we have a mosque at one end, an anglican church at the other end, the opium den that oscar wilde wentjewish — all on brick lane. extraordinary world. i want to come back to what you said, gilbert, about the journey. and you always place yourselves in the centre of this journey you've made, in the course of 50 years of creativity. if we were looking at some of your earlier works, on bbc television, we wouldn't be able to show some of the words and images, because over the years, and people remember you for it, in the �*70s, �*80s, you focused a lot on taboo subjects. you know, i'm thinking of the human body — all of it, all of the orifices, all of the bodily fluids, of the faeces, the urine, the genitalia — all in different ways were taboos that you put front and centre in your artwork. have you stopped doing that? no, i think all those pictures still exist. they travel the world. we have a show on in frankfurt at the moment with pictures from a retrospective. we only want to de—shock, not to shock. sorry, you wanted to what? to de—shock. what do you mean by...? to take the shock eleme