solvatten is still a family company. it's a challenge. of course, we can make a big difference, a huge difference for the people actually getting solvatten. i see water being the key and the most important things that's to be looked after. we're in an interesting position where we're working with both private companies wanting to be a part of the solution, and the not-for-profit world as well as the for-profit world. >> so we always try to find good subsidies, to find possibility to reach the people who need solvatten the most, and that is a way of using a sustainable solution, that it's a high investment for poor people, but if you conceive just after 10 months, you have the whole return of investment just you look at the energy savings. i think that's important to see if we can have solutions used for many years. it's a very important way to go to help poor communities. if you can have high-quality solutions that are sustainable instead of making very cheap solutions that's a waste after a short usage. 04/05/21 04/05/21 [captioning made