thank you, vice chair stefani. >> thank you. i know chair mar has questions. i'm quite baffled that you said 12-step programs are not treatment. i don't understand why psychologists, psychiatrists recommend people go to a.a. or n.a. for treatment for alcoholism. i don't understand how that can be said. and also, this discussion around maybe programs dropping people of 12-step programs and maybe a particular program might have those rules in place, but anyone in recovery knows that relapse is a part of recovery. and in 12-step programs, you're never shunned away for relapsing. everyone knows that that is something that happens with alcoholism, addiction. if you relapse and you're in one of the 12-step programs, you will be welcomed back. you will be welcomed back with open arms. there's no dropping anybody. and i just want to make that very clear. and i also want to make very clear that there's a lot of recent studies out on 12-step programs. in the "new york times" in march of 2020, basically saying it's the closest thing in public health we have to a free lun

thank you, vice chair stefani. >> thank you. i know chair mar has questions. i'm quite baffled that you said 12-step programs are not treatment. i don't understand why psychologists, psychiatrists recommend people go to a.a. or n.a. for treatment for alcoholism. i don't understand how that can be said. and also, this discussion around maybe programs dropping people of 12-step programs and maybe a particular program might have those rules in place, but anyone in recovery knows that relapse is a part of recovery. and in 12-step programs, you're never shunned away for relapsing. everyone knows that that is something that happens with alcoholism, addiction. if you relapse and you're in one of the 12-step programs, you will be welcomed back. you will be welcomed back with open arms. there's no dropping anybody. and i just want to make that very clear. and i also want to make very clear that there's a lot of recent studies out on 12-step programs. in the "new york times" in march of 2020, basically saying it's the closest thing in public health we have to a free lun

thank you, vice chair stefani. >> thank you. i know chair mar has questions. i'm quite baffled that you said 12-step programs are not treatment. i don't understand why psychologists, psychiatrists recommend people go to a.a. or n.a. for treatment for alcoholism. i don't understand how that can be said. and also, this discussion around maybe programs dropping people of 12-step programs and maybe a particular program might have those rules in place, but anyone in recovery knows that relapse is a part of recovery. and in 12-step programs, you're never shunned away for relapsing. everyone knows that that is something that happens with alcoholism, addiction. if you relapse and you're in one of the 12-step programs, you will be welcomed back. you will be welcomed back with open arms. there's no dropping anybody. and i just want to make that very clear. and i also want to make very clear that there's a lot of recent studies out on 12-step programs. in the "new york times" in march of 2020, basically saying it's the closest thing in public health we have to a free lun

vice chair stefani? >> aye. >> clerk: member haney? >> aye. >> clerk: chair mar? >> aye. >> clerk: mr. chair, there are three ayes, and the resolution will be recommended. >> chairman: thank you. can you please call item two, mr. clerk? >> clerk: agenda number two is a hearing to consider that the transfer of a type 21 off-sale general beer and wine and sale incorporated during mainland market produce located at 5601 geary will serve the public convenience and necessity of the city and county. members who wish to comment on this item should call 415-655-0001 and enter the meeting i.d. 1872315964, then press ## and then *3. just a word, mr. chair, we once again have joe salmonson on the line. i do not see that the applicant has connected to the meeting. he has accepted the invite and they be calling in. i will let you know if anything changes. >> chairman: great. thank you, mr. clerk. officer, can you please share your findings from the a.l.u.? >> okay. the cause ink has applied for a type 21license, which will allow them to operate an off-sale general premise. i h

vice chair stefani? >> aye. >> clerk: member haney? >> aye. >> clerk: chair mar? >> aye. >> clerk: mr. chair, there are three ayes, and the resolution will be recommended. >> chairman: thank you. can you please call item two, mr. clerk? >> clerk: agenda number two is a hearing to consider that the transfer of a type 21 off-sale general beer and wine and sale incorporated during mainland market produce located at 5601 geary will serve the public convenience and necessity of the city and county. members who wish to comment on this item should call 415-655-0001 and enter the meeting i.d. 1872315964, then press ## and then *3. just a word, mr. chair, we once again have joe salmonson on the line. i do not see that the applicant has connected to the meeting. he has accepted the invite and they be calling in. i will let you know if anything changes. >> chairman: great. thank you, mr. clerk. officer, can you please share your findings from the a.l.u.? >> okay. the cause ink has applied for a type 21license, which will allow them to operate an off-sale general premise. i h

vice chair stefani, the floor is yours. >> supervisor stefani: thank you, chair mar. i want to thank you for scheduling the hearing on this important subject so quickly. we'll hear from the recovery summit working group established by the working council, comosed of individuals who have recovered from addiction. over 300 peers have been through the system and here to share their experience and insight. these individuals come from every walk of life in san francisco. they represent all age groups, all races, and all gender identities. 2/3 of people of color. and all of them have firsthand experience with drug use, addiction, and treatment. i called today's hearing, because these are the people we need to hear from directly. i think everyone needs to mute themselves because i'm hearing feedback. can everyone mute themselves. again, i called today's hearing because these are the people we need to hear from directly. this conversation could not be more urgent or necessary. the drug overdose crisis in our city has reached an unprecedented level. 699 people died from drug o

vice chair stefani, the floor is yours. >> supervisor stefani: thank you, chair mar. i want to thank you for scheduling the hearing on this important subject so quickly. we'll hear from the recovery summit working group established by the working council, comosed of individuals who have recovered from addiction. over 300 peers have been through the system and here to share their experience and insight. these individuals come from every walk of life in san francisco. they represent all age groups, all races, and all gender identities. 2/3 of people of color. and all of them have firsthand experience with drug use, addiction, and treatment. i called today's hearing, because these are the people we need to hear from directly. i think everyone needs to mute themselves because i'm hearing feedback. can everyone mute themselves. again, i called today's hearing because these are the people we need to hear from directly. this conversation could not be more urgent or necessary. the drug overdose crisis in our city has reached an unprecedented level. 699 people died from drug o

supervisor stefani, thank you for calling this hearing. chair mar, appreciate your time. supervisor haney and mandelman, john, for coordinating all this stuff. and supervisor stefani, to your staff, especially andy. we are incredibly grateful for your work and your commitment to people in recovery. and dr. martin, it's great to have you on board. and it's great to have you as part of this conversation. i know that you've been really committed to the street-level drug dealing task force. i know tom speaks highly of you. i think while some of our values may be different, i think our overarching goals are in the continuum where they fit together. we really would like to continue this conversation. we need to find a way to get people off of drugs. that should be the goal. we're commit today doing whatever is necessary. whatever the board would like, we're here. please let us know. supervisor stefani, thank you again. this was an amazing hearing. >> i'd like to say i appreciate what everybody said. and i was listening. and i am a director. so hopefully, we'll continue to have t

chair of this committee. i'm joined by catherine stefani and matt haney. thank you to john carroll mr. clerk, do you have any announcements. >> clerk: thank you, mr. chair. in order to protect the public, board members and city employees during the covid-19 emergency, the legislative chamber and committee room are closed. committee members will attend this meeting through video conference and participate asif

i'm supervisor gordon mar, the chair and i'm joined by catherine stefani. and matt haney.e joined by councilman mandelman. i'd like to thank sfgov

stefani. you had amendments and closing remarks to make before we move this forward. >> thank you, chair haney. i will be brief. i want to thank everybody who called in towed. i hear you. i absolutely agree that this should be a beginning. there is so much more to do. the last caller looks forward to the day when it is easier for small businesses to operate in the city. i look forward to that day as well and will do everything to work towards that goal with you at our side helping us do that. finally, i want to thank chair haney for his cosponsorship and my early cosponsors ronan and mandelman. thank you to the members of this committee, supervisor s afai and marfor your support today. i want to thank my office, legislative aid has worked so hard on this legislation. we couldn't do this without him. with that, chair haney, i would ask one of your committee members to move my amendment and pass out to the full board with as age of recommendation. >> so moved. >> we have your amendment is moved. could we please take a roll call vote on the amendment? >> on the motion, vice chair safai. >> aye. >

i will add supervisor stefani fee waiver legislation was cosponsored by supervisor haney, chair of budget committee. at one point i was worried about the fee waiver. i am feeling more optimistic now. that is one worth keeping an eye on. it involves giving businesses shut down refunds for fees they have already paid, which i am sure would be welcome. that is a good one. okay. next item, please. >> item 12. commissioner discussion and new business. discussion item. >> i have given my report. i am not going to take up any more time. anybody else here? commissioner zouzounis. >> i want to follow up on a couple items mentioned in the report. local sba office of san francisco is giving presentations to anybody who wants a presentation. any trade association, merchant group, neighborhood association that wants a presentation reach out to their office or to me to schedule a presentation on ppp or whatever you want related to the federal funding. in terms of the error codes you may be getting, our office may be getting calls about related to ppp second or first draw loans, that is an it issue. i c

>> supervisor stefani: , i do, and through the chair. i have a question about your safety rating. what happens when a client violates the terms of pre-trial? >> well, i mean, if they're arrested they go back through that process. so if they violate the terms of pre-trial we update the judges through a progress report. like i said, if there's something that there's a safety risk we doll an interim progress report and let the judges know. and also if someone falls out of compliance, for example, we'll use that there are 12 anger management sessions and someone doesn't attend one of those sessions, they will have to report back to us. and our staff are working with them to get them back on track and into those sessions. so a lot is one-on-one work with the client to make sure they stay compliant because that's our role in the process. does that answer your question? >> supervisor stefani: yes, it does. thank you. and i think that it was 5.5, you showed us a graph of the quarterly average safety ratings for clients in the program. and i'm wondering if you could describe for us how tha

>> supervisor stefani: , i do, and through the chair. i have a question about your safety rating. what happens when a client violates the terms of pre-trial? >> well, i mean, if they're arrested they go back through that process. so if they violate the terms of pre-trial we update the judges through a progress report. like i said, if there's something that there's a safety risk we doll an interim progress report and let the judges know. and also if someone falls out of compliance, for example, we'll use that there are 12 anger management sessions and someone doesn't attend one of those sessions, they will have to report back to us. and our staff are working with them to get them back on track and into those sessions. so a lot is one-on-one work with the client to make sure they stay compliant because that's our role in the process. does that answer your question? >> supervisor stefani: yes, it does. thank you. and i think that it was 5.5, you showed us a graph of the quarterly average safety ratings for clients in the program. and i'm wondering if you could describe for us how tha

i will add supervisor stefani fee waiver legislation was cosponsored by supervisor haney, chair of budget committee. at one point i was worried about the fee waiver. i am feeling more optimistic now. that is one worth keeping an eye on. it involves giving businesses shut down refunds for fees they have already paid, which i am sure would be welcome. that is a good one. okay. next item, please. >> item 12. commissioner discussion and new business. discussion item. >> i have given my report. i am not going to take up any more time. anybody else here? commissioner zouzounis. >> i want to follow up on a couple items mentioned in the report. local sba office of san francisco is giving presentations to anybody who wants a presentation. any trade association, merchant group, neighborhood association that wants a presentation reach out to their office or to me to schedule a presentation on ppp or whatever you want related to the federal funding. in terms of the error codes you may be getting, our office may be getting calls about related to ppp second or first draw loans, that is an it issue. i c

stefani. >> aye. >> commissioner walton. >> aye. >> you have 11 ayes. the motion passes on its first reading. >> director chang, are you here? >> yes, chair. >> we have a number of items still on our agenda today. i would like to try to get my colleagues out of this meeting by 1:00 so there is an hour between the two meetings. what is your recommendation for how we proceed? >> great. may i suggest we take item 8. that does set up the context for the legislative session to come and we can perhaps defer 7, 9, 10 to the next meeting or call of chair. >> to defer 7, 9, 10 does require or does not require a motion to continue? >> it does not require a motion. it is at your call. >> we do not need public comment if i defer them? >> we should probably take public comment. i will defer to the attorney to confirm that. >> this is the deputy director we do not need public comment if we tip the items. >> do you have any preference about when i move these at the call of the chair or moved to the next meeting, director chang? >> to the next meeting. >> great. then we will take up item, 7, 9, 10 at next meeting. please call item 8. >> approve the 2021

stefani. >> aye. >> commissioner walton. >> aye. >> you have 11 ayes. the motion passes on its first reading. >> director chang, are you here? >> yes, chair. >> we have a number of items still on our agenda today. i would like to try to get my colleagues out of this meeting by 1:00 so there is an hour between the two meetings. what is your recommendation for how we proceed? >> great. may i suggest we take item 8. that does set up the context for the legislative session to come and we can perhaps defer 7, 9, 10 to the next meeting or call of chair. >> to defer 7, 9, 10 does require or does not require a motion to continue? >> it does not require a motion. it is at your call. >> we do not need public comment if i defer them? >> we should probably take public comment. i will defer to the attorney to confirm that. >> this is the deputy director we do not need public comment if we tip the items. >> do you have any preference about when i move these at the call of the chair or moved to the next meeting, director chang? >> to the next meeting. >> great. then we will take up item, 7, 9, 10 at next meeting. please call item 8. >> approve the 2021

i will add supervisor stefani fee waiver legislation was cosponsored by supervisor haney, chair of budget committee. at one point i was worried about the fee waiver. i am feeling more optimistic now. that is one worth keeping an eye on. it involves giving businesses shut down refunds for fees they have already paid, which i am sure would be welcome. that is a good one. okay. next item, please. >> item 12. commissioner discussion and new business. discussion item. >> i have given my report. i am not going to take up any more time. anybody else here? commissioner zouzounis. >> i want to follow up on a couple items mentioned in the report. local sba office of san francisco is giving presentations to anybody who wants a presentation. any trade association, merchant group, neighborhood association that wants a presentation reach out to their office or to me to schedule a presentation on ppp or whatever you want related to the federal funding. in terms of the error codes you may be getting, our office may be getting calls about related to ppp second or first draw loans, that is an it issue. i c

stefani. you had amendments and closing remarks to make before we move this forward. >> thank you, chair haney. i will be brief. i want to thank everybody who called in towed. i hear you. i absolutely agree that this should be a beginning. there is so much more to do. the last caller looks forward to the day when it is easier for small businesses to operate in the city. i look forward to that day as well and will do everything to work towards that goal with you at our side helping us do that. finally, i want to thank chair haney for his cosponsorship and my early cosponsors ronan and mandelman. thank you to the members of this committee, supervisor s afai and marfor your support today. i want to thank my office, legislative aid has worked so hard on this legislation. we couldn't do this without him. with that, chair haney, i would ask one of your committee members to move my amendment and pass out to the full board with as age of recommendation. >> so moved. >> we have your amendment is moved. could we please take a roll call vote on the amendment? >> on the motion, vice chair safai. >> aye. >

chair is aaron peskin. will you please call the roll. >> commissioner mandelman. >> present. >> commissioner mar. >> present. >> commissioner melgar. >> present. >> commissioner peskin. >> present. >> commissioner preston. >> present. >> commissioner ronen. >> absent. >> commissioner safai. >> absent. >> commissioner stefani present. >> commissionerrual ton. >> present. >> we have a quorum. >> great. thank you, madam clerk. any announcements? >> i would like to announce about public comment. it will be available for each item on the agenda. telephone by calling 415-655-0001 access code (146)691-8807. pound and pound. when you join you will be able to listen as parties pant. public comment when it is called star three to be added to speak. the live operator will advise you will be allowed two minutes to speak. calls are taken in the order received. speak slowly, clearly, turndown your volumes. that concludes my announcements. >> thank you. can you please call the second item. >> citizens advisory committee report. information item. >> mr. larson. take it away. >> thank you. good morning, chair mandleman, vice chair peskin and commissioners. i am the representative from district 7. i will report on the cac meeting january 27, 2021. among the 13 items or requests for prop k funds item 4 this morning. the cac

chair peskin: thanks. any questions from committee members? seeing none. are there any members of the public who like to testify on this item and ms. lee -- -- i think supervisor stefaniboth have federal and local lands that are adjacent to one another. i'm delight to hear that. are there any members of the public who like to testify on this item? >> yes, members of the public who wish to provide public comment on it item, call 415-655-0001. meets i.d., 144 592 7527 and present pound and pound again. please dial star 3 to line up to speak. >> we have no callers in the queue. >> chair peskin: okay, public comment is closed. i like to send ms. leung to the full board on recommendation. roll call please. [roll call vote] motion passes without objection. >> chair peskin: next item please. >> clerk: item 5, hearing to consider appointing one member term ending april 27t2021 and six members terms ending april 27, 2022. >> chair peskin: we took action on one of the seats, seat number 4. before that time and during the interim, my office communicated with i believe every single remaining applicant. i want to thank my staff who is a former member of the sunshine ordinance task