>> so you know vladamir putin, you think he's a killer? >> uh-huh. no president has ever talked about putin hike that while in office. so that raises questions about what will happen here. and one of the biggest questions is the case of alexei navalny, the jailed putin correct, whose organizations were just shut down and banned from operating by a russian court deemed extremist. "outfront" now, a close friend of navalny, who has taken over his anti-corruption organization that just got banned. vladamir, i appreciate you coming back on. thank you for san diego up so late. what message does biden need to deliver, what does he need to say, what can he say to putin regarding navalny? >> well, i think first of all, we need to be realistic. the u.s. and russia have a lot of topics on the agenda. it's security issues, it's anti-terrorist fight, arms control, and of course, it's also navalny and political repression in russia. it's really difficult to imagine what those magic words that biden can say to putin to ensure freedom of navalny. but i'll give him t