but i want to thank everyone here at nih for all you do. as you said. so growing up, my mother, our mother would go -- we always knew that mommy was going to this place called bethesda. mommy is going to bethesda. now we're living in california. my mother would go to bethesda. she was coming here to nih. and she was in the biochemical endocrinology study section. she was a peer reviewer. and my mother had two goals in her life, to raise her two daughters and end breast cancer. in fact, little-known fact, my first job was cleaning in my mother's lab. she would take us there with her after school and on weekends and i grew up then around science in a way that was taught to me by someone who so profoundly passionate about a gift, which is the gift that scientists give to us in that their whole reason for being is to see what can be unburdened by what has been. their whole reason for being is to pursue what is possible for the sake of improving human life and condition. it is such a noble pursuit. and the importance of nih is that this is about an essential

and that's not all that nih has been engaged in.ly involved in developing and testing therapeutics and we have made considerable progress with diagnostics and new technologies to make it possible to have home testing for this particular virus which would be a great opportunity, especially if we're trying to get kids back to school which is a big priority. so we're really glad you're here. i i want to recognize dr. tony fauci over in the corner. amazing spokesperson and amazing scientist, probably the best known infectious disease doctor in the world and a great privilege to have him in this organization and he and i are spending a lot of time talking to each other over the last 13 months. so we're really glad that we can be the one to actually host you here for your second dose. first dose, i saw was in southeast dc, december 29th. so count out the numbers and the days here right at day 28. we do believe that's important and honored that you decided to come and visit with us. so welcome and please, if you would say a few words, ther

with francis the director of nih and ha secretary alex lazar. now i want to close by making one comments. we want you all to get vaccinated. for your own protection, for that of your family, and for your community. however, we must remember that this is not a substitute of horse until we get the overwhelming majority of the population in this country. and i would say 70 to 85%, to get good herd immunity, this there will still be danger lurking in the community about transmitting viruses. and for that reason we need to continue to adhere to public health measures until we get this outbreak completely crushed. which i believe, is entirely feasible in the context of 2021. likely towards the end of the year, but i believe strongly that we can do it. and finally, for those wanting more information about the vaccine and about how you might actually volunteer for other vaccine trials, you can go to this link coronavirus prevention network .-dot work. but if you want to find out about the vaccine that's available easy to do, just go to the cdc website,

anthony fauci more than 30 years, infection disease doctor, at the nih. you know how much american people have faith in you and have trusted you. i want to tell you that i have -- not only have faith and trust in you. i have faith in the career scientists throughout the nih and cdc and other god standards across country. and freaked out how the cdc in particular got pushed around, not just behind-the-scenes pressure it affected their recommendations. we know they're under review now that president biden is there. i feel it never should have happened, and hoping the next president doesn't do something like that. can you help us understand how that happened seemingly so easily? >> yeah. i mean, it's such an unusual abherrability situation, rachel. i don't take any pleasure in disciting an administration and the people around the president, but we had a situation where science was rejected. a lot of pressure was put on individuals and organizations to do things that were not directly related to what their best opinion would be, vis-a-vis the science. i had p

it just so happened that the moderna was one shipped to the nih where as you know i work. so i got the moderna one. if the pfizer one had been shipped it would haven't were exactly the same. i would have said no difference whatsoever. so whatever your mother and your friends got, i believe it would make no difference if they got moderna on pfizer. >> how close are we to the approval of any of the one-dose vaccines, and mathematically obviously that's going to make a difference in terms of the size of the pipeline, in terms of getting vaccine out to the community. how close are we to those? >> real close, rachel. i would think that no more than two weeks from now. the data will be analyzed in a similar fashion. the way we analyzed it with the moderna and the pfizer candidate. that is an independent data and monitoring board. look at the data, determine if it's ready to be given to the public, to the company to go to the fda and ask to see if they could get an emergency use authorization. you know, i don't want to get ahead of them, but i have to tell you, i would be surpris

a former employee of nih said that a bullet was released accidentally from a fort dietrich lab.apparently it is made from she has but it's amazing to see people in these big spacesuits. they are working with the deadliest diseases in the world. i think it was in the 1990's, when someone working on this pricked herself. she was treated at what they call the brigs, the big research center. fortunately she recovered. i have to say an accidental needle pricked is not unheard of. -- needle prick is not unheard of. but a bullet transmission itself, and modern history in 1976 in a small town along the ebola river, in what is now the democratic republic of the congo. we used to get viruses names of places where they were discovered. so lyme as a town in connecticut. and marburg, it's a hemorrhagic fever, some factory workers in germany got that in the 1970's. that is how we name these vaccines. host: politico has a story this morning, "the crash landing of project warp speed." the distribution problem smart is success. what kinds of problems does the biden administration have to get rig

finally, we have crossed agency collaboration with cdc, nih, dod. so when we get these trains we can do the science and understand the impact of the variants on our vaccines and on therapeutics. dr. fauci: let me add one more comment. if we come as a country, want to turbocharge our effort at sequencing, which i believe should be shared -- a shared bipartisan perspective, we can do that. what we need is the congress to quickly pass the american rescue plan, which contains the resources necessary to get all of our very, very talented people around the country, who are world experts in sequencing, to get on this as quickly as possible. so i could not urge people to, for people in congress to be more and more focused on the american rescue plan that i can, given the state of the variants. cdc dir. dr. walensky: if i can make one more point, by the time someone has symptoms, gets a test, has a positive result and we get the sequence, our opportunity for doing real case-control and contact tracing, is largely gone. so i believe we should be treating ever

the rest of us who work at nih, we are civil servants funded by your. >> one of the things i showed our cures earlier was a statistic showing that suicide rates have been climbing over the last two decades. why? >> really good question. i was reading the answer to really like most things in open, they are probably many reasons. amongst them include the rising rates of uncertainty, challenges with economics. and lifestyles, disconnectedness, increasing of substance use etc. but all of these factors combined together and no one factor can explain the increase so we are really we really don't know why those rates have been increasing consistently for the past few decades. i do want to point out that there's a glimmer of hope at the end of that seemingly in a miserable rise. from 2018 to 2019 suicide rates went down ever so slightly from 14.2 to 13.9 per hundred thousand. what that means though is about 100 lives saved comparing 2019 2018 we think the reason why we made and i emphasize may seem at least a decrease in increase, hopefully a turnaround is increased awareness around mental heal

i think to make a broader point, the team work between everybody here, between the nih, the cdc, the fda and then our ability to understand what those factors are and turn it into actual actionable plans with the manufacturers is really important. i have been impressed at least so far with that. >> great. we will send our last question to yanish at pbs. >> you cut off. >> hi. thanks so much for taking my question. can you hear me? >> yes, i can. >> i have two questions. the first is, it sounded like you were saying we are vaccinating about a million people daily. i wonder if you can talk about what the goal would be, the average goal would be and how quickly we ramp up to that average, what would be a better average? then i have a second question after that. >> well, our seven-day average is 1.2 million per day. as i said, we view where we are today as a floor, not a ceiling. what we have tasked our team with as many vaccines as possible into as many arms as possible. there are two constraints right now. the first is just continuing week after week to press to increase production and

and then finally we have the cross agency collaborations with cdc and nih, arda, and dod, when we get the strains we could do the science and understand the impact of these variants on our vaccines as well as on our therapeutics. >> let me add one more comment. look, if we as a country want to turbo charge our efforts at sequencing, which i believe should be a shared bipartisan perspective, we could do that. and what we need is the congress to quickly pass the american rescue plan which contains the resources necessary to get all of our very, very talented people around the country who are world experts at sequencing to get on this as quickly as possible. so i couldn't urge people to -- people and the congress to be more and more focused on american rescue plan that i can given the state of the variants. >> if i could make one more point and that is that by the time someone has symptoms and gets a test and has a positive result and we get the sequence, our opportunity for doing more case control and contact tracing is largely gone. and so i think -- and i believe, that we should be tr

he's not joining private equity he's doing much more important things at nih thank you for being here. >> good to be with you. my pleasure. >> it was reported he went to the north pole to vaccinate santaae claus. number wanted to get the vaccine because he was over the age of 70, or because he was any central healthcare worker? what qualification did he have? >> it is both. wanted to make sure we did it correctly and nobody got offended he had both categories. >> did he have any side boeffects? >> is on was a little sore for good.rs that it was >> you are vaccinated recently did you have any side effects? >> no. it was benign. as with most vaccinations, you can get a little bit of anch egg in your arm. mr. theater ten hours after the vaccination and last no more than 2436 hours i didn't get any fever or chills or muscle aches it was a benign experience. >> have you found there has been side effects from others there was a report in alaska someone who had severe side effects. is that because it was not properly refrigeratedn'? >> no no. not at all there were reports with four or 5 mill

and the director of nih. in the secretary alex . and i want to close by making one comment . we want to all to get vaccinated. for your own protection and your families and for your community. however, i must remember that this is not a substitute because until we get the overwhelming majority of the population in this country. and i would say 70 - 85 percent, to get good herd immunity, there's a will be the dangers lurking in the community about transmitting viruses. we need to continue to adhere to public health measures until we get this outbreak completely crushed . which i believe is entirely feasible in the context of 2021 . likely towards the end of the year. i believe strongly we can do it free to finally for those of you want more information about the vaccine now you might might volunteer for other vaccine trials, you can go to this link, coronavirus coming mentioned that dot org it . if you want to find out about the vaccine that is available, and easy to do just go to the cdc website, cdc .gov. so i will stop there be very happy to answer questions. >> thank you d

so terrifying that after we reached out to nih this paper was materially taken off-line on friday forle. but we downloaded it weeks ago. here's the details. were putting the scientific language on screen now, this is what it means in plain english they collected samples of bat feces from a cave in province china they found many novel coronavirus is in the feces, the analyzed their genetic information, they then built genetically engineered new viruses. man made in the lab. they infected human cells with them in the lab. and then they then showed that their man-made viruses could replicate as a functional virus. here is the most important part, the genetic changes they made in the lab unlocked a highly specific doorway into the human body. the virus that causes covid-19 uses that same exact doorway. to be clear, none of the genetically engineered viruses created in 2017 and reported in this paper were the exact ones were dealing with now but what they confirm as it was possible to make the covid-19 virus using the technique developed in the dr. fauci project. and that project continued

to be able to do it or do you think you have to go back and tap the public market for more money >> nihworking with us and running the phase one study and they will start shortly and the real expense is manufacturing scale up if we need the product such as the one we're developing at scale, that's the real expense the good news ispoe ponents areo those being developed by others and we can see that that can be scaled up very effectively by a lot of manufacturers out there around the world and that's been supported by federal dollars and so our hope would be that if indeed that kind of scaleup becomes necessary, we would have federal help in paying for that. >> we need you and we need what you're doing and we tahank you for what you're doing. dr. allen, nice to meet you, sir. >> thanks so much. >>> wow. i ha hf tvealofhe mo dern that. i wanted to go full. hey, our worker's comp insurance is expiring. should i just renew it? yeah, sure. hey there, small business owner. pie insurance here with some sweet advice to stop you from overpaying on worker's comp. try pie instead and save

he's doing much more important things at nih. thank you very much for being here today. dr. fauci: my pleasure, good to be with you, david. david: tony, it was reported that he went to the north pole to vaccinate santa claus and my question is one that did he get that vaccine because he was over the age of let's say 70 or because he was an essential healthcare worker? what qualifications did he have to get the vaccine? dr. fauci: it was both, david. i wanted to make sure we did it quickly and no one offended so we had both categories. both. david: did he have any side effects? dr. fauci: his arm hurts a little bit for 24 hours and then after that it was good. david: okay, so now you are vaccinated recently and did you have any side effects? dr. fauci: no, we were relatively benign. as with most vaccinations you can get a little bit of an ache in your arm as it starts about eight or ten hours after the vaccination and it lasts no more than 24-36 hours and i did not get any fever or chills or muscle aches. so it's a pretty benign experience. david: have you found that there ha

fauci and staff at the nih to develop the vaccine and efforts to keep americans safe.ill make the case that congress needs to immediately pass the american rescue plan which includes $20 billion to invest in local community vaccine this tradition centers in the hardest hit areas. her remarks and the vaccination at nih will be live streamed on the white house youtube channel. jonathan, kick us off. >> the response to the pandemic, two matters. provide more detail as to how much more of the vaccine is going to be distributed and how quickly to the states where governors have sounded the alarm that they are desperate for what they need. can you talk about the cdc considered, the white house support. all passengers on u.s. domestic flight. >> secretary psaki: the first part of the effort is to ensure we are more effectively and efficiently working with governors and local officials who have expressed some frustration in recent weeks about the lack of information and the lack of a federal plan. we have only been here six days but we want to take step as quickly as possible

of antibody as an example in the clinical outcome, we expect working closely with the companies and nih for that work to occur over the next week to several months, once that occurs clinical trials could be modified or new clinical trials could be started to look at the relationship with anyone vaccine we call them bridging studies and they don't need to be the large clinical trials they can be smaller clinical trials that relate in antibody level to the clinical outcome of prevention of severe and mild disease. we are hoping to do that relatively soon but we absolutely need the data, if you can imagine if we were to just make the assumption that a certain antibody level was related to protection it was not and you did not have a great protection that we see with moderna and pfizer biontech vaccines we could be getting a false impression to americans about the protection levels of their seen with the vaccines we must absolutely have the data. >> thank you very much, by the way a couple of spots that have opened up in the queue, if you want to get in now is your chance to get in the queu

with the conversation around the moderna vaccine we also want to see data with the company and the nih on that it. when the data is available we will look forward to evaluating those in having a discussion about those using a rigorous scientific process. with respect to vaccination at this point i've been working with the white house task force and their two issues butki one s certainly supply but the bigger issue now is the administration on the ground and as you know from press reports a number of the states have 30 to 35% of the vaccine. we are encouraging those states to broaden criteria for the administrations over example some of the states one of them is used in age-based approach where they are back standing the folks over the age of a 65 to increase the elucidation of those vaccines. we would encourage the states to continue to do that in the horse bullying the guidance for 1a, 1b and once you met but that will go a long ways towards using the vaccine approach really and getting them into the arms of individuals. we are working very closely with the suppliers of the vaccine to

so we expect working closely with the companies and nih for that work to occur over the next week to several months and then once that occurs, clinical trials could be modified or new clinical trials could be started to look at the relationship with any one vaccine. we call them bridging studies and they don't need to be these large clinical trials, they can be smaller clinical trials that relate an antibody level to this clinical prevention of both severe and mild disease. so, we're hoping to do that relatively soon, but we absolutely need the data. as you can imagine, if we were to just make the assumption that a certain antibody level was related to protection and it wasn't, and you did not have the great protection we see with the moderna and the pfizer bion tech vaccines we could ha have-- we absolutely must have the data. thank you very much, sara. a couple of spots just opened up in the queue so if you wanted to get in, now is your chance to get in the queue. as we turn now to a question from stephanie. >> stephanie epps from abc news. i wanted to ask a question about looking

fauci an the staff of the nih for their work to develop the vaccine and efforts to keep americans safee will also make the case that congress needs to immediately pass the american rescue plan which includes $20 billion to invest in local community vaccine distribution centers in the hardest hit areas. her remarks in the vaccination at nih will be livestreamed on the white house youtube channels, so you can all tune in for that. jonathan, kick us off. >> reporter: first on the response to the pandemic, two matters there. first, could you provide a little more detail as to how much more of the vaccine is going to be distributed and how quickly to these states? we have heard the governor sound the alarm that they're desperately low on what they need. and has cdc considered a manner of testing of passengers for all u.s. domestic flights? >> jonathan, the first part of our effort is certainly to ensure we are more effectively and efficiently working with governors and local officials who have expressed some frustration in recent weeks about the lack of information and the lack of a federal

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so there is a public data base that is run by nih that is called jam bank where all of the sequences are -- anyone could have a popular sequence so they were deposited and within hours we have ten customers who wanted to build snippets to start making vaccines and making diagnostics and therapeutics within hours. >> is it more difficult to build one thing over another? or is it just putting the right combinations of proteins together? >> so, it is very different effort. so diagnostics you want to replicate what you have so you could see if the patient has that or not. and for the vaccine, when you build a vaccine, it has to illicit the immune system and you have to make sure that it expressed well and all of those sort of things. so the synthesis part is one thing but then do you the research to figure out this is the right -- the thousand ways to make a vaccine which is right and which is wrong and same thing with therapeutics you don't go down paths of classic research. >> sure. now your company is part of a relatively new industry and i way trying to figure out what they call it a

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asked about the vaccines themselves in these vaccines, the mrna technique the moderna and pfizer and nih vaccines are using is the coolest technologies. it will revolutionize how we protect ourselves, not just from covid, but a lot of other diseases, too. you see -- >> especially given the very important, very busy guests we have of. please welcome back vice president pence and second lady pence. the less time they were here was in august, quite a bit of different weather. thanks for making the trip. we also welcome congresswoman -- and unwavering champion of voters. thank you for defending the proposed division. and thank you for everyone standing out there. in 1984, the chief of staff provided a vision for a new concept of modern warfare. in 1985, that modern division became this division. they looked to harness this rigorous strain of physical and mental toughness, also grounded byseptember 11, 2001, proved we needed highly trained deployable forces. the 10th mountain division became the first conventional forces in afghanistan. that white paper describes who we are today, giving the

out to the population for the globe that is more excessive will is is very important palestine the nih the vaccine by israel has become the 1st in the middle east to greenlight sputnik the main thrust of the uniqueness of the worse in that it's using a is. this it's a let the sin and universe has been used in both those as it is different in order to reduce the immune response to. the other the. worse or because of that they believe because it is a good chance to know that the difference is in the next in india the russian shot has just passed phase 2 trials without a hitch with only phase 3 to go well ready deals have been signed to produce 300000000 duces of sputnik in india the phase 2 study in india showed a very good safety profile we are working closely towards fast tracking the launch of the sputnik the vaccine in india all in all few nations are putting all their money on anyone who saw that see anything could happen from supply shortages to unforeseen side effects like the pfizer vaccines allergic reactions which is why would make sense to make sure that you've got different j

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it was the moderna vaccine and it was developed with nih, the national institutes of health, by a team that was co-led by a 34-year-old black woman by the name of dr. corbett. i have a message for all the little girls and boys out there who dream of growing up to be a superhero. superheroes are just about our imagination, they are walking among us. they are teachers and doctors and scientists. they are vaccine researchers like dr. corbett. you can grow up to be like them ,, too, so let's dream big and see each one of ourselves as superheroes of tomorrow. the beauty of science is that it is about the pursuit. what we can do to improve the human condition, what we can do to lift people up to see what can be, unburdened by what has been. to our young leaders, see yourself that way. pursue your dreams, not only for your sake, but for hours because our country needs you. again, mr. president-elect, thank you so much. mr. biden: i'm not supposed to speak again, i want to say one thing. come here, don't go away. you can tell this is real. we are really excited about this. because i think ther

and the what is is is that if there are species that thrive under positive conditions the nih vanish and are replaced by others of those. fundraising installed a camera to monitor the penguins all year long the images track the birds and their offspring as they gradually flee the onset of colder temperatures. we see siegel's fly by. the drifting icebergs. the arrival of storms that bury the camera in snow and then blow it free again. in the long lonesome winter. the formation of sea ice. sunsets that no one else sees. in october the penguins return soon they begin to lay their eggs. and a few weeks later chicks are born. to . one of the spanish media tasks is to map the undersea topography of around these islands. drive a deeper. 08 seats. in 4th and that's because the antarctic coast is so immense less than one percent of the area underwater has been properly going to tell us yeah i go there to for example you have to change your ships because of an iceberg you can be dangerous to leave the zones for which they are accurate data. so we need to produce more maps to prevent shipwrecks

of nih tested positive for the coronavirus that's almost a quarter of the world's total cases in the u.s. government missed its 2020 facts a nation targets it has hopes to administer 20000000 doses spy the end of december but manage fewer than 3000000. iraqi explosives experts are trying to defuse a naval mine found attached to an oil tanker in the gulf on thursday the vessel was refueling another ship in international waters near the iraqi port of basra. there's been a steady trickle of trades and passenger traffic over the english channel after the seismic shift in relations between britain and the e u u case completed its separation from the bloc the ethiopian human rights commission says security forces killed more than $75.00 people during ethnic unrest in june and july last year the group has released a report detailing the violence which happened after the killing of popular singer who in their son well those are the headlines to stay with us here on al-jazeera inside stories up next. open for business one of the world's biggest free trade zones is now come into effect in afri

been the correct assumption that, you know, all of the credit that we need to give to the cdc, the nih, and the fda for getting these manufactured and approved, but that is where the effort stops. that's not just in their words from this afternoon. it is about the distribution and not all of those fazes were thought about and planned for prior to this administration ending. phil, we kept hearing a defensive tone about what they had been doing behind the scenes. is this just politics at play here? what can you tell us about what you knew about what was going on behind the scenes during the trump term? >> you know, katy, what i'm hearing, what the -- the tone and you eluded to it directly was always this, you know, it's going to be okay. we have enough. americans will be able to roll up their sleeves and everything, and the american people were really mislead to put it mildly. it doesn't help governors and it doesn't help hospital administrators. i can speak from our own experience how frustrating and how challenging it is to not know when the next doses are available. that needs to stop

now reportedly direct ties to the wuhan institute of virology and nih now admits he made that statementect chinese scientists from online harassment. joining me now is dr. scott atlas, former white house covid advisor, senior institute fellow, dr. atlas, each step of the way the scientific establishment, at least that based in washington and many academic circles have too often failed us. >> hey, laura, thank you for having me. i think it is another example how the information really was never transparent. you know, for a variety of reasons come up they're covered up by china were covered up by people here for simply, you know, not aggressively pursued by the press or anyone else who should have known better. we have had incomplete information, the story from the beginning that this virus was from a market. you know, we don't know, but it seems a little bit unlikely given the high level of coincidence, if nothing else that the main viral laboratory of china is right there working on these viruses. so we've never had the complete story, and it doesn't surprise me there were ulterior moti