scott we're going to talk a little bit more about this phenomenon that is climate fiction it's as johndroe that's really been gathering speed for some time now so how would you say classified differs from the traditional dystopian fiction that that's really been around for many decades. yeah i think the big differences of even traditional dystopian science fiction i mean you know in 1904 brave new world the worst possible future that's imagined is a future of sort of political dictatorship but with the rise of the climate catastrophe as a sort of the greatest fear of mankind you've seen writers respond to that end and start to imagine what this fear could look like if you realize so so books about the climate catastrophe or imagining a future in a climate catastrophe have become real bestsellers like like mylan does have a history of b.s. or a giant cooks of the new wilderness which was just nominated for the book it was interesting because it seems to me that the tone of some of these novels has has changed if you will what's your sense are they more or are they less pessimistic. yeah i d

scott we're going to talk a little bit more about this phenomenon that is climate fiction it's as johndroe that's really been gathering speed for some time now so how would you say classified differs from the traditional dystopian fiction that that's really been around for many decades. yeah i think the big difference is i mean with traditional dystopian science fiction i mean you know in 1904 brave new world the worst possible future that's imagined is a future of sort of political dictatorship of with the rise of the climate catastrophe as a sort of the greatest fear of mankind you've seen writers respond to that end and start to imagine what this fear could look like if you realize so so books about the climate catastrophe or imagining a future in a climate catastrophe have become real bestsellers like like my island does have a history of beings who are dying cooks of the new wilderness which was just nominated for the book it was interesting because it seems to me that the tone of some of these novels has has changed if you will what's your sense are they more or are they less pessimi