chris hopson saying that people might need to have a shot every single year for the next 10 years. i guess some might ask, is it about the welfare of humanity or the welfare of big pharmaceutical companies? i personally would like to end that line by saying, i don't think we need annual boosters because the evidence is you are immune immune beyond the year. why do you want to keep on immunizing? considering the rest of the world has not been immunized at all. and the line is very, very clear that if you do not suppress infections in india, africa, brazil, etc, you will get variance. and unfortunately, one of these variants may bypass vaccines and put us back to square one or a very, and that is more severe disease causing in all age groups and younger age groups, etc. so that's where our energies should be immunized, immunize the world. i talked about up antonia senior clinical at the university of exit medical school. we appreciate it. thank you for your time. thank you and thank you for your time as well. i appreciate you joining us for the monday program. my colleague a union o'

despite this, chris hopson says any decision on easing restrictions in england on 21stjune is finelyealth correspondent naomi grimley reports. it is the big question of the summer. can hospitals still cope with the numbers of people who will fall seriously ill from covid—i9 before the full effects of mass vaccination are felt? the encouraging news is that hospital admissions are well below the levels we saw in winter. and today one of those representing health trusts appeared to strike an optimistic note. what we think we can start to say now, based on that experience from those who have been at the front of this wave, is it looks as though the vaccines have broken the chain between catching covid—i9 and potentially being very seriously ill and potentially dying. but more surge testing is to begin on monday in parts of reading and wokingham because of the more transmissible delta variant first discovered in india. cases have been nudging up quite noticeably again as we mix more. yesterday over 6,000 were recorded. and some experts fear that could still translate into a problem until

chris hopson warned that the delta variant — first discovered in india — was still spreading, but her to be breaking the link between coronavirus cases and serious illness. 0ur health correspondent naomi grimley reports. it's the big question of the summer. can hospitals still cope with the numbers of people who will fall seriously ill with covid—i9 before the full effects of mass vaccination are felt? hospital admissions are well below the levels we saw in winter. and today one of those representing health trusts appeared to strike an optimistic note. it does look as though the vaccines have kind of broken the chain between catching covid—i9 and potentially being very, very seriously ill and potentially dying. bolton is the area hit hardest by covid's more transmissible delta variant, first discovered in india. looking at what's happening in hospitals is a gauge to whether the nhs in general will be able to cope. this graph shows the number of covid patients in bolton's hospitals over the last few months. you can see there are high peaks in november and again in january and february

. _ chris hopson is the chief executive of nhs providers. remind us who you represent.nt the — remind us who you represent. so we represent the 215 _ remind us who you represent. so we represent the 215 english _ remind us who you represent. sr we: represent the 215 english hospital, community, mental health and ambulance trusts, with all 215 trust as members. ambulance trusts, with all 215 trust as members— ambulance trusts, with all 215 trust as members. when you look at this booster programme, _ as members. when you look at this booster programme, what - as members. when you look at this booster programme, what do - as members. when you look at this booster programme, what do you l as members. when you look at this . booster programme, what do you want to hear from the government? weill. to hear from the government? well, victoria, to hear from the government? well, victoria. there _ to hear from the government? well, victoria, there are _ to hear from the government? well, victoria, there are really _ to hear from the government? in victoria, there are really import

chris hopson is the chief executive of nhs providers, which represents health authorities and trusts to him a little earlier about what the government needs to consider in its planning of the booster programme how long do the double jabs give protection for? if we do decide we are going to do boosters, are we going to mix and match? i have had a double astrazeneca, should i have pfizer or moderna? and how frequently do we need to tweak the vaccine? we know the flu jab is tweaked annually to take account of how much the flu has actually mutated. how often are we going to need to tweak these vaccines? two further questions are really important. can we combine covid—i9 jabs with flu jabs? and also, do we vaccinate children? it is interesting, at the moment, children definitely are in this delta variant a significant source of transmission, but if you want to let's get more from our political correspondent iain watson. presumably ministers are working on this now. the presumably ministers are working on this now. ., ,, . ., , ., , this now. the health secretary was s-ueakin this now. the

chris hopson for nhs providers, "the nhs is running hot at the moment, dealing with backlog recoveryill give way. i'm just i keen to explore with him, i know course i will give way. i'm just - keen to explore with him, i know the official opposition position will be to support this today but would he be happy to see the terminus on the 19th ofjuly or what he may be like to see it at the end of september when the entire adult population would be double jab, or perhaps to the end of next year, when he thinks —— in the g7 thinks the rest of the world will be vaccinated? flit -- in the g7 thinks the rest of the world will be vaccinated? of course i want to see _ world will be vaccinated? of course i want to see terminus _ world will be vaccinated? of course i want to see terminus day - world will be vaccinated? of course i want to see terminus day on - world will be vaccinated? of course i want to see terminus day on the l i want to see terminus day on the 19th, though i'm not sure we're going to because the honourable gentlemen, he is always well informed, he will have no doubt read the

we'rejoined now by chris hopson from nhs providers, which represent hospital trusts in england.ow, as you have 'ust in england? what we know, as you have just said. _ in england? what we know, as you have just said, is _ in england? what we know, as you have just said, is that _ in england? what we know, as you have just said, is that the - have just said, is that the infection rates due to the delta variant that originated in india has basically, the infection rates have been increasing in a number of different places. we know the hospitalisations, the rates of people coming into hospital in those areas are rising, but they are not rising very significantly. the bit i want to point interiors, effectively, if you look at the areas that were, in a sense, right at the front of this wave, so areas like bolton, what is interesting is that they have now got to the point where their community infections are starting to decline. so there has been a sort of early experimental actually, what would happen if you get this level of infection from this variant in that particular community? w