the authorities green party politicians have made a very big effort to protect the elderly in the vonderen wrong durable for example by creating special times where only they can shop and mean while allowing life otherwise to go on pretty much as normal would you say that is a model that could work elsewhere at least in germany it is a nice model to really try to protect the elderly more but it's never going to prevent the virus from getting to the to the vis groups because people mingle and you always have young people working at hospitals or social care homes and stuff like that so you are it is a nice try and i'm sure it has a good effect but it's not. stop it's not government kind of stuff that i'm nomic of the virus is spreading also into the other groups matthew in many ways this discussion in caps elite's what we saw in the united states essentially in the tensions between donald trump who said just let the economy do its thing and the pandemic will kind of eventually fizzle out to a joe biden who says the economy is never going to really get back on its feet until we get the pandem