stephen, i did hearyour interview of kirill on this topic, and i have to say that the original data that phase 1—2 study, and they licenced the product. we at that point said, "gee, we'd love to see what the basis is behind that and look at the data." we didn't get data. at the end, in my world, data speaks. let me explain why that's important. if there is a bad effect from a vaccine, it won't only poison that vaccine, it will affect all vaccines. what we need is transparency of data, we need to make sure the products are made properly and meet global standards, and i'm not going to apologise for that because if you don't do that, you put at risk the whole enterprise of vaccines, which by the way, has been able to reduce child mortality by 50% in the last 20 years and reduce vaccine—preventable diseases by 70%. because we can get these vaccines out and people trust them. you know a lot about delivering vaccines and persuading people to take them and you know trust is a very important issue here. how damaging is it when you hear politicians, and i'm going to quote several from different p