change in the future i'm talking about the next few years china has very strong economic ambitions ok tarsem when we talk about china we're often using it we tend to use a lot of isms i made a little less neo colonialism all full rich area of revisionism techno nationalism you know is this just a reflection of the of the fact that the west of the the the west has a tendency to to misunderstand. obviously isms or reduction ism and i would even throw one more ism in there which i would say is actually kind of defining which is macand to lism china is trying to create a kind of hub and spoke system through things like the road initiative through a different layering of new lock in relationships also in technology to basically create chokeholds and access and control issues that gives it a lot more political leverage geo politically but the truth is is that china is a very complex country with a massive history governed at multi layers there is a huge centralizing effort right now we see this in the crackdown for example on chinese big tech you know the cheating thing is really trying to consoli

that writing tarsem. the heartland of people's territory threatening their very lives existence isn't really gotten to you and it's not the right thing to do so you know already a lot of people have been arrested who were basically were standing up there is that all kinds of cops trying to protect our skulls and stuff but claimed criminal particular water destroying our living room and destroying the environment and we know that you know it's really. it's really wrong what's happening to us and went out you're obviously extremely passionate and well informed i do have a question for you regarding some of the things that you might be up against one of the biggest arguments against dropping the keystone pipeline and pipeline 3 and other projects like it is the cost in american jobs conservatives argue that thousands of jobs would be lost if these projects in what is it what message would you say to them and why do you think they ignore the significant health and environmental threats posed by these projects