now mr penman had no —— wasn't _ policy.ve any— wasn't around in 2010 and didn't have any influence on the policy but there _ have any influence on the policy but there was _ have any influence on the policy but there was an fda representative in decamber— there was an fda representative in december of 2017 who wrote a letter to the _ december of 2017 who wrote a letter to the permanent secretary reminding them that— to the permanent secretary reminding them that fairness at work was a fair achievement for all concerned and advancements for workplace policy _ and advancements for workplace policy over the united kingdom. seems — policy over the united kingdom. seems to— policy over the united kingdom. seems to me at the very least that if the policy was to be changed, it should have been changed in a developed fashion with full consultation, and of course one of the other things are enquiries thrown up is that last—minute suggested changes were being made to the review to develop policy on the day that it was being signed of