amanda golden. amanda, thanks for being with us this saturday morning. i do understand president biden spoke with senator joe manchin. any idea what was said? >> yes. president biden spoke with joe manchin on the debate we saw go late into the night yesterday. we don't have the specifics, but it speaks to the pressure that was definitely bubbling up thach wanted to make sure they were unified to move forward for these finally amendments during the vote-o-rama which you can see and speaking to the larger divisions that we see, progressive versus more moderate issues. senator joe manchin from virginia was not onboard with the democrats. you spoke to the differences in costs that ended up coming up with this revised democratic plan of $300 a week instead of $400 and seeing where they could cut corners on costs that at least for more moderate democrats, it was more superfluous and now needed for the emergency covid relief they're pushing for right now. >> don't go far. we'll like look come back to you. joining me now is kentucky congressman and the chairman of the house budget committee john yar muse. great to have you with me. i don't want to waste any time. let's get right to it. let's start with this unemployment insurance, the benefits that happened overnight that eventually passed. so, look. people need to understand that this bill is going to be voted on in the senate, and even if it passes the senate, it has to go back to the house. this reduced unemployment rate is going to be a stickler. is this something the house will go for? >> i think we'll finally support it, tiffany. there are so many important things in the bill that are going to help so many millions of americans. the one good thing, now they're extended through september, which is important. we don't want to have to be fighting this again in three month if the unemployment rate is still as high as it is. there were trade-offs, but, again, this is something we won't lose any votes over this one in the house. >> all right. you say there were trade-offs. certainly that's true. but does it feel to you like democrats were negotiating against themselves, make concessions for republicans, many of whom won't even vote for the bill? >> right. we circulate -- have that same issue in the house. look, i've been around here a number of years now. just to see a piece of legislation of this magnitude passed by the house actually even bevoted on in the senate is moving in the right direction. jern rally we pass very important legislation and it's buried under mitch mcconnell's stump. we're thrilled it looks like this is going to pass and we'll get a chance to send it next week. >> you said buried under mitch mcconnell's thumb. let me ask you about the $1,400 stimulus checks because i understand that that may sound like a lot of money to some, but it's really not a lot of money, particularly given that some of this will be taken up by overdraft fees and late pays. you say the cut off is $80,000 a year. i'm curious when you say bad optics. bad optics to whom? >> there are a lot of people out there saying, wait a minute, couples make g 00 -- making $200,000. 80% of the population is going to get this check. i think republicans are coming up with all sorts of cckamamy reasons for. this it's a fop lar bill. they're trying to figure out how to oppose it. we're on political ground for this. >> i have to stick with this. what about people who live in oakland, boston, new york, or washington, d.c., where we are. maybe for folks who filed taxes mate 200 k a year and things happened and now they made less. people who thought they might be getting this desperately needing a stimulus check now won't. is there any recourse for people who made that money, which is not a lot of money in some mayor cities where the cost of living in some cities is really high as you know, what's the recourse for those folks? >> i think what you have to say is we're giving a lot of money to state and local governments. they can use that money in a variety of ways. they can society up assistance and operations and plans for people in need. the fact is you can't use a scalpel to do national legislation. you have to make broad decisions and come up with answers, and this is one of the things we have to do. there's no right level. if you set up a system based on need, it would take probably at least six months to set it up, and them you'd have to create a huge bureaucracy to a national . yeah, there will be people who could use that $1,400 apiece who will not get it, but, again, 250 million people will. >> yeah. i think people's personal situations is what people expect, quite frankly, from its members. your budget chair is going to be faced with a lot of competing interests. it's one thing to rally against a divisive president like we had before. how can democrats harness this power and maintain this very fragile majority by trying to meet some of these challenges within the party? >> it's going to be tough. we never made any bones about it. we always knew it was going to be tough. the thing we keep stressing is we'd rather be in this position where we have at least a nominal majority in the senate and a slim majority in the house than being in the minority of either body. so we have the opportunity to do a lot of important things for the american people. we passed two significant bills, one on criminal rights, one on justice reform. we're going to have a stand alone vote. we can only lose five votes. we're making most of our opportunities here, and that's all we can do. >> mr. chairman, thank you so much for joining us this morning. we'll definitely have you come back. i want to bring in your colleague congresswoman sheila lee. let me ask you. you saw the session around unemployment benefits. do you think this is something the house will go through, the reduced unemployment benefits t reduced checks. do you think they can do that? >> good morning. thank you so much for having me. there's no doubt americans in the united states are hurting. my chairman has fought very hard of which i'm a member. we pushed hard back on the neanderthal and devices and limits on the other side of the aisle. here's where we are. here's the good news. we have a president of the united states that will sign a vigorous beg bill. he listened to the science, the doctors, the economists, the secretary of the treasury, the chairman of the reserve, and went big. i know when we finish this, we'll have gone big. we'll be near the $1.9 trillion. am i for the way the house bill did it by eliminating household incomes where they have four, five, six children, and they may seem regionally high, but the dollars don't go far. am i for $400 with unemployment expanded, yes. with unemployment and no jobs to be seen, i am. but i'm in for the fight. the fightcy will continue to work that these people who have been brought to their kneeses, the ones in my district who say get that american rescue act, get that plan, i'm trying to keep my business going, i want to keep my ploys, i'm going to fight for them, and i'm going to make that point, yes, the democratic party is a big tent party and it's about america. i don't like what's coming out of the senate. for those suffering out there, i'm not going to abandon the good for the perfect. i'm going to, however, keep fighting for the perfect. i think that's where we are. we have something now that we never had in the last four years, destructive four years. we have a president waiting with his pen to sign it and get it out to the american people. >> all right. but you talk about people on their knees needing this bill. 1,400 is not a lot. can meshes expect another round of covid fund relief to hit their bank accounts? >> the one thing they should know is the expanded child tax credit. family members have come up to me and said thank you, thank you, thank you. the public assistance funding is going to keep the firefighters on the job along with municipal workers. we're going through the normal appropriations process. what does that mean? we'll have expanded medicaid, continue to support s.n.a.p., continue to support more dollars for smaller businesses. our families are going to see more money. we're not going to abandon them. as you well know, we're coming into hurricane season. >> yeah, absolutely. >> this is a government that is not going to turn its back on the american people. it's not going to turn its back on the constituents in the 18th congressional district. >> let me ask you. you're not turning your back, but we might get into turning your back on a filibuster. do you think democrats have a moral obligation to overturn the filibuster given what the people of this country did to overturn the power of def democrats. >> let me try to be enormously thoughtful as a trained lawyer and somebody who brings in the constitution. i'm a mentee of it. i know the senate, the upper body, is a body of institution provisions and the filibuster is one of them, but, you know, i'm beginning to think as i've seen the impoverished, as i've seen how covid-19 has taken the lives of so many americans, and particularly hard hit are african-americans and his spannicing and our people of color. how long have we had to wait? i think the filibuster has now probably run its course and we have to stay in for another battle, and that battle will be the fact that we have to stay in the majority. we have to tell our constituents we did our work for them. we did criminal justice reform for them. we did it for them. if we do that and say that the filibuster is just a figment of the idea and have the great rlkt for, i'm look for the need. it's something to be reconsidered. again, it will be the senate that makes that determination. those are the people you'll have to pose this question to. >> i certainly will. i want to thank you, congresswoman. i want to say before i let you go, i know you're partnering with meghan. i'm so excited about it. come back and bring meghan with you. stay safe. i know they're lifting the mask mandate the texas, so stay safe. thank you so much for joining us. don't go anywhere at home because coming up the house democrats expected a bill. will senators play ball? what do you think? we'll be right back. u yothink? 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>> yes, tiffany. this week we put out a full page ad in 20 papers throughout the state of georgia calling to question the corporate citizens and companies in the state of georgia, where are you on this issue, are you standing with the community around protecting our vote, that what we know is these kpaers have an enormous amount of power and influence with legislatures, so this is an issue -- this should not be a partisan issue. it's a democracy issue. what makes it interesting, when you think of the state of georgia, black voters, black people in this state, we contribute $106 billion to the economy. we're workings, work in manhattan, stockholders, and we're citizens, their neighbors and commerce. what we think is important is for them to stand with us and with us. it was actually coca-cola when dr. king won a prize, coca-cola put pressure and said if you don't come, we will leave and go to atlanta. we do know corporations have a history of putting pressure, and it does work. >> let me city withlatasha. let me say what's in some of the legislation. in georgia they're limiting one sunday to voting in each county. they're making it illegal to give food or water to people who have been standing in line for hours. who exactly do you think that's targeting? in most black neighborhoods you stand for hours. name some names, latasha. go gangsters. >> i'm going to start with southern company of georgia power, that company contributes to the fw op, republican senators more than any other company in this state. when you look at who was raised here, coca-cola, a multi-national company that often talks about racial tolerance and racial equity. home depot is based right here in georgia. u.p.s. is based right here in georgia. delta air lionels is right here. we'll with standing on the side of democracy because ultimately democracy is good for business. >> stephanie, let me turn to you. i've got to say the way latasha keeps 100, so does forever float. mrs. obama doesn't mince words. she calls out voter suppression. i'm curious. when we all vote was certainly one of the voter engagement programs. what does the word of when we all vote look like during off-election years which really doesn't exist because they're always happening but years like this. >> that's right. this is still a year we have to do a lot of work. there's no more off years. have to afford it. people are guaranteeing we sit back and do nothing. we flow are 253 bills that have been i introduced. we're talking about 43 state. we cannot sit back and watch this happen. we have to look at how they use their voices in the process. we have to make sure we understand what's happening and we take power. mrs. obama released a statement and posted it on instagram. we were having an organizing call with over a thousand people talking about the importance of making their voices heard by calling senators and pushing them to push h.r. 1. we know this bill will help push us forward so we will all have equal access. the fact that mrs. obama says we have equal access is a fair game. they have to be equipped with the tools and research they need so they can fight. yes, we're a voting organization, but we're a sieve ill and educational organization. we're going to make sure they have all of the tools to ensure we're making our voices heard and building an army. i will tell you this. people are ready. they're paying attention. so if folks think they're going to get by on this this time, they're not going to. we're all super woke at this point. >> as the great urban philosophers have said, ain't no play in g.a. look, is was fortunate enough to partner with lebron james on one of the all-star campaigns. i know a lot of players have spoken out about this ridiculous draconian bill in georgia. what does the work of more than a vote look like this weekend and the ongoing work of the nation? >> first of all, i'd follow latasha and stephanie anywhere and i'm happy to follow them up on this show. we again working in the election last year, but the election is just the beginning. we released an ad yesterday, lebron voiced it over. it's focusing attention on what's happening in georgia and across the country. we have bloody sunday tomorrow and a game being played in atlanta at ground zero for the voter suppression effort happening across the country. we wanted to make sure players could speak on this. you'll see it before the game, during the game, and after the game. we know it's just the beginning. it's going to be happening. but our organization is committed to making sure that voter suppression and viegt alition and for black people an across the country. >> you know, this is the first anniversary of bloody sunday without the beloved congressman john lewis. there's something to be said we're still fighting battles he fought decades ago and it's pretty sad. thank you so much lattailyasah -- latasha and sheila and others. be safe down there in atlanta during all-star. >>> it's been quite a year since the pandemic upended our lives. you don't want to go anywhere. up next, dr. anthony fauci is answering questions on "cross connection." i'm asking all the things that have not been asked that you want to know, so stay tuned. n au want to know, so stay tuned. ♪ hey now, you're an all-star, get your game on, go play ♪ ♪ hey now, you're a rock star, get the show on, get paid ♪ ♪ and all that glitters is gold ♪ get 5 boneless wings for $1 with any handcrafted burger. only at applebee's. ordinary tissues burn when theo blows. so dad bought puffs plus lotion, with any handcrafted burger. and rescued his nose. with up to 50% more lotion puffs bring soothing softness and relief. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. ♪ ♪ (kids talking) pnc bank believes that if an app can help you track your pizza... come on cody, where are you buddy? 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>> when you talk inferior, tiffany, we have to be careful. we're talking three convenience that are quite good and same. the aspect with all of them is they're all very, very good and almost completely protected against hospitalizations and deaths, which are the things we want to be most concerned about. when you want to say one is better than the other, the only way to say that is to compare them under the same circumstances head to head. so we're not saying one is better or worse than the other. we're saying all three of them are really quite good. the president has made it very, very clear we're going to have equity, which means we're going to distribute these equally among the different components the same as we did with d other two. there's not going to be any preferential shipping to one versus the other. in a certain circumstance someone may prefer they would want a single dose because of the circles in their life. that's fine, but there's not going to be a deliberate sending it to one demographic group versus another. >> right. and so for people who have gotten boast shots who are completely inoculated. what's the guidance? can we be around each other in public with a mask, without a mask? i know you've said it, but it's important for people who may not hear this message all the time. >> the cdc very soon -- when i say very soon, i mean within days at the most is going to come out with some guidance people can check out. in discussions what i've done publicly around i'm sure this is going to be contained in the cdc guidelines, at least if you have two people in a family unit in a home or friends who are vaccinated where everyone is vaccinated in a home setting, not necessarily outside but in a home setting a group of people who want to get together for dinner or get together for a social gathering, if you have a group within a home and everyone is vaccinated, you can pull back on some of the public health guidelines like you don't have to worry a mask or worry about physical distancing. that being said, it will come out with the cdc guidelines, which will come out very soon. >> i think even is eager to get the guidelines. how effective are these three vaccines against the varvariant? >> well, there are several variants. the one that was from the uk, it's referred to as 1.1.7.we refer to it as wild type. that one right now is spreading within the united states and modelists say by the end of march, it might actually be the prevalent one. fortunately for us, the vaccines we're distributing right now do very well against that. there's one more problematic one in south africa, which is also in this country but at a very low level that it diminishes somewhat the impact and the efficacy of the antibodies that the vaccines induce. not enough to make it completely wipe out the effects of the vaccine but diminish it somewhat. and then there's what we call homegrown mutants. for example, in california, there's a variant that seems to be seeding itself in a much more prev land way. and there's one in new york called 526. each of these we keep our eye on. for the most part when it diminished somewhat the effects of the vaccine, they certainly still have some effect of protecting you certainly against severe desea. what we're going to be doing is boost people and making vaccines just in case that are working specifically against the variant. but no matter what's going on with the variants, the important thing, two things, "a," get vaccinated when your time comes asylum because the vaccines work, and, 2, continue to implement personally and in your family, whatever, the public health measures, the masking, the physical distancing, and the avoiding of congregant settings. if we do those two things, that's the best weapon against these variants. >> let me ask you because you said something important there. good vaccination when the time comes. i've talked to a lot of people, i'm young, healthy, not in a rush, and i want to make sure people who are more vulnerable get the vaccine first. but they have access to the vaccine. what do you say to those people? should they wait or jump ahead and get the vaccine? >> you don't want to jump ahead of people who are lined up in the prioritization. but when your segment opens up, you should get vaccinated absolutely. we have phase 1a, 1b, phase 2, phase 1, phase 2, phase 3. when it opens up for you, the people before you had the opportunity to get it. when it's offered to you, i strongly recommend you get it, whether you're young, middle aged, or the elderly. you need to protect yourself because by doing that, you're personally protecting yourself, but you're also part of the community effort to keep the vaccine suppressed. even though you're young and healthy, you can play an important role in controlling the outbreak. >> i have some friends who work if farm the pharmacy and they're telling me they have to throw away hundreds of convenience at the end of the night because they have to be used. what's your advice to people who want to inoculate people and they miss their appointments or something happens. is there a waitlist or pipeline to let people know, we've got leftovers, can we vaccinate you? >> the first thing we should do is correct that. if we're well organized, that should not happen. we're having the community vaccine centers where people can go particularly in demographic groups that are not immediately accessible. putting it in pharmacies and mobile units. but to your particular question, we should never let vaccines go to waste. if you find out you have vaccines you're going to go away, don't throw it away. just go out and vaccinate someone. better to vaccinate someone who it's not their turn than throw it away. we should never, ever do that. >> i want to know if undocumented immigrants will have action stoes the vaccine. if those governors, particularly people who are opening up their states again prematurely, what's your advice to them around inoculating the undocumented? >> they absolutely should do that. they should vaccinate everyone who's here who ha access to the vaccine. the department has made it clear you'll be fine. they should not do anything to prevent or dissuade people from getting vaccinated. vaccinating teen undocumented individuals will be a step toward controlling the outbreak that's going to have impact on all of this. >> a lot of people will ask me i have hypertension or diabetes or asthma, but they don't have health care, so they don't have a way of providing documentation to show that they should be prioritized. wh advice to those folks? >> i think they should go into the place and try to convince them of that. obviously, first of all, you want to get those people vaccinated because people who have underlying conditions absolutely should get vaccinated because you're the one who has a greater chance of a more severe outcome. so whatever way you can convince individuals that you do have an underlying condition by any kind of documentation, you should try and do that. i know it's a difficult problem. it's not easily solvable, but they should try as best as they can, because they need a vaccine. >> that's right. before i let you go, i'm just curious, dr. fauci. throughout this process, what lessons have we learned so far so that we're better prepared the next time a pandemic hits because we know these pandemics are inevitable. >> you know, there are so many of them, tiffany, we could spend the rest of your show going through them, but the thing that stands out to me is this is a public health problem. we should all be in it together. the worst thing you could have is trying to attack a serious outbreak when you have severe devicefulness in society. we need to put that aside and say we're all in this together, we've got to crush this outbreak, and let's not get into a situation where we're so divided that simple elementary public health measures take on a political connotation. that should never circulate happen and it shouldn't happen in the future. >> well, dr. fauci, thank you so much for being here. i do want to tell you your name has become a noun. my friends say, have you gotten the fauci yet? 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