you know druckerman is a smart guy no doubt and he may be right you know the timing on the dollar is tricky for sure chickie i'll say. i've got a 10 year treasury. spiked a little bit celiacs ago now it's kind of going sideways but a lot of like bank of america is saying that the 40 year bull market in bonds is over that's a widowmaker that's that's a trade that's put a lot of people and they finance all money management cemetery over the past 10 years but it is the 40 year bull market in bonds over lawrence you want to take a stab at that it could be added or i mean that's that's a great question let's go back to the premise that the bond market is actually a market right i mean above market it's not really a market like the bomber it's a government signaling mechanism as best i can sell so you know you want to know where your bomber bolen bomb markets over asked what the treasury are going to you know i mean i you know it should be over it's sort of been over long ago but it's not the reason you know the old fire and right well that's that's how it all ends right i mean you know th