someone to to provide guidance to to her in her role as first lady and jackie kennedy also had known betty ford when they were, you know, congressional wives together and she also was gave advice to to mrs. ford. i'm trying to think of some other good relationships are friendships. i don't know of any. bad, you know downright hostile relationships that they're apparently i guess. some people have wondered if melania trump is upset that jill biden is getting such good. oh, you know for the most part good press in these first months is as first lady, but mrs. trump hasn't called me up to give me what her true opinion is so i can't comment on that. um but historians will say at a time will tell on time. well, certainly say that mrs. kennedy was very very helpful to lady bird. johnson as well, so if jackie kennedy was our third youngest first lady. she's only in her early 30s. she became so identified with the white house and how to run the white house and how to present the white house that she was someone that several subsequent first ladies. consulted sure. and our last question because this has

betty ford. people have asked me over the course of the submission who may her favorite first lady is. betty ford is my favorite first lady. she had a short time as first lady but her legacy, she was so impactful. whether it was speaking up, for being very upfront about her battle with breast cancer which has saved millions of lives. the way she advocated for breast cancer screening. to her support for pro-choice. and really, very outspoken at a time when women were just beginning to be very active, in advocating for women's rights, in the streets, and in public. here was a first lady who was echoing a lot of those concerns. so much so that she became very very popular. because as one of the campaign buttons that we have in the exhibition. keep betty our first lady. not re-elect gerald ford. keep betty our first lady. i realized how little i knew about her impact, and just how compelling and remarkable a woman she was. you know, after leaving the white house, her frankness about her battle with a

nixon betty ford also garnered a lot of media coverage for their speeches and activities. and betty ford's interview that you see here with morally safer on 60 minutes where someone controversial and surprising was some of what she said and unlike edith the roosevelt. she talked about a lot of personal things, but she really humanized herself as a first lady and her family. and then news releases as i said begin that process and there's an example here of one from michelle obama barbara bush's photo holding an aids baby was powerful and that it eventually helped change americans misconceptions about the disease and influenced her husband to support legislation to assist victims. if we reflect on powerful visuals think about nancy reagan's appearance of the correspondence dinner dressed as second hand rose, which helped turn her image which was suffering at the time. laura bush filled a very important role for a country reeling from 9/11 when she used the radio channel that had been used by lou henry hoover many years before she was the first first lady to do the presidenti

betty ford says the job diminishes but it never ends. if you say we have five first ladies living, i wouldn't want to name any of them because it wouldn't be fair. i probably wouldn't name any of the words i've written about a lot. ladybird johnson and roosevelt's because i think i know them a little bit. i would go for the ones i don't. now that i really couldn't get to, grace coolidge for example in the 1920s, is one of the most fascinating. we don't really know. she had the reputation at the white house for being a frivolous, should the tragic death of her son, so that wasn't a frivolous time but in general she is pictured with raccoons and dogs, and wearing fashionable clothes. she doesn't seem to have an opinion on anything. she says she was never consulted on anything that mattered, but after she left the white house, she wrote poetry, she got involved in causes. i think that there was a lot more to her than we ever knew. i would just like to ask her what she was thinking about when she was holding those raccoons and posing for all

you know betty ford said the job diminishes, but it never ends. so if you say we have five living first ladies, i wouldn't want to name any of them because it wouldn't be fair. i probably wouldn't name any of the ones that i've written about a lot lady bird johnson the roosevelt's because i think i kind of know them a little bit. but i would go for the ones that i don't know that i really couldn't get to when i was grace cooley for example in the 1920s. is one of the most fascinating and we don't really know she had the reputation the white house for being a little bit frivolous. she had the tragic developer's son. so of course that was that was not a frivolous time, but in general she's pictured with raccoons and dogs and wearing fashionable clothes, and she doesn't seem to have an opinion on anything and she says she was never consulted on anything that mattered. but after she left the white house, she lived another. years and she wrote poetry she got involved in causes and i think there was a lot more to her than we ever knew and i would just l

betty ford -- >> i know you have. >> she got press cancer and invited the press into her bedroom, patientancy reagan with arms control behind the scenes. laura bush, so important today, continuing her influence on afghan women, and, of course, the important role they achieved. >> that's right. you have made the most important point here of all, first ladies, throughout our history, they have led on issues beyond examining their lives and personal lives, and ackley calls it a gold standard of first lady biographies, because it delves into the impact of things we didn't know. that's why even for us our logo, which everybody will see today, if they go on www.flare.org, it's lighting the way of the legacies of these women that have contributed to our country. >> i look forward to being part of this and learning more. that does it for this edition of" andrea mitchell reports." kasie hunt is in for chuck todd up next on msnbc. unsubscribe. wait, wait, wait this helps the environment. it saves you money. i will take that money. for the environment. what's the #1 retinol brand used most by dermat

other first lady such as eleanor roosevelt, jackie kennedy, pat nixon, betty ford also guarded a lot of media coverage for their speeches and activities. and the fort interview here usgs on 60 minutes, you saw the controversial and surprising, although it's not what you said, like either through the belt, she talked about a lot of personal things. but she really humanized herself as a first lady and her family. and news releases, as i said begin that process, here is an example from a shall obama. barbara bush is photo holding -- it was powerful, it eventually helped americans conception on the disease, an influencer has been to support legislation to victims. we can reflect a powerful visuals, think about nancy reagan's appearance of correspond -- it helped turn her image which was suffering at the time. laura bush the filled a very important role for a country, reeling from 9/11 when she used the radio channel that was used by henry hoover many years before. she was the first first lady to do the presidential saturday morning radio press. she spoke about the taliban's brutality to