billy townsend, who passed the law that makes it so that medicare can't negotiate drug prices, went on to become president of the pharmaceutical trade group. just shortly after they passed that bill and he made millions of dollars. there are high-profile examples of members of congress getting paid very well to become lobbyists. host: an example of how you can use the open secrets website, opensecrets.org, you can type amazon into that website and look at their contributions and lobbying efforts over the past year. when it comes to lobbying in 2020, amazon spending some 18 million dollars on lobbying, ranking ninth in 2020. that is up from $60 million in lobbying from 2019. what have you found about amazon lobbying? guest: amazon has increased at spending every year for the past six or seven years. as amazon has grown, its influence has grown. not just because they have more money, but because they have more employees, which means they have more employees in every congressional district and every state. that is something they can go back to members of congress and remind them to maybe

billy townsend, who passed the law that makes it so that medicare can't negotiate drug prices, went onresident of the pharmaceutical trade group. just shortly after they passed that bill and he made millions of dollars. there are high-profile examples of members of congress getting paid very well to become lobbyists. host: an example of how you can use the open secrets website, opensecrets.org, you can type amazon into that website and look at their contributions and lobbying efforts over the past year. when it comes to lobbying in 2020, amazon spending some 18 million dollars on lobbying, ranking ninth in 2020. that is up from $60 million in lobbying from 2019. what have you found about amazon lobbying? guest: amazon has increased at spending every year for the past six or seven years. as amazon has grown, its influence has grown. not just because they have more money, but because they have more employees, which means they have more employees in every congressional district and every state. that is something they can go back to members of congress and remind them to maybe -- they defi