you have told us that you work for the bureau of criminal apprehension as are commonly referred to as the b.c.s. correct correct you describe for the juries what is the b.c. . so this is a state law enforcement agency we are under the umbrella of department of public safety. delineated to the 4 divisions investigated vision that i'm a part of we have the information service is a laboratory as well as a training section and we provide services to law enforcement agencies as well as the community and so your jurisdiction is generally where the state of minnesota. in may 25th of 2020. what were your duties as a special agent. i've currently the case asian on the investigator for this investigation so i was notified of the incident fairly quickly and you mentioned earlier about currently having a different assignments. here's point of the jury's how your assignment has changed from may 25th of last year to today so i'm back now i was in the metro homicide unit which investigated both homicide as well as officer involved incidents there's a newly formed force investigations unit that i'm n

today in the derek chauvin trial a use of force expert, a special agent for minnesota bureau of criminal apprehensionlly the state's version of the fbi and 3 forensic expert news nation correspondent janelle forte is in minneapolis with a look at today's proceedings. >> it's packed today the defense tackling a piece of its central argument. the george floyd was under the influence of drugs that day last may. and that's ultimately what led to his death, not the actions of former officer derek chauvin. their focus on what george floyd said in a key piece of body camera i your reason. >> and i can make it out. >> the question first came up during the defense's cross examination of los angeles pd sergeant jody steiger then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james ryerson took the stand. >> ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. >> did you hear that? yes, the few that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure out report is saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson

from the moment the squad cars were taken away to when the bureau of criminal apprehension was broughtthey have been trying to do for two weeks now that derek chauvin violated department policy. i just violated department policy. i 'ust want to be sure i violated department policy. i 'ust want to be sure that i'm i want to be sure that i'm understanding the different roles of some of the people we are hearing from. so how does this investigation that we see here fit with, say, the police chief who we heard from earlier in the trial. how do they fit together in terms of the power structure within minneapolis police? so the bureau of criminal apprehension is a separate body in the state of minnesota, and in the initial interviews that happens, the fbi was involved, but many of the witnesses we have seen on the stand have all spoken to the bureau of criminal apprehension. they have given statements, they are provided videos, they have provided medical records like he was talking for instance of george floyd. the section of that police fraternity, he's in charge of the minneapolis police d

>> i'm a forensic scientist in the drug chemistry section of the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension alsoo known as bca. >> can you describe for the jurors your educational your forensic scientist. >> i earned my bachelor of science in biochemistry in the university of wisconsin madison and that sciences and bob forensic sciences from boston university. i'vefr also undergone various training in both of my employments. >> when did you obtain your bachelors degree in biochemistry >> 2009. >> and your masters? >> 2011. >> and where have you worked since obtaining your bachelor science degree in this field? >> i worked for four years in dallas county, texas. at the southwestern institute of forensic sciences, as a drug chemist in the forensic science. >> how long did you do that? >> four years. >> and when did you leave that job? >> 2017. >> where did you go to work from there? >> at the bca. >> been at the bca ever since? >> yes. >> and do you have any professional affiliation and groups that you belong to? >> yes. >> can you tell the jurors what those are. >> i'm a member of the americ

police. >> a special agent for minnesota's bureau of criminal apprehension, which is the state's version of the fbi along with 3 forensic experts. now we do want to warn you, some people may find this video disturbing reporter janel forte is in minneapolis with a look at today's proceedings. >> it's packed today the defense tackling a piece of its central argument. the george floyd was under the influence of drugs that day last may. and that's ultimately what led to his death, not the actions of former officer derek chauvin. their focus on what george floyd said in a key piece of body camera things. i your reason. >> and i can make it out. >> the question first came up during the defense's cross examination of los angeles pd sergeant jody steiger then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james ryerson took the stand. >> asking certain listened to mister floyd's. did you hear that? yes, appear that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure you're saying. >> and i know. >> so

of commerce? where did you go after that. >> the bureau of apprehension. >> when were you hired by the bureau of criminalnsion? >> 2013. >> and that's where you are today. >> initially licensed in 2007, you maintain your license entire time. >> no. >> the middle of 2013, i was not. >> so middle of 2013 to 2016 i was not. >> that's when you were doing corporate work. >> correct. >> as a licensed police officer, you've done all that, directed your career. >> yes sir. >> when you were hired at the bca in 2018, what were you hired to do? >> i was hired to the metro homicide unit so we investigated major homicide as well as officer involved. >> when hired at the bca are you required to through some training priorto working at the bca ? can you describe the screen you have to do when you? >> training was involved with writing search warrants, report writing as well as some tactics. interview interrogation as well . >> do you also have to spend some time at the medical examiner'soffice ? >> yes sir. >> i recently we quality program office while conducting. >>. >> are you currently working on an additionaleducat

>> the bureau of criminal apprehension. >> when were you hired by the bureau of criminal apprehension? >> 2018. >> and that's where you are today still? >> correct sir. >> so initially licensed in 2007. >> yes. >> did you maintain your license as a peace officer during that entire time period? >> no. >> when -- >> 2013 to 2016 i was not. >> that's when you were working -- from middle of 2013 to 2016 i was not. >> and that's when you were doing the corporate work? >> correct. >> as a licensed peace officer, you are required to take some on going educational credits kreshgt? >> yes, sir. >> you have done that throughout your career with the exception of that two year period? >> yes, sir. >> when you were hired at the bca in 2018, what were you hired to do? >> i was hired in the homicide unit. we investigated major homicides as well as officer involved incidents. >> when you hired at the bca, are you required to go some -- through some training specific to working for the bca? >> yes, sir. >> can you describe for the jurors the kind of training that you had to do when you started with th

>> the bureau of criminal apprehension? >> 2014. >> that's where you are today, sir? >> yes. in the middle of 2013 to 2016, i was not. >> that's when you were working -- >> from 2013 to about 2016 i was not. >> that's when you were doing the corporate work? >> correct. >> a licensed peace officer, you are required to take ongoing educational credits, correct? >> yes. >> and you have done that throughout your career? >> yes, sir. >> when you were hired at the bca in 2018, what were you hired to do? >> i was hired in the metro homicide unit, so we investigated major homicides as well as officer involved incidents. >> when you were hired at the bca, were you required to do training for the bca? >> yes, sir. >> can you describe for the jurors what kind of training you had to do? >> search warrants and report writing as well as tactics, interviewing, interrogation. >> do you also have to spend some time at the medical examiner's office? >> yes, sir. >> describe that for the jury. >> i recently finished a program at the medical county medical examiners office conducting autopsies. >

and the critical incident policies of the bureau of criminal apprehension were followed in this particular case, right? >> yes, sir. >> now when you conducted the first search of the mercedes-benz back on may 26th of 2020, you were present when that happened, right? >> from some of the time. >> but another crime scene team analyst would have taken photographs, looked at things and preserved that both digitally by the way of photographs, plus keeping the actual evidence, right? >> yes, a bca agent took the photographs. >> that's mckenzie anderson? >> no, that was special agent joseph o'brien. >> he was part of the crime scene team? >> yes, sir. >> your job is to investigate the case, right? >> yes, sir. >> so did you review those photographs? >> yes. >> did you specifically take note at that time of the presence of pills in the mercedes-benz? >> out of the 750 photos i reviewed, i did not. >> okay. so it's not that you didn't preserve the evidence, you just didn't notice it? >> correct. >> and, again, based on what you had learned, you weren't necessarily looking for anything of that nature

1st interview that you provided was in may was on may 31st 2020 with an agent from the bureau of criminal apprehension anything as well as an f.b.i. agent in christopher way or cracks and you have you had an opportunity to review a transcript of that interview that 1st interview yes. you were also then you had a meeting on december 14th with the prosecution team in preparation for this case right. he's i'm going to december 14th when he does believe me if i told you that i believe you ok. then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the f.b.i. agents and some prosecutors from the federal government yes. and then you met again with prosecutors on february 21st of this year 25th of this year. and then finally on march 31st which i believe was just yesterday. and you understand again that you that at least the meetings with law enforcement they were recorded transcribed and you had opportunities to review both of those transcripts and in fact i think yesterday when you met with prosecutors you went through the f.b.i. transcript from that meeting back in june i think in ok. so. i know tha

. >> senior special agent with the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension. frank: in general what is a senior special agent do? what is your job entailed? >> with the newly formed use of force investigationoe group. we conduct criminal investigations into use ofns force incident. frank: i your license peace officer? >> yes, sir. frank: you are not wearing a police uniform. when you worked you have a uniform? >> generally now. generally plainclothes. frank: you mentioned, when did you first become licensed as a peace officer? >> i started my law-enforcement career 2007. >> i served at the. [inaudible] nypd. >> did you do some training to be a nypd officer? >> it nypd at a six-month academy that i successfully. >> let's rent to your educational work experience for your job as a peace officer. first of all did you obtain a four-year undergraduate degree? >> i did. frank: describe what that is expected bachelors of science in criminology university tampa. frank: what you're did you achieve that? >> 2006. frank: after that did you work in the field of law enforcem

this is still under investigation by the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension, that also investigated george floyd last may. anchor: let me turn then, larry, to the protests. some pictures we were seeing last night were again violent. is it possible to know during the day what might transpire later? larry: it is not a was possible, but often the organizing happens on social media. you already see posts telling people to gather. they had a vigil yesteay, a memorial. and then it loads up into the protest, which often degenerates into these riots. i was at one of the protests two days ago outside brooklyn center police station. and the chant they have is, there are no good cops in a racist system. they see this blue wall of silence that exists in america. law enforcement officers often protect each other and don't testify against each her. there often is, whenever there is a case of police brutality when a black american died after an encounter, they will just say there was a few bad apples and many police officers are good. that is not the feeling people get here, because the system pro

policy to turn over the investigation of any critical incident or the majority to the bureau of criminal apprehension quick. >> yes. >> that is to avoid any potential conflicts between the involved officers right? and then to make sure the scene in doing the things that we should be doing in connection and then to tape off the scene. so not permitting citizens to wander through the scene. or canvassing the area and then it was limited to a couple of hours to make sure those things were done. >> that's correct. nelson: it was not until later that you are asked to review the body worn cameras of the officers and is a force and then to do such a use of force analysis. i have no further questions. >> did that also capture the bystanders on the sidewalk during the incident. >> with that group of bystanders in your assessment was an uncontrollable threat to the officers at the scene? >> let me ask you this way. would there be other ways for officers to deal with bystanders? >> yes. nelson: could that include calling for backup? >> yes and then consider using amount of force that there is concern about the

policy to turn over the investigation of any critical incident or the majority to the bureau of criminal apprehension quick. >> yes. >> that is to avoid any potential conflicts between the involved officers right? and then to make sure the scene in doing the things that we should be doing in connection and then to tape off the scene. so not permitting citizens to wander through the scene. or canvassing the area and then it was limited to a couple of hours to make sure those things were done. >> that's correct. nelson: it was not until later that you are asked to review the body worn cameras of the officers and is a force announcer: we have the entire trial on our website. you can watch by typing in derek chauvin in the library search box which you can find on our homepage. also available are briefings, house and senate floor speeches, and other events available at c-span.org. monday starts the second week of the trial for derek chauvin, the former minneapolis police officer charged in the death of george floyd. watch live coverage of the trial monday at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span2, online at c-span

today in the derek chauvin trial, a use of force expert, a special agent for minnesota's bureau of criminal apprehension in 3 forensic experts to know for to brings us the very latest on what happened inside of the courtroom from minneapolis. >> it's packed today the defense tackling a piece of its central argument. the george floyd was under the influence of drugs that day last may. and that's ultimately what led to his death not the actions of former officer derek chauvin their focus on what george floyd said in a key piece of body camera i >> he really isn't. and i can make it out. >> the question first came up during the defense's cross examination of los angeles pd sergeant jody steiger then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james ryerson took the stand ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. >> did you hear that? yes, the few that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure out report is saying and i know. so that was an exercise mister nelson asked for the first time sitting ther

former brooklyn center police officer kim potter was arrested by minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agents wednesday morning and booked into hennepin county jail, the 48 year old charged with second degree manslaughter. three days after fatally shooting 20 year old dante right during a traffic stop, but not everyone is satisfied with the charges, and they want the case transferred to a special prosecutor. it's absolutely a joke. what she did was murder. we demand murder charges. potter along with the brooklyn center, police chief tim gannon resigned on tuesday. gannon saying potter mistakenly used her gun instead of her taser when she shot right. but civil rights attorney ben crump, who represents rights family says it was no accident. the veteran police officer mistook her gun for a taser. i am just shocked and i am upset. i am outraged at what point did you not feel that this was a gun in your hand versus a taser? minnesota state senators are now pushing for legislation in wright's name for police, accountability and public safety. we are demand. injustice for dante way are demand

i decided to contact the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension and they are a state agency that conductstical incidents. i deemed this would be a critical incident and it's been our protocol to alert them and they would conduct tt investigation. so i made that call to the b.c.a. to have them start to conduct this critical incident. >> did you then proceed to city hall? chief arradondo: i should say i notified the minneapolis mayor that this is the situation we have at least right now and i would brief them as i receive more information. i then proceeded to leave my residence and i went directly to my office in city hall. >> when you arrived at city hall, do you recall seeing any video, images, or footage of this event? chief arradondo: the first time that i saw a video of the event was after i was notified that mr. floyd had now been -- was now deceased. and so i'd asked my deputy chief to pull up what i -- knowing the area really well and knowing there's usually a camera, a city-ownedera at that location, i asked him to locate that video so that i could review it. >> and that's what we

playing a short clip from a body camera to special agent james reyerson with the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension, who investigated the police floyd's pained voice is heard while he's being restrained >> does it appear that mr. floyd said, "i ate too many drugs"? >> yes, it does. >> reporter: the prosecution had a dramatically different interpretation when it played a longer clip >> having heard it in context, are you able to tell what mr. floyd is saying there? >> yes i believe mr. floyd was saying "i ain't do no drugs." >> reporter: at the courthouse this week -- >> this is nail-biting i can say. >> reporter: george floyd's youngest brother rodney, who watched multiple officers take the stand. >> i've never seen chief officers willing to testify against their own. we need more of that across this country. accountability that's it. >> reporter: late today the prosecution called several witnesses who examined pills found in the back of the police squad car. investigators testified the pills contained meth lester >> gabe gutierrez, thank you. >>> president biden turned up the heat on congress toda

investigation of any critical incident or the majority of critical incidents we should say to the bureau of criminal apprehension yes and that is to avoid any potential conflicts between the involved officers. yes. and so your role you heard this call came out and you kind of self assigned to show up here. and you did that because you wanted to make sure the scene was secure yes to make sure that the officers who have responded to the scene were doing the things that they should be doing in connection with a critical incident those are such as roping off or tying off the off the tape or taping off seem right putting up courage yes yes not permitting citizens to come wandering through the scene. canvassing the area i think you said and ultimately your role in this particular case was limited to a couple of hours of time making sure those things were done and until. b.-c. agents arrived and you handed off to see if you have such good and it was it was not until later that you were asked to review the body were.

department training materials right yes and you received investigative reports from the bureau of criminal apprehension correct yes and you received video cameras cracked or videotapes. and you received materials within the training materials that also contained like videos or examples an illustrative type of materials as part of the training ritter right. let me rephrase sometimes in a powerpoint presentation there may be a video embedded in that in that powerpoint presentation and that video is an example of a specific move or it may be training exercises or the scenario based dreams did you see all of those no i did not know it was able to because most of the power point presentations were in a p.d.f. form so i was not able to view that ok so you've not seen the training videos prepared by the minneapolis police are you know. but all of this material that you have received is in fact what you used in part to form your opinions in this case right yes you relied on those materials to a certain extent yes and some of those materials were completely irrelevant to this case reed yes such is the use of th

contact the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension and they are a state agency that conducts our critical incidents i deem that this would be a critical incident and it has been our protocol to alert them and they would conduct that investigation so i made that call to the b.c. a to have them start to conduct this critical incident. did you then proceed to city hall. i should also say that i right after that call way notified minneapolis mayor jake upright to say that this is the situation we have at least right now and that i would brief him as a receive more information i've been proceeded to leave my residence and i. went directly to my office in city hall. when you arrived at city hall do you recall seeing any video images or footage of the. the 1st time that i saw a video of the event. was after i was notified that mr floyd at now been disclosed now deceased and so i had asked my deputy chief to pull up what i knowing the area really well and knowing that there's usually a camera a city on camera at that location i asked him to locate that the so that i could review it and that's wha

and then with this being a critical incident this was going to be handed over to the bureau of criminal apprehension record. while. we still didn't know this was indeed a critical incident but. we were. i was going under the assumption that it was. you know it's better safe to go that way than not. as that because of that there are some steps taken to ensure that when this was handed off it can often a matter of a tick tick in over with correct yes so it was a did either deal or zimmer. make a suggestion to you about having a privacy. yes or no what do they ask for. a just as a crime scene log even started my test. with that test crime scene was just a lot of names of officers and personnel that enter the crime scene and did you see officer areola start compiling a crime scene yes the publish exhibit 89. you can see this officer ariel here. yes and he appears to be holding something so right. yes that the crime scene mug. i believe so. so if you testified at some point you heard that mr floyd had died correct. yes. and. do you recall how you received that which. was later on in the night sergeant da

and what was decided. >> that the bca would be in charge of the operation, the state bureau of criminal apprehension. >> and when that decision is made, what's the role of minneapolis police at that scene? >> well, first it's to support the bca investigative team with whatever they might need that night. and also, it's to secure the witnesses that we may find to see if they would be willing to talk to the bca. also, it's when you're at a scene, trying to locate any video cameras again and filling in the bca agents that arrived. >> and in fact, at some point did bca agents arrive? >> yes. >> and when they arrived, just describe a little for the jury what the process is upon their arrival. >> yeah, the bc agents-- generally or specifically in this case? >> just generally. >> when the bca arrives, they'll come up to you for a briefing and you tell them what you have at the scene or what you've learned, and where people are at, you know, in this case, the officers were brought to room 100, that kind of thing. and then you tell them, or you ask them what help they might need. >> and then specifically did

the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension is currently investigating this shooting. the governor identified the man as 20-year-old deonte wright. minnesota governor tim walz sweeted this, is he monitoring the situation and he is morning with the wright family. >>> as we mentioned the latest unrest comes as week three of the derek chauvin trial begins today. 35 witnesses have been called to testify for the prosecution so far, including minneapolis police officers. on friday, a county medical examiner joined other experts in their conclusion that george floyd died because of the actions of derek chauvin, saying that fentanyl and heart disease did not directly cause floyd's death. the defense is expected to begin their case this week. >>> developing this morning, a recall effort likely to kick in to remove an embattled north bay mayor. at least four women have recently come forward claiming windsor mayor dominic faukpoli sexually assaulted them. yesterday activists gathered. the mayor yesterday issued a new statement calling the accusations unfounded. it reads in part "

at that time at least i was told was still alive, i decided to contact the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension-- >> c-span2 live this morning for the trial of minneapolis police officer derek chauvin who is on trial for the death of george floyd, and you're watching c-span2. >> note your appearances. >> [inaudible] >> if an attorney is present and going to the podium you

there is sergeant reyerson was the lead agent investigating this case. 50 agents of the bureau of criminal apprehensionhe defence is trying to say george floyd said he ate too many drugs. to clean up he ate too many drugs. to clean up that testimony, sergeant reyerson said now here's george floyd saying "i ain't on no drugs," which directly contradicts what the defence was trying to say in the original clips. because the defence's entire argument is that george floyd died from a drug overdose and underlying health problems of. £31 drug overdose and underlying health problems of. of course, that's really. — health problems of. of course, that's really, really _ health problems of. of course, that's really, really important i that's really, really important point and extremely sensitive in what has been an incredibly harrowing case so far. absolutely. and the defence was having a good day trying to score points and poke holes in the testimony of the people we are today, especially people who were directly involved in the investigation. they started to lose points, that was one of them. the last being the

the first interview you provided was in may, on may 31 of 2020 with an agent from the bureau of criminal apprehension >> as well as an fbi agent, correct? >> yes. >> and have you had an opportunity to review the transcript of that interview, that first interview? >> yes. >> you were also then you had a meeting on december 14 with the prosecution team in preparation for this case, right? >> december 14? >> december 14. would you -- >> i believe you. >> okay. then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the fbi agents and some prosecutors from the federal government, right? >> yes. >> and then you met again with prosecutors on february 21 of this year, 25th, excuse me, of this year? >> that sounds right. >> and then finally on march 31 which i believe was just yesterday, right? and you understand again that you at least the meetings with law enforcement they were recorded, transcribed and you had opportunities to review both of those transcripts? >> yes. >> and, in fact, i think yesterday when you met with prosecutors you went through the fbi transcript from that meeting back in june?

examination of los angeles pd sergeant jody steiger then brought up again when minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agent james ryerson took the stand. >> ask you, sir, to listen to mister floyd's. >> did you hear that? yes, the few that mister fine said i too many drugs the prosecution redirecting her hand. and listen to that piece of audio and trying figure out report is saying. >> and i know. >> so that was an exercise mister nelson asked for the first time sitting there. >> yes, the prosecution then played a longer clip of the video having heard in context. i want to tell. what mister mister for saying i do lieve >> with all different than what you are asked about. we saw. >> now, as you know, for reporting today in court, largely focused on george floyd's drug use when his testimony will begin again tomorrow morning, though, the lawyers may meet with the judge publicly before that to hash out some legal issues. you can find the latest on the trial on our website, kron 4 dot com. an east bay community is on edge after this video of an arrest by hayward. police officers are accused of using exce

former brooklyn center police officer kim potter was arrested by minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension agents wednesday morning and booked into hennepin county jail, the 48 year old charged with second degree manslaughter three days after fatally shooting 20 year old dante right during a traffic stop, but not everyone is satisfied with the charges, and they want the case transferred to a special prosecutor. it's absolutely a joke. what she did was murder. we demand murder charges. potter along with the brooklyn center police chief tim gannon resigned on tuesday. gannon saying potter mistakenly used her gun instead of her taser when she shot right, but civil rights attorney ben crump, who represents rights family says it was no accident. the veteran police officer mistook her gun for a taser. i am just shut up. and i am upset. i am outraged at what point did you not feel that this was a gun in your hand versus a taser? minnesota state senators are now pushing for legislation in wright's name for police, accountability and public safety. we are demanding justice for dante. we are demandi

the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension is now investigating the shooting >>> the trial that has garnered international attention could set a precedent for policing today all eyes will be on minneapolis where closing arguments and jury deliberations will begin in the trial of derek chauvin. cities across the country have increased security, bracing for a verdict. our meagan fitzgerald is following the story for us >> reporter: minneapolis on high alert. windows boarded up national guard members on nearly every block, preparing for unrest as the case against ex-officer derek chauvin comes to a close >> this moment is of enormous consequence for our city, for our state, and for our nation and our world. >> reporter: the jury will hear closing arguments from both sides before their deliberations begin. >> a verdict has to be unanimous. so all 12 jurors will have to vote either guilty or not guilty any split in the juror, even one juror who is a holdout for, for example, not guilty, that results in a hung jury and a mistrial >> reporter: from coast-to-coast, cities are gearing up nyp

schleicher: this is a critical incident would be handed over to bureau of criminal apprehension? >> at that point we still didn't know this would be a critical incident. i was going under the assumption it's better safe to go that way than not. schleicher: because of that, there were steps taken to ensure when this was handed off it would be handed off in a manner to be smooth. either dale or zimmerman make a suggestion to you about. [inaudible] >> yes. they said the crime scene market started and i started an officer with that task. it is a log of names of officers and personnel that into the crime scene. schleicher: did you see officer to start compiling the crime scene log? >> yes. schleicher: exhibit 89. you can see the officer here. >> yes. schleicher: he appears to be holding something. >> yes. schleicher: a crime scene log? >> i believe so. schleicher: you testified at some point you learn that mr. floyd had died. correct? >> yes do you recall how you receive that information quick. >> later in the night sergeant dale informed me mr. floyd had passed away. schleicher: purel

special agent james ryerson of the criminal bureau of apprehension is back on the stand. he's been testifying about the chain of custody, what he found on the scene and what he did with it. >> and agent ryerson, as part of the investigation in your usual cases, does somebody from your agency usually attend the autopsy? >> yes, sir, generally. >> that was done in this case? >> no, sir. >> do you recall why? >> i believe it was covid-19 restrictions as per the hennepin medical examiner's request. >> and as part of your investigations, is it typical to obtain a blood sample from the deceased? >> yes, sir. >> do you know if that was done in this case? >> yes, sir, it was. >> can you describe for the jury how that came about? >> peterson got it from the medical examiner, brought it back to the bca and presented it to the lab. >> to be clear, that's a sample of mr. floyd's blood, correct? >> correct. >> and that's presented to the lab for any testing they might need it for? >> yes, sir. >> at some point in the investigation, did you receive a copy of the autopsy report from the

all and then you had a series of witnesses you had a special agent james ryerson of the bureau of criminal apprehension a state agency and he was shown a segment in which it's very difficult to hear what george floyd says but he was asked by the defense counsel does it sound like he said i ate too many drugs and he said yes it did and then the prosecution came back in redirect played that same segment again with a little more context and then said is that really what you heard him say and then james driers and said no i. now i understand him to have said i ain't doing no drugs completely the opposite of what he said so there was an exciting moment and then a reversal and then we had a series of forensic scientists people 2 of them working for the state of minnesota and one of them a private expert brought in by the prosecution examining pills found in the car were george floyd was sitting apparently they were marketed to look as if they were the opiate oxy code on and acetaminophen but in fact contained methamphetamine that is what the 2 state experts said and then the private was witness brought in by

. >> the first interview that you provided was may 31, 2020 with an agent from the bureau of criminal apprehension named nathan as well as an fbi agent named christopher, correct? >> yes. >> and have you had an opportunity to review the transcript of that interview, that first interview? >> yes. >> you were also -- and then you had a meeting on december 14 with prosecution teams in preparation for this case, right? >> december 14? >> december 14. would you believe me if i told you that? >> i believe you. >> then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the fbi agents and some prosecutors from the federal government, right? >> yes. >> and then you met again with prosecutors on february 21 of this year, or 25 of this year? >> that sounds right. >> and then finally on march 31, which i believe was just yesterday, right? and you understand, again, that you, at least the meetings with law enforcement, they were recorded, transcribed, and you had opportunities to review both of the transcripts. >> yes. >> and i think yesterday you went through these fbi transcripts from that meeting. >>

. >> received investigative reports from the bureau of criminal apprehension? > yes. >> you received video camera or video tape? >> yes. >> you received materials within the training materials but also contained videos for examples type of materials, right? >> i don't understand. >> i'll rephrase. sometimes in a powerpoint, there may be a video embedded in the powerpoint presentation. the video is an example of a specific training exercise or scenarios, you see all those? >> i did not, most of the powerpoint presentations were in pdf form so we could not view them. >> so you have not seen the training videos prepared by minneapolis police department? >> no. >> all of this material you have received is what you use in part to form opinions in this case, right? >> yes. >> you relied on the materials to a certain extent? >> yes. >> some of the materials are completely irrelevant in this case? >> yes. >> such as the use of the taser. >> yes. >> the mounted patrol. >> yes. >> but you received other information that was informative and had an effect on your analysis?

the lead investigator on the case for the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension, and a prosecution expert on the use of force from the los angeles police department. >> do you have a pin to a degree of reasonable professional certainly, that the force used as shown in exhibit 254, whether that force being applied then for the restraint period which you have defined would constitute as deadly force? >> yes. >> what is that opinion? >> that it would. >> reporter: he was also asked about the crowd shouting at police as they restrained floyd. >> it would be possible for a loud group to distract the defendant from being attentive to george floyd, is that right? >> yes. >> do you believe that occurred? >> no, i do not. >> why is that? in the body 1 video, you can hear mr. floyd displaying his comfort and pain. you also can hear the defend responding to him. >> please. please. ahh. i can't breathe. >> relax. >> reporter: he testified about the medical complication as an officer himself when putting pressure on someone's body. >> how long have the dangers of positional asphyxiation been kn

hall provided an interview to agent doug henning of the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension andgent rookery -- of the minnesota bureau of reaction. after the incident on may 25 mr. hall left the state of minnesota and return to texas and was ultimately apprehended based on warrants that existed and was apprehended in the state of texas and agents henning and maureen traveled to texas to interview him. at that time i would note that mr. hall had a fun attorney who was present and was giving him advice as to providing statements about this particular incident.de the statement that he provided included just to give context of the statement, the statement was approximately an hour and a half long and he freely answered the agents questions about where he and mr. floyd spent the day and what his behavior and what their behaviors were and where they want and the things that they did earlier in the day and specifically how he appeared physically and what his demeanor was et cetera. he then provided information to mr. -- excuse me, agents relevant to being in his observations of mr. flo

the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension moments ago identified the officer in question is kim potter longtime veteran of the brooklyn police force. officers initially pulled right over for a traffic violation but discovered he had an outstanding warrant and you just saw what happened next, resisted arrest, potter appears to shoot him by accident, she seems truly shocked, the chief of police is the officer meant to pull out her taser, not her sidearm. accident are not blm radicals are using this horrific tragedy as an excuse to rampage the city of brooklyn center which we are monitoring will bring you the latest as it escalates, frankly is not surprising. not saying blm learned from last summer's riots, they conclude, burn, destroy with impunity without any consequences. in the wake of these riots police officers are treated like the real criminals and made to suffer. police budgets, manpower in the shopping lot, violent crime is unsurprisingly on the rise, offices lives are in greater danger. just last night 3 officers were shot in georgia during a brutal high-speed chase and gunfigh

interview that you provided was in may -- was on may 31st of 2020, with an agent from the bureau of criminal apprehensioned nathan adams as well as an fbi agent, correct? >> yes. >> have you had an opportunity to review a transcript of that interview, that first interview? >> yes. >> all right. you were -- then you had a meeting on december 14th with the prosecution team in preparation for this case, right? >> december 14th? >> december 14th. would you dispute me if i told you that? >> i believe you. >> then you also had an interview back in june of 2020 with just the fbi agents and some prosecutors from the federal government, right? >> yes. >> and then you met again with prosecutors on february 21st of this year -- or 25th, excuse me, of this year? >> that sounds right. >> and then finally on march 31st, which i believe was just yesterday, right? >> yes. >> and you understand, again, that at least the meetings with law enforcement, they were recorded, transcribed and you have had opportunities to review both of those transcripts? >> yes. >> in fact, i think yesterday when you met with prosecutors, you

. >> you were first interviewed by agents of the bureau of criminal apprehension and fbi back on september 10 of last year, do you recall that? >> correct. >> and you have had another meeting, as of march 12, with prosecutors and other agents of the dca, correct? >> correct. >> and you understand that those statements were recorded. >> correct. >> and we have been provided with transcripts. >> correct. >> have you had an opportunity to review your statements prior to coming into court? >> yes. >> and you had an opportunity to review your transcript? >> correct. >> so, i just kind of want to walk through, again, we've now watched a few videos from both inside the store, outside the store and from the neighboring business, agreed? >> agreed. >> and you had an opportunity to address something that happened inside the store, outside the store, throughout the whole incident, right? >> correct. >> so, you are working your shift you said started about 3 p.m. that day, correct? >> correct. >> and this incident ultimately was around the 7:30 to 8:00 our? >> correct. >> and the video when we were wa

. >> from the bureau of criminal apprehension? >> yes. >> and you received videotapes? yes. >> you received materials within the training materials that also contained, like, videos or examples and illustrative type of materials as part of training materials, right? >> i don't quite understand. >> let me rephrase it. sometimes in a powerpoint presentation, there may be a video embedded in that powerpoint presentation. that video is an example of a specific move or it may be training exercises or the scenario-based trainings. did you see all of those? >> no, i did not. i wasn't able to. most of the powerpoint presentations were in pdf. i was not able to view the videos. >> you have not seen the training videos prepared by the minneapolis police department? >> no. >> all of this material that you have received is, in fact, what you used in part to form your opinions in this case, right? >> yes, sir. >> you relied on those materials to a certain extent? >> yes. >> some of those materials were completely irrelevant to this case, agreed? >> yes. >> such as the use of the tase

. >> with this being a critical incident, this was going to be handed over to the bureau of criminal apprehension> well, at that point we still didn't know if this was, indeed, a critical incident. i was going under the assumption that it was -- it was better safe to go that way than not. >> because of that, there were some steps taken to ensure that when this was handed off it would be handed off in a manner that it could be taken over with smoothly, correct? >> yes. >> did either dale or zimmerman make a suggestion to you about having a crime scene log? >> yes. >> what did they ask for? >> they just asked if a crime scene log had been started. and i tasked officer areola with that task. crime scene logs just -- it's a log of names of officers and personnel that entered the crime scene. >> did you see officer areola start compiling a crime scene log? >> yes. >> published exhibit 89. you can see, is this officer areola here? >> yes. >> he appears to be holding something, is that right? >> yes. >> is that the crime scene log? >> i believe so. >> as you testified, at some point you learned that mr.

. >> and the critical incident policies of the bureau of criminal apprehension was followed in this particular case, right? >> yes, sir. >> now, when you conducted the first search of the mercedes-benz back on may 26th of 2020, you were present when that happened, right? >> from -- some of the time. >> but another crime scene analyst would have taken photographs, looked at things and preserved that both digitally by way of photographs plus keeping the actual evidence, right? >> yes, a bca agent took the photographs. >> that's mackenzie -- >> no, joseph o'brien. >> he was also a part of the crime scene? >> yes. >> so your job was to investigate the case, right? >> yes. >> did you review those photographs? >> exactly. >> did you specifically take note at that time of the presence of pills in the merced mercedes-benz? >> of the 750 photos i reviewed, i did not. >> so it's not that you didn't preserve the evidence, you just didn't notice it? >> correct. >> again, based on what you learned about what happened in this case, you weren't looking -- necessarily looking for anything of that nature, righ

we know that potter was initially turned herself in yesterday morning to the minnesota bureau of criminal apprehension. of course, that charge made official when he was filed yesterday afternoon of second degree manslaughter, carrying a maximum sentence up to ten years in the state of minnesota and as it stands right now, as far as the reception goes, we saw last night another massive protest right here in front of the brooklyn center police department. hundreds of people turning out, swelling in size until that 10-feet of curfew went into effect. we had national guard close in on this area, clearing it out within a few minutes. one important note we didn't see last night that we saw on prior nights was the use of tear gas. it was yesterday the mayor of brooklyn center denounced the use of that, calling it inhumane when it comes to protests. so, right now, we have had a chance to hear from the family of daunte wright following those charges and they say that this isn't enough, especially in their eyes, they believe this is an intentional act whenever wright pulled that trigger filing that fatal shot k

i have done lots of law enforcement training through the bureau of criminal apprehension here in minnesotas well as oh my gosh, teaching everything from middle school science students through high school and college and all kinds of professional groups whether it is other forensic pathologists or other groups of law enforcement. you name the organization that comes into contact with death investigation and i have probably talked to some of them at some point. >> do you have any publications? >> that has not been a main focus of my career, but i was, i have several and early on was involved in a autopsy protocol that was ultimately published by the united nations that is still in use. >> so let's switch topics and talk about your experience testifying in courts. have you testified before in court? >> yes, probably over 100 times. >> is that predominantly in your role as a medical examiner? >> it is mostly in my role as a medical examiner. i did the autopsy and then the prosecution would call me to testify as to my findings. i have also testified as an expert witness, consultant, in cases wh

. >> from the bureau of criminal apprehension. >> yes. >> and you received video cameras or videotapes. >> and you received materials within the training materials that also contained like videos or examples and i will husband twra difference type of materials as part of the training materials? >> i don't quite understand. >> sometimes there is a video embedded in a power point and that video is an example of a specific move or it may be training exercises or the scenario based trainings. did you see all of those? >> no, i did not. i wasn't able to. because most of the power paint presentations were pdf forms so i was not able to view the videos. >> so you have not seen the training videos prepared by the minneapolis police department? >> yes. >> but all of this material that you received is what you used in part to form your opinions in this case? >> yes, sir. >> you relied on those materials to a certain extent? >> yes. >> and? of those materials were completely irrelevant to this case, agreed? >> yes. >> such as use of the taser, right? >> yes. >> such as the mounted patrol unit, ri