jeff bennett at the white house and victoria soto. democrats say this thing isn't over, but it sure seems like it is. what can they do next? >> options here, plan a for progressive supporters of this bill was to unify the senate democrats behind it, and get that 50/50 vote and then hope that enough democrats support nuking the filibuster, the 60-vote threshold to push it through. that has not happened. there are several holdouts who are not budging, including kyrsten sinema, a co-sponsor of the bill. plan b was to win ten votes in the senate. that isn't happening. you heard mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader, say that the federal government simply does not need to weigh in on this at all. they're happy to let the states handle it. they don't believe there are restrictive voting laws in places like georgia and texas, they're fine with them. what can democrats do at this point if they have 50 votes, if there's a filibuster in place and ten republicans are not willing to do a major voting rights bill, they don't have good opti

john school of affairs, victoria de-francisco soto, kasie hunt and donny deutsch is with us as well. in terms of what happened at this conservative event with mike pence. these people who are screaming at the former vice president, it is on the concept that he didn't stop the process. that he's a traitor. they're saying traitor because he didn't stop the process of democracy. and this, again, and i'm not saying it, you know, to be whatever to cause -- to make waves here, but this is a cult. this is following a leader who is clearly trying to like build that following on lines. and they are following blindly. >> well, it is -- it is certainly not a political party that's aligned with conservative principles or values, it hasn't been that in a very long time. >> that's correct. >> when you have mike pence now insufficiently loyal to great leader that he's called a traitor and booed and heckled. mitt romney, a guy who has spent his entire life fighting for the republican party put himself and his family on the front lines getting attacked in 2012, having nasty ads saying he was responsi