i'm going to turn the meeting over to victoria westbrook and call on tom wolf and richard beal. and supervisor stefani, thank you. >> this is victoria westbrook again. dr. martin, you said that most people you're dealing with at the s.i.p. hotels and community are not seeking treatment. i went to treatment not seeking treatment. right? as a drug addict, what i was seeking was drugs and more drugs and more ways to use drugs. so i really think that -- and there could be a lot of reasons why people aren't seeking treatment, right? in addition to the fact that what they want to do is keep using because that's what they know. they could have been to some of the programs and not gotten clean, so why try again? or know people who have gone to programs and didn't get clean. there's a lot of reasons for that. we can talk to people in different ways than we are right now with community members to let them know that they can go to treatment. i never felt demonized or stigmatized in my abstinence-based program. i have no problem saying i'm an addict. i don't feel any shame around that whats

, my name is richard beal. and i am really, really excited about this opportunity to speak to you about the different needs of our recovery working group. i want to applaud cedric akbar and my good friend cregg johnson for being on the battlefield for many years. i started working in this field in 1996. in 1996, i got hired at a center for 3.35 an hour. i worked there for five years, a detox center. for five years we brought people into the program, and it didn't matter where they came from. they laid down in front of the door, some of them, and they were able to come in and get residential resources. this was the social model detox back in 1996. we had a number of programs we could refer people to, long-term programs that worked. they had faith-based programs, 12-step programs. and these programs do not exist in san francisco today. western district recovery house, men's program, 12-step residential program, tom smith, located in the san francisco central, and lone star program, and the population was h.i.v.-p

, my name is richard beal. and i am really, really excited about this opportunity to speak to you about the different needs of our recovery working group. i want to applaud cedric akbar and my good friend cregg johnson for being on the battlefield for many years. i started working in this field in 1996. in 1996, i got hired at a center for 3.35 an hour. i worked there for five years, a detox center. for five years we brought people into the program, and it didn't matter where they came from. they laid down in front of the door, some of them, and they were able to come in and get residential resources. this was the social model detox back in 1996. we had a number of programs we could refer people to, long-term programs that worked. they had faith-based programs, 12-step programs. and these programs do not exist in san francisco today. western district recovery house, men's program, 12-step residential program, tom smith, located in the san francisco central, and lone star program, and the population was h.i.v.-p

i'm going to turn the meeting over to victoria westbrook and call on tom wolf and richard beal. and supervisor stefani, thank you. >> this is victoria westbrook again. dr. martin, you said that most people you're dealing with at the s.i.p. hotels and community are not seeking treatment. i went to treatment not seeking treatment. right? as a drug addict, what i was seeking was drugs and more drugs and more ways to use drugs. so i really think that -- and there could be a lot of reasons why people aren't seeking treatment, right? in addition to the fact that what they want to do is keep using because that's what they know. they could have been to some of the programs and not gotten clean, so why try again? or know people who have gone to programs and didn't get clean. there's a lot of reasons for that. we can talk to people in different ways than we are right now with community members to let them know that they can go to treatment. i never felt demonized or stigmatized in my abstinence-based program. i have no problem saying i'm an addict. i don't feel any shame around that whats

i'm going to turn the meeting over to victoria westbrook and call on tom wolf and richard beal. and supervisor stefani, thank you. >> this is victoria westbrook again. dr. martin, you said that most people you're dealing with at the s.i.p. hotels and community are not seeking treatment. i went to treatment not seeking treatment. right? as a drug addict, what i was seeking was drugs and more drugs and more ways to use drugs. so i really think that -- and there could be a lot of reasons why people aren't seeking treatment, right? in addition to the fact that what they want to do is keep using because that's what they know. they could have been to some of the programs and not gotten clean, so why try again? or know people who have gone to programs and didn't get clean. there's a lot of reasons for that. we can talk to people in different ways than we are right now with community members to let them know that they can go to treatment. i never felt demonized or stigmatized in my abstinence-based program. i have no problem saying i'm an addict. i don't feel any shame around that whats