join me in welcoming, todd green and sara kamali. >> thank you, dafydd. i want to think rachel who could not be here this evening. i'm delighted to be here virtually at north shire books, and i'm also looking forward to speaking with todd and i would also like to thank everybody has taken the time to join us this evening. thank you. >> thanks for having me as well and i look forward to the conversation with sara about this brand new book i think is groundbreaking and really brings together two important topics they we talked but. not often linked together in political and public discourse in the united states, and an interesting conversation we can have maybe follow up with the audience, why that is. aside from the fact haven't read her book yet. hopefully that will change, right? so i am happy to be in this position of sort of facilitating conversation officially with sara but her book and let start. along to the -- lang those lines. there are a lot of media pundits and politician that would not readily see a connection between white nationalists and mil