lakhdar capital advisors cofounder and ceo -- block tower capital advisors ceo matthew goetz joins usade a deal buying rival gamma point capital today. congrats on the deal. let's get started. can you give us some stats on how much you paid for it and for the return you noticed in gamma point, in particular as we have seen a lot of wild rides in the crypto market in the last year? matthew: great to be with you guys. one important piece for us in this was thinking about this strategically as something that augmented what we are already doing. what you guys have well articulated numerous times on the show. there are strategies as an industry matures that can navigate volatility better, or with a profile that is more appetizing to people. this specific acquisition was with that in mind. this firm called gamma point opened market infrastructure around what is called market mutual investing. regardless of whether crypto or bitcoin are going up or down, it is a strategy seeking to profit across those different market environments across the different market regimes. basically are hedging ou

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