with the paint face and the weird horns on his head, his attorney is on the phone with me now, al watkinsar why this guy and supposedly, according to his counselor through his client, a lot of them felt like this is what the president was telling them to do. al, you can hear me, yes? >> yes, i can. i want to tell you it's really important we should stop calling people fools because we have a large percentage of our population who spent a great deal of time in their lives hanging on every word of president trump. my client did not break into the capitol. he had the doors to the capitol held for him by capitol police. my client did not shroud his face in secrecy. he wasn't wearing a bulletproof vest. my client was not armed. he didn't have zip ties. my client fought -- was in the military, served honorably. no criminal background whatsoever. and he, like a lot of other disenfranchised people in our country felt very, very, very solidly in sync with president trump. he felt like his voice was for the first time being heard and what ended up happening over the course of the leadup to the elec