the same day that we've had, tragically, the highest number of people who have died of this disease as well. so many people in the hospital, obviously. we are seeing the surge now of thanksgiving, in terms of new -- newly diagnosed patients. so, it's -- it's tough, wolf. i think it's whip lalash a litt bit. i want to contextualize that better for people and celebrate this but also keep the pedal to the metal on what i think are very surgical and fast-acting strategies, such as masks. vaccines are great. they're really powerful sort of tool but it's going to take a while, as we all know, to see the impact of that. wear a mask now and greatly stop transmission, reduce transmission, at least. and that will

paul offit talking about it. >> i'm worried about the severe anaphylactic reactions. tens of millions that carry epipens because allergies who will believe now that they can't get this vaccine. that's a lot of people. >> okay, so i know as part of the trial you excluded people who had those allergic issues as part of your initial trial. but would you say those tens of millions of people shouldn't get this? how big of a concern is this allergic issue, doctor? >> well, we know that all licensed vaccines have the potential to cause, you know, these acute hypersensitivity reactions which can be very severe and occurs in every 1 to 1 to 1.3 million vaccinations that occur. not all are created equal and doesn't preclude you from getting vaccination. before we make these very broadly reaching proclamations or before we start excluding groups who could potentially benefit from this vaccine i think those two cases in the uq need to be thoroughly investigated by the regulatory authorities. pfizer is, of course, going to relook at its safety information with the fda and then the

offit, please. dr. offit: thank you. i want to follow up on some of something that was brought up earlier which is briefly this issue of bells palsy. i understand we're looking -- there's the tyranny of small numbers derived from large database and you can't determine causality from small numbers. and i'm glad you're doing follow up. but i don't how we're comfortable that what we're seeing with both the pfizer and moderna pfizer are background rates. if you look at the pfizer trial, it was four cases of bells palsy which works out to eight cases per 10,000 per year. and the moderna trial, it's three cases which works out to about to eight cases per 10,000 per year. if you look at the placebo case, that works out to about 1.2 cases per 10,000 per year. which i had read was roughly the background rate. that in combination with the fact that sars-cov-2 has been reported to be a cause of bells palsy in a handful of people and presenting in the first presentation being bells palsy and found to have sars-cov-2, which it may be

offit voted yes. dr. mckin i.t. voted yes. dr. lee voted yes. mr. dallman voted yes. and that concludes the vote. so we do have a favorable vote. that concludes this portion of the meeting. so i will hand it back over to dr. monto. thank you, everybody. >> okay. marion, do you have anything you want to add at this point? [ muted ] >> we can't hear you, marion. >> i apologize. double muted. i just wanted to thank the committee for voting on this very complex topic. i wanted to thank the committee for their discussion and their suggestions. we very much appreciate their input on this very important topic. and we will take what we have heard today into consideration when deciding on not only the eua issue but also how to move on in their development. thank you so much. >> and therefore, our work for the day is done. i wanted to thank the committee, and i want especially to thank the fda, because they have been laboring long and hard. in doing the analysis, dealing with some of the issues, such as the recent anaflaxis episodes. and i will therefore close the meeting and i