we were a hell of a lot better off with james mattis in the pentagon than a lot of the clowns who followedi know it's hard for people to grasp, some people to grasp on twitter, but deborah birx was working a tightrope and if you think she should have quit much earlier, if people think that, that's fine, but there's an argument to be made that she actually staying in there and being humiliated time and again and slugging it out and fighting behind the scenes probably did a lot more good than if she had quit earlier and let an idiot like scott atlas go in there. >> and dr. fauci didn't quit. i didn't hear the same calls for him, why didn't he step aside? no, people wanted dr. fauci in there the way they wanted dr. birx. i take your point. and i also would just say, that the guidance people from the outside, who haven't been around donald trump, the people like dr. deborah birx is, flattery of this man gets you what you want from him. if you do it in public, all the better. so she went out and said things that made a lot of us cringe about donald trump, his handling of the facts and the way h