this is one place i can go to get journalism. i'd like to challenge a thought that censorship narrative is just started my mind flashed back 68 d&c hammer was speaking and it was cut away immediately because the media didn't want to see her talking on tv. from an african-american perspective, the narrative has always been biased against us. another thing to talk about trump because tweets at the awesome. i'd like to go a day without a tweet but have to report on it because he's president. finally, black lives matter, i'd like you and how that was presented. for african-americans, we would say just give us a chance to celebrate us, that's why we want black lives matter. we are protesting but the media is writing an essay want to defund police no space perspective on how that was covered. >> you think i want to address your site, therapist and navy of new toys and neck. mean to imply it's new i know not. even when he had activity brutality, there was always an element deciding if the organization is what people do or don't do, how

host: what do you think about the influence of fox news on journalism? guest: there's a lot of that in the book because the journalist i interviewed in slanted, many of them brought up fox news and in fact some blame fox news with what happened to cnn and i thought it was very interesting when they criticized on one hand and some of these people i interviewed were on the decision-making in the discussions about what msnbc was going to become, what cnn was going to become these were executives that worked in that round and they see how the success of fox news when they came on the scene and catered to a conservative audience when roger was catering to the more liberal audience, they saw that success this is according to the interviews this is not first-hand information from me those involved in the discussion said they figured why not just go all out, yes maybe the other news organizations will perceive as leaning left, why not do something that was admittedly unfashionable he left in appeals in the audience that fox news has done and there is a lot to th

it at the peak of the pandemic we now know that isn't the case what's it like writing a book on journalism during log well i wish i'd had foresight that was written in the spring and i think we all thought that was the worst but of course we're now in a much graver situation. and but i but i still think that the themes of. journalism who people believe and how people know what to believe are still as relevant as as they were when i wrote the book i mean i'm right in the title of the book is the issue of fake news especially especially important right now obviously with the i don't know how you would measure the level of. scientific dissonance going on here in britain and around the world against big pharma vaccines and so on . well i think journalists are very conscious that maybe for the 1st time in their lives what they write could be the difference between life and death so i think there's a a gravity to the way and us of what journalism is and i think on the public side there is a growing awareness i would say frightened us of what happens when you live in a society of information chao

host: what about fox news on journalism? >> there is a lot about that in the book a lot of journalist interviewed and slanted many if not most brought up fox news and in fact some blame fox news what happened to cnn i thought that was interesting when they criticize cnn on the one hand and some more and on the decision-making and discussions about what msnbc would become more cnn would become if you were an executive in that realm and they looked at the perceived success of fox news when they came on the scene and catered to a conservative audience when roger ailes thought the rest of the news is catering to a more liberal audience they saw that success those that were involved in the discussion said they figured just go all out maybe the other organizations were perceived as leaning left but not do something unabashedly left and appeal to the audience in the way that fox news had done. there is a lot to that in terms why cnn became the way it did and now it has flipped with the success of fox news but also all of the news o

so investigative journalism sometimes you just. obviously always always are going to sources of data. so now straight away we're starting to see a story the probability of surviving is much higher in 1st class compared to that class compared to. the now. just it's just a thing yeah yeah ok great state do a good thing it's good it's good to experiment you know i mean about the labels on things like it's like i mean accusing me and. you think we've come to a lot of. anyway but it's quite easy to like go in and change things like that that's really cool i thought i'd just talk you through a few different like techniques this is small multiples i love small schools and i feel like it's something that you guys can think about so this was something about cases of measles and again look each each one of these babies is a year i could have just as easily had a pipe shop i saw i want to show a baby this is more fun a baby discovered in sports but also allows you to kind of like i did i says this idea again of marrying the subject with the t

at actually got a degree in journalism in 1985 . from university of medicine. and back then, it was a given that you were neutral and non- bias. yet somehow, not sure what happened to . but at some point, journalists appears in on the mass media, not to believe that there's admission and truly sacred his job at is to be kind of citizens advocates partied and inform the people on the viewpoint they may truly believe is in the best interest of the people. it's kind of a social engineering. i actually have gotten physically sick of the horrible bias in journalism in the last few months. and if you want to be truly concerned and scared almost in trouble . turned back and forth between "fox news" and msnbc or cnn and there truly like alternate realities. and obviously the true reality is probably somewhere in the middle part of her people say over the past six months or so that people need to go and do their own research to find out what the real facts are. ... ... . >> what were the shows that you like that we are talking about the answer is and when you're watchin

every journalism around the world. because now there's a president that india british judicial system. a judge has endorsed. has basically supported bumped up their political arguments paul persecuting julian assange.

well, that's always been a function of good journalism i think, eat your greens, that bit.g a crisis in climate, thatis facing a crisis in climate, that is going to affect our children, grandchildren, in quite a short time span, it is the duty ofjournalists to keep reporting that, even if people don't want to read it very much. but how do you engage them and how to make sure they trust what you were saying? these are two elements that really matter for the future, engagement and trust, how do you rebuild it? the engagement bed, it's whatjournalist should do, journalist need to work out how to dramatically, graphically, and repeatedly write about climate change, that will grab the attention of the reader. in terms of trust, it all comes down to in the zist it all comes down to in the 21st century, transparency, is no longer to say that i am a journalist, believe me, iwork for this title, believe me. i am terribly interested when you look on these days, the best people on twitter, they don't expect you to believe them, they say here is my proposition, here is my screenshot, h

totally agree with you there is a major problem for journalism and today because. there is a persecution of john the reason beyond the persecution of journalism those imposition of a xstrata ritual law and beyond this the fact that the u.s. believes itself to be a ball international law just take an exam they're 'd voting for the brocade against cuba against the vast majority of the countries in the u.n. . and there i think that's the there's a climate a war climate that is completely dangerous for freedom of speech and for truth in general. do you do you think this saga is now over or would you expect this case to rumble on for months or maybe years to come. oh it's. a riddle wrapped in a mystery because it's the united states are to turning point in its history. lou could speak about states of late and civil war i don't know how they will react it's true that there will appear. i saw that. as a lawyer for jeweled said the u.s. prosecutors will have indicated that they will appeal the ruling but. i don't know what they are going to to to do with in the future it's

so watch the lansing state journal and we will let you know. host: well, keep us informed. we would like to thank carol thompson the statehouse watchdog reporter for the lansing state announcer: c-span's washington journal every day we take your calls live on the air on the news of the day and discuss policy issues that impact you and coming up sunday morning, the author of american zealots, inside right wing domestic terrorism and university of massachusetts professor arie pelllin gefment. r the evolution of right wing extremism in the united states. the hills national correspondent reed wilson joins us about the state of u.s. politics including president-elect joe biden's inauguration and the upcoming senate impeachment hearings against president trump. watch c-span's washington journal 7:00 eastern sunday morning and be sure to join the discussion, your phone calls, facebook comments, texts and tweets. announcer: wednesday, joe biden will be sworn in as the 46th president of the united states in our nation's capitol. and in light of the attack on the capitol and the temp

good, accurate, fact-based journalism at the root. at internews, we engage in all five approaches, but today, i want to end on the final one because it's the one i love the best and because it has the significant value of rebuilding trust in a republican institution and rebuilding trust in information is hard but not impossible. i want to talk about two really important lessons we've learned on building trust in media are -- first is we need to focus on local. local media in local languages from local trusted voices are the most important place to start. studies show that local media is the most trusted media in the united states and all around the world. you often hear people don't trust the media, but they do trust their media. we need to encourage media as much as possible, our local media partners, to engage with their communities. people trust institutions that speak directly with them, that listen to them. top-down messaging from unfamiliar sources does little to rebuild trust, whether you're trying to push vaccines or cover tra

you think about yellow journalism and the spanish-american war and schools of journalism and ethics in editorial boards and all of that. we need to work through these issues in the way we have done in the past, and i'm confident that with determination, we will. thanks to the mccain institute for the opportunity to speak to you today. enrique: so i would close by saying that how we get from the arab spring to now is by looking for the answers in the technology instead of in society and structures. healthy democracies require healthy and -- capable and empowered systems. a professor at harvard often says that we are each of us individually and all of us elective the bigger than the social and contextual world around us. ideas, technology, institutions, their product of a confirmation hearing from martha fudge--marcia fudge to become the next housing and urban development secretary, and cecilia rouse to be the chairman of the council of economic advisers. on c-span2, another confirmation hearing, as linda thomas-greenfield testifies to become u.s. ambassador to the united nations. on c-s

i am merely making a point about the position that journalism is to have in the future.sition in which i think journalists are essential. i think it is essential to have people in society who can say, "this happened, that didn't happen, this is true, this "isn't true", because in a world of information tales where you have no idea what is true and what isn't true and who you can trust, then societies become unworkable. i'm not blaming the brexit result. that is not the way i would have voted myself, but i am saying that if news organisations want to regain that kind of trust they are probably going to have to think about the environment in which they work on the 21st century, which is very different from the 20th century. yes. you have had a long journalistic career. even longer than mine. do you think there ever was in your lifetime a golden age when the public really did invest huge amounts of trust in journalists? well for a start they didn't have any option. that was one of the things when i began my career where if you owned a printing press or a broadcasting studio

and especially investigative journalism greg i had . but what i mean the put the point that i would make these and this is appointed by my boss trying to form a foreign minister both congress agree. the question of whether or not he's a journalist you know seems is a side issue the real issue is this what the join in the soccer field that's now the subject of charges he revealed war crimes committed by united states military personnel in iraq and you also reveal the activities wolf like to receive u.s. and its allies in afghanistan that's what was released if julian assange had relation with syria which was pro the united states or if it relates to the documents just been released the last 24 hours about the china can i mean strategy that they don't cost $5.00 that we know a problem and so that's what's going to be kept in mind and just cried and a lot of people say this crisis or that framework in iraq to do so. 100 people see the case through that framework but but you know to be fair that lens really prevent the present a very one si

he excelled at everything journalism required. and design and typefaces, he had an airing instinct for a story and he believed in investigative journalism, and he took all that and used it to create the modern sunday times. the embodiment of a humble hack taking on mighty forces with nothing but the truth, harry evans putjournalism itself in a debt to him that will never be serviced. sir harry evans. we owe him so much. the digitalisation notjust of media but of our entire lives will, of course, accelerate in 2021. look out for a new wave of anti—trust measures as regulators everywhere try to break up tech monopolies. the tech cold war splintering the internet further, lots of royals in court, new chairman, maybe a new path for the bbc, and a shake—up of british broadcasting with the arrival of gb news as the battle for our ears, eyes and attention intensifies. whatever you're doing, and however digital your christmas may be, i hope you and yourfamily have a happy and healthy time. thanks for watching. hello. if you're waiting for

going forward on the future of journalism as well you know i spoke to rebecca vincent from reporters without borders and she says that journalists need to be protected. so we're relieved very much and share the court's assessment of his serious mental health risk but we're concerned that the rest of the decision leaves the door open for possible other prosecutions on similar grounds because until that point she came to that point of the decision it seems very much that the case would have. and in favor of the prosecution so without the mental health issues at play somebody else in that same situation could have indeed been extradited to the u.s. to face charges there so this pointed out broader systemic issues that need to be addressed the not the astronaut act must be reformed it locks a public interest offense if any publisher any journalist any source finds himself subject to similar proceedings they cannot adequately defend themselves. so the 3rd it hit today was one thing stone medical grounds of course students on his defense team said that he was totally unfit to travel to the

what really is a stake is all journalism and gnash internationally you know trying to. cover another country's war crimes and corruption. is at stake and and so you know this is something that certainly needs to happen and hopefully you know i've seen i've seen lawmakers in the u.s. on both sides of the aisle who are principled enough to understand what's at stake here i just hope that. the trunk can see that and realize that this is the best the solution he could make in his presidency i take really really good to talk to this afternoon we do have to leave it there but we wish you were the best all the best and certainly fingers crossed for you and that innocent and or his supporters still have to wait to see what happens next i was a clock stokley with leaks and get us thinking. ok what aussies that you could have done of that back at the events that did lead up to songes long fight for free. jr and his son has come a long way from an obscure activist to freedom fighter or traitor depending on who you are squarely one thing you can deny him though is that he led the c

every journalism around the world. because now there's a precedent. in the british judicial system. a judge. has basically supported. their political arguments paul persecuting julian assange so is it is this is a very thorough political case if they're going to try to apply and. this is a political case there 5 julian assange is in prison without serving a sentence shows that he is a political prisoner so we might save julian then he might not spend the rest of his life in prison but the risk. for journalists around the world is they're still there because. if somebody else in the future dares to do what julian did what wiki leaks did to publish the same feelings or similar things they will be persecuted and they can be criminalized for life so today has been a very dramatic day indeed and for the last 2 days have been very dramatic for us the on monday's decision without that it not extradited innocent and then today not to grant him bail is incredibly better streets and we've seen activists and supporters not just hits a day or 2 days ago but long throughout you know scientists a

and it does make me wonder under local journalism and regional journalism, what are we losing? what person do we not know enough now that would be important in the future? >> but it's interesting obviously as a celebrity for a long time but journalism for a long time so your local reporters know what's up and who is a scoundrel. you are the people that i read? and i'm uncovering the news around me. >> absolutely. thinking of those footnotes google docs just introduced a citation feature. where we last year? because we went to the same college we didn't know each other than ever that we had that same connection but i have a computer but the books use to write this paper here is my endnotes sheet and enjoy. this is like i was in minority. >> and then to talk about what's in the book. [laughter] so we wrote some of the time out and that we keep going back to this. >> i had a lot of favorite parts per one i will say that i love the chapter the making of maxine talking about her growing up especially with her relationship with her mother with the war about bloodshed and the big pict

she said terry leaving all of my journals.have to promise me one lot look at them until after i am gone. later she passed, a month later i thought now i will finally know what my mother was thinkin thinking. and they were exactly where she said they were. and as you said, three shelves, each journal beautifully place would open the first one blank, second one blank, third, fourth, fifth, shift, shelf after shelf. all my mother's journals were empty. it was a second death. and they think it took me 20 years to be able to really go into that gesture to find out what was she saying? >> what was adjuster exactly? was she saying i have a lot to say and i don't have time to say it i couldn't set? or you got a few of my journals? >> the truth is they really don't know. i mean the obvious one was i could take them, fill them, right in them. i think it was deeper than that. and she was a contrarian in her own way. more of a women are expected to do three things, get married, have children, make a journal. my mother got married, she had

journal. the speech is limited until point where you incite or cause people to commit crimes. have the president of the united states of america that incites people to go to the capital. .hose people had bombs those people had zip ties. they were going to arrest people. they went in there to do bodily harm. they killed one of the capitol police. they murdered him. what organization can you tell me where someone can do what he did and people will still give him all the keys to come in and do whatever he wants to do? he should have been gone on the seventh of january. host: in florida this morning. 10 minutes left in this segment of washington journal. do you think president trump should be removed from office? trump's staunchest defenders headed to the morning shows yesterday including jim jordan. he was on fox's sunday morning futures. >> what happened wednesday is a tragedy. it is as wrong as wrong could be but i hope the democrats do not go down this road. we do not know if they are going to

i don't know that the journalism can pin really change that i do hope. that journalism will still provide people and way to understand what's happening around the. moving on to russia now where opposition figure alexy volley is back in prison but it's still managing to make news 2 days after he was jailed a documentary appeared online posted there by the volcanoes team the documentary very critical of president vladimir putin's johannah who's been looking into this story for us joe what did the film focus on well the documentary claims to offer an in-depth analysis of put into wealth focusing on what it calls put into palace on the black sea now this is a huge a state that nirvana claims is actually owned by put in but was paid for with illicit money by members of his inner circle move by which more sway me goes only it would be. so you could also ask for so you've got a sherman was moments not only says that the idea for this corruption investigation actually came to him whilst he was being treated in germany after he was poisoned in august last year an

these are the pillars of investigative journalism, of national security journalism in particular.nd those things are the target of the indictment. jen robinson, re-able to see him belmarsh? we have not been able to >> >> see him since the beginning of the year comes as the covid restrictions were implemented. i thk it is important to talk about the present conditions he is facing in the united kingdom so far. not able to visit him in prison since march. he has not been able to have social visits. it has been vocal to prepare our case. the isolation he has suffered already because of the is and conditions in the u.k. and the covid pandemic, there has been an outbreak of covidn his prison block in recent weeks. he has effectively been 24/7 in his cell and even allowedo leave to wash. we are very concerned about what would happen to him given his ongoing medical condition as a result of the many years in nfinement. the complications he would suffer. amy: jen, when joe biden was the u.s. vice president, he likened wikileaks founder julian assange to high-tech terrorist. that was the s

today, we posed some questions facing journalism and a post-trump era.e relationship with the press is a complete understatement. the media was vilified under trop, stamped as enemies of the people. even the most fact-based reporting was labeled fake news in a world with alternative facts. where their lessons learned by the media in covering trop? jay rosen teaches journalism at new york university. it is great to see you. thanks for talking with me. what lessons do you think journalists have learned over the last four and a half years? jay rosen: i think they learned there are limits, and that they're going to have to start saying this is a lie. i think they also learned right at the end, maybe when it was too late, that they're going to have to stick up for democracy. and i think they eventually did that, meaning after trump tried to claim that he had actually won, even though everybody knew he hadn't, that's when it finally kicked in. i think, for a lot of journalists, that they could lose the entire thing, and they became very pro-democracy. but i th

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