ray saldana. >> there's a lot of important sentiments in there that we could agree with and one i want to lift up, and i think the point is a correct one, when we can support families and we can support families, we do it, our community and staff has plenty of examples where at the end of the day mom or dad need support as well. i know in the case of my own family and the case of the families we work with, especially during the pandemic, families that just did not know how to navigate the resources that were available to them -- >> we'll leave this program at this point. you can watch the remainder of it on our website, c-span.org. >>> members of facebook, google and facebook. >> today's hearing is being held remotely. all members and witnesses will be participating via video conferencing. as part of our hearing microphones will be set on mute for the purpose of eliminating inadvertent background noise. witnesses and speakers will need to unmute their microphones to speak. due to the anticipated length of this hearing the committee will take a 15-minute recess around 3:00 to provide wi