goddard: i love what i'm doing because we are a laboratory that supports wildlife law enfoement at the local, state, federal, and international levels. nothing like this has ever been done before. it is so satisfying to set something like is into motion. huff: it definitely has a major role, i think, in future investigations. and it's definitely made our work a lot easier, but it certainly adds to the overall investigation success rate. gisele: i think one of the results of this project and of volunteering for it will really resonate with us the day that we hear of a conviction of a logger being done because they matched a sample that we collected. spalding: there's a lot of demand for this wood, and unless it's sourced in a way that's renewable and consciously managed, you know, eventually the risk is, of course, an imminent loss of that resource and dwindling of supply. otherwise, it's going to disappear, and that would really be a true crime. woman: scientists at the u.s. fish and wildlife laboratory in oregon hope forensics will one day help stop the importing of illegal lumber. me