government's independent review on the economics of biodiversity and from copenhagen denmark is asked like grinstead who's an associate professor of physics of ice climate and earth welcome to you both thanks very much for joining us on counting the costs for me start with you if you believe that seas are rising faster and higher than previously estimated why is that and put that into context for us and tell us what that means by the beer looked at the data from from 850 and or watch and then we can see the sea level rising at their rising faster and then they don't that observations of all. and b.p. can from that we can see the that you can extract how sensitive how strongly the sea levels respond to to warming and then become pad that that's a likely get out simply like how much faster the sea level rises many people on earth by one degree and you can compare that to what we see and in the models that are used to project the level and we see that they are inconsistent the sensitivity is and that is what leads us to conclude that that the models they're simply not sensitive enough and therefore i e

but the anything california elected arnold's what's in the grinstead print that was a bad move for it isn't a good move by texas and mississippi, congressman? >> should probably address that with my mask which is very popular in california these days. [laughter] yes i think gavin newsom is just doing whatever he can to get out of that hole. he is just shoveling himself deeper and deeper. >> another wonder thousand signatures on the recall petition and think going to see california open up. all of these mandates and these lockdown leftists conference of the biggest surge of infections only after months. after mandates. our mortality rate in california is now greater than that of sweden no mask mandates, no school closures even though sweden's population is older and is at greater risk. kennedy: what will it take? we now have 1.8 million signatures to get the recall on the bout for unit 1.5 million. they went to pad it by 500,000 just to make sure there are no shenanigans to get a bunch of those names thrown out. so what will be newsom's act of desperation? >> that remains to be seen. t