joanne freeman and our fantastic moderator stephanie mccurry for such an important. timely and illuminating discussion you really enabled us to better assess current challenges with faith in american government and the current climate of society through the lens of the kinds of lessons. we can draw from our history.vat of the heartland. but what does it mean to say that he was a president of the heartland? here i'm referring to his his what midwestern values hard work patriotism honesty duty and integrity. now those values are not