in the shade of blue, for example, was written while i was on tour with tavis smiley for the koh significant for black -- covenant for black america book expect old state of the black union convention, you know, gatherings we used to have, that c-span used to air, right? but, you know, so one audience is kind of narrow, professional, right? the other audience is my mama. i remember when i first published exodus, she said, well, i couldn't get past chapter three, or something like that. you know? so the idea is to write with a level of clarity that allows her to access the ideas and to, you know, to be automobile to engage with what i'm doing, right? so, you know, i always tell folk my mama is the center of my moral gravity, so whenever i feel like i'm moving off center, i think about her, and she -- i can recalibrate, i can get back straight, you know? i'm a mama's boy in some ways. so she's, she is the kind of generalized audience. but at the end of the day, e try to write -- i try to write the book, as toni morrison would say, that i want to read. so i'm writing for me too, if that makes s