i white america views this case, does it matter? ~ ., , , it matter?ere _ it matter? i think it absolutely does, i think there was - it matter? i think it absolutely does, i think there was an - it matter? i think it absolutely - does, i think there was an awakening with white americans for this case. clear brutality of it. when you think about the mass protest last year, if it wasn't for the protests from a multiracial coalition of people being outraged in america and around the world, if that didn't happen, you wouldn't have charges against derek chauvin. the local prosecutor didn't want to touch the case, he saw the video and he said, i don't see murder and that was totally disturbing to people, all of us, laypeople star murder and they wanted it charged appropriately. i think it matters. the only concern is will white americans think this verdict is the end or will they think it is the beginning? for me and my research if we have not changed policy, this isjust a symbolic victory and we need systemic change. symbolic victory and we need s stemic ch

is just a rational for the big lack of contentment among many in white america.hey have tapped into something very real. how they decided to expose it and exploit it has been very fake and fraught. with a lot of toxicity. but remember it's 56% of all republicans who believe that this was a fraud. this election. again, maybe that is because people don't identify as republican anymore. they don't want to own trump and all the trump. if you compare the reality to former president obama discussing why he didn't do more to shoot down lies in office. you get something interesting. listen. >> i write about the emergence of the tea party. and we can see that happening with sarah palin. a proto-type for the politics that led to the tea party that in turn led to trump. and we're seeing today. there were times where calling it out would have given me great satisfaction personally. but, it wouldn't have necessarily won the political day in terms of me getting a bill passed. a will the of times one of the ways i would measure it would be is it more important for me to tell a

white. african americans fought in every american war. but black faces and battle have been almost entirely whitewashed for america's visual history . especially at the movies. john wayne is the epitome of the american g. from world war 2 to vietnam, hollywood has consistently shown the great white hero, saving moore. but hollywood got its history wrong in getting the true story. in fact, the 1st american killed by the british at the boston massacre was a black man. i was a black man in the attic. christmas attics was the 1st and long line of african americans who served and died for their country shot before you saw the fire all hell breaks loose in 2008, director spike lee told the story of the real life. 92nd infantry division, so called buffalo soldiers, who fought in italy in world war 2. faith would you bought them and the film was the 1st to show black americans in combat and glory, dental washington. place a soldier in the 1st all black company in the civil war. films with african american soldiers, front and center, are still the exception stripe son, a nigger like pits unable most studio on. and most filmmakers have been wh

and until the majority of white america is truly committed to the dismantling of racism, which is called continue in the struggle and fight. cuz we're not going to accept the system who struggle trust structures and practices and policy that continue to show outcome where blacks are at the bottom and alive as it can be. i want to get to the goal for reparations in the work of the be love campaign in a 2nd, but it was another thing that is change. so certain liberals say is that they will black people in positions of power and they have been in recent years. who, what is your father? mean, when he said at the time back it back then he said to the majority of black political leaders do not send to prominence on the shoulders of mass support most selected by white elevated by white. is that error over or are there still people in positions of a degree of power who aren't living up to the values of martin luther king junior? we call that to ensure that there's one person that represent a particular group that called minority. so that's how committed and some of them feel the case in this nat

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it's just as real in white america and in some ways, being fuel for a sense of being aggrieved, being a victim, as mike says, that has people ready to attack a capitol. i see more of that coming, not less. >> well, i mean, if you put those two things together, you have a double legitimacy crisis. in other words, you could have a situation where the left won't accept the results of the next election because we look at all this hanky-panky going on with voter suppression, et cetera, et cetera. also the right might not accept it because of all the conspiracy theories. you've never had that. you have a legitimacy crisis when one side won't accept the outcome. when you have a situation where literally neither i side -- you now have real termites eating into the foundation of civil society, eating into the foundation of a functioning democratic republic, in ways i haven't seen before. and i think it's really concerning. i do believe that joe manchin has the fate of the republican in his hands. and he says i don't want to blow up the system. the system is being blown up. the arsonists are al

so they put the blame on white america and tell black american that racism is permanent. there is nothing you can do about it. >> laura: biden is doing this with racial division. reaction? >> yes, they understand that class never worked in america. we were always upwardly mobile. we had a fluid, dynamic economy. once you fixate on race and saw you are a victim no matter what your class position, it doesn't matter that oprah is one of the wealthiest people in the world or meghan markle talks from her estate, they will be oppressed. you never get it over because race is always with you. we have a vibrant black middle-class. if you say they are not privileged because they are black, you have a way of dividing people. donald trump is not in office now. the covid operation warp speed vaccination program worked. so covid is dying down. people thought if they turned their attention to the biden program he will leave intact the middle east policies and the border. he didn't. we have chaos at the border and inflation looming and a mess in the middle east. this is a big traction --

if you listen to james baldwin, james baldwin explains clearly that white america was tortured by their participation in slavery and they, themselves, needed healing from this evil encounter in terms of interacting with other human beings. so baldwin is the person. i think we should be listening to right now. not for black america's healing through reparations or recognition of juneteenth but the larger group needs healing around this too. that is the last frontier. reparation and the white population in general coming to a place where race no longer matters in institutionally, structurally, legally, and other ways in our society. >> professor taylor, let me bring in congresswoman lee here. is this viable? you are there in washington, d.c. for the bay area. is it viable to talk about reparations in our lifetime? >> we must talk about reparations. repairing the damage. 401 years ago the first enslaved africans were brought to these shores. we went through 250 years of being enslaved. then jim crow, you have mass incarceration, you have disparities in health care. we see what happened wit

we cannot raise and us, we cannot get white america comfortable with the history of white america andain and the reality of how we got here if people don't know what happened. and there's a big debate happening right now about how to discuss our history in schools and i think that this is absolutely critical and it's a critical fight that in our schools, that young americans are it's hot about the great things in america. the sacrifices we here on memorial day and we've put that forth in our country and also worsens. and until we're fully aware of that, then hopefully we can move to this next that. we're always going to have this portion of people that are gonna believe what they want to believe in your always gonna have people who are taking it but to get a critical mass as caroline said aware and comfortable, we need to educate folks about it and so i think biden's doing tomorrow is a good step in that regard. >> i can't think our guests enough. tough topic and honest conversation. caroline randall williams, tim miller. greatly appreciate you spending part of your holiday monday eve

how can you heal if your plight was an acknowledged and how can white america rethink its relationship with its fellow americans? if it doesn't know the truth of its history so, so that was an important thing. and just an aside, we spoke about this earlier. when i came to germany, i was really impressed by the fact that there are these markers all over the city to let you know where jewish people were kidnapped and, and that they were killed. and there's memorials. and there's talks about it in language school and it's something that the united states has been very slow to do . so before you can even talk about reparations, you have to talk about the fact that this happened. it would be great if the people of greenwood, the, those people who are more than 100 years old, over in our peace, if they were given reparations. if the victims, the sentence were given reparation, of course bite. and as you said, did not talk about that, but he did link the black racial wealth gap with his his economic plan, which would focus a lot of government money, contractors, for example, towards black nei

promising over the past 60 years have all failed and because they failed they put the blame on white america and tell black america that racism is permanent, there's nothing you can do about it. >> biden doing with race what the marxist communists always do with class. better results than capitalism or the free market, their leaders, demonization, but now it is the racial division that has to be stoked. reaction. >> they understand class never worked in america because we were always upwardly mobile, we had fluid dynamic but once you fix it on race, you say you are a victim no matter what, all of a sudden you can say doesn't matter the press one of the wealthiest people in the world or megan markel has a $15 million state or the obamas are multimillionaire speakers they are always going to be victimized no matter how wealthy or successful they are they are going to be oppressed by somebody so it is a more powerful indictment of america because you never get over it because race is something that should be incidental to who we are but when you make it the signature and it is with you forever

and that it does feel like we're in sort of a south africa moment where you've got a part of white america against this coming future which is a more plult cultural america. what the hell do we do do about that? if it's that bad now, what if we're at 2040? is it going to be pure -- are we in deep civil war at that point? >> i actually don't believe that that is going to happen. i mean, look, the idea that we're going to reach a sort of demographic majority that is non-white, i actually don't think that's really true. the history of the united states is that people who are sort of excluded from whiteness are eventually absorbed into it. that is the case with italians and jews who were not considered white the way that the architects of america's immigration laws in the 1920s that were designed to exclude africans, asians and jews and italians and greeks, people of mediterranean descent, they did not consider them white in the same way that most americans were white. but then something happened during world war ii. there was this great melding and all of a sudden the idea of whiteness expand

white. african americans fought in every american war. but black faces in battle have been almost entirely whitewashed from america's visual history . especially at the movie, john wayne is the epitome of the american g i. from world war 2 to vietnam, hollywood has consistently shown the great white hero saving lore. but hollywood got its history wrong in getting the true story. in fact, the 1st american killed by the british, the boston massacre was a black man. i was a black man, and this is addict. christmas addicts was the 1st and long line of african americans who served and died for their country. shot him before you saw the fire all hell breaks loose in 2008, director spike lee told the story of the real life. 92nd infantry division, the so called buffalo soldiers who fought in italy in world war to pay for them. and these film was the 1st to show black americans in combat. and in glory, dental washington, place a soldier in the 1st all black company in the civil war, films with african american soldiers, front and center, are still the exception. stripes done. and they're like pitts, unable most studios on. and most filmmaker

white america does not want to hear a black man telling them that they have a problem. >> henry lewis gates. >> yeah, it is interesting tonight. they don't see what's wrong. i don't see any fix coming any time soon. that's just me. i look forward to your conversations. >> democrats need to learn how to throw a punch. >> you have to figure out how to fend or how to return it or at least learn not to get hit. >> stop it, i don't want to offend anybody. the current democrat s or the current ones. i don't know who they are. bipartisanship for the sake , bipartisanship is on the line right now. what makes you think they're going to stand up and do the right thing. >> i don't know if they are talking it. the space i have not heard explored it is do a one off. >> yep, i don't agree with that. >> or at least return the rules to what they used to be to the no nostalgia -- make it harder to filibuster. >> anyway, i love you. >> i love you d. lemon. >> talk to you later. >> this is "don lemon tonight," what we are hearing from former president barack obama should make every single american sit u

and universities it's become of article of faith that we are not to the indelible stain of whiteness, americald be a utopia. only whiteness stops in the way. that is why we must abolish it. as harvard magazine put it, abolished the white race. only then can we be happy. lots of people seem to believe the spirit they are not all bad people, just as not everyone who believes in samuel cartwright in the 1890s. they are looking for meaning in our lives. if you hand them a unified theory of everything, some percentage of them is going to buy wholesale pier they were nice people at jonestown in guyana, they just didn't know any better. it is their leaders that you wonder about. and when they talk about this new iteration of scientific racism, when they talk about whiteness, they sound very much like old-fashioned bigots. take this guy for example. his name is eric michael dyson. he's a tenured professor, at some stupid college or another. he lives in an exclusively white neighborhood, he goes on television a lot. watch as he talks about race and ask yourself if he sounds different from david do? he

pharmacy and white privilege and that cannot be removed from america. and our history shows that that's not true. we have made progress, tremendous progress toward the more perfect union that our founders, founding fathers talk about in the constitution and other documents. critical race theory goes against that. it says we are inherently racist. there's nothing we can do about it and our children, our most precious resources are left to deal with just being in a state of oppressor or oppressed, that that same status cannot be removed from them and that's not how we move our society forward. >> john: supporters of critical race theory say that it teaches antiracism. but you said last week of school board meeting that it actually is racist in and of itself. let me just read back what you said. you said "telling my child or any child that they are in a permanent or oppressed status in america because they are black is racist and saying that white people are automatically above me, my children, or any child is racist as well. this is not something that we

example, that monetize and capitalize on stoking the fear and resentment of a white population that is witnessing a changing americasten to him talk about his experiences in the white house, talking about race, with now everything that we have experienced here just in the last year or so. britney, what did you think about what he said? >> it made me think when he's speaking it's not just the message, it's the messenger. when i was going traveling the country 2020 and talking to white voters particularly in places like iowa, even they were uncomfortable getting really down and dirty talking about race because all of it has to be self ref ren shall. and human beings don't want to confront their own biases. i understand. we all get that way. especially hearing from a black man, people get -- voters get defensive and republicans know that and they can run off of that. that's why you go into the suburbs and fear monger about blm having guns and coming into your house and making you feel uncomfortable because fear is a really powerful motivator. you can empathize why obama might have been gun shy talking about race after

mary bruce at the white house. >>> america's top general firing back against republican critics of the military's diversity efforts. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff in answering a question saying, "i want to understand white rage and i'm white." jon karl is here tonight. >>> tonight, school and free speech. the supreme court ruling in favor of a cheerleader who had been punished, suspended for a vulgar snapchat message sent while offcampus. what the court said. terry moran tonight. >>> late today, the other high profile legal case. britney spears and her bombshell testimony. for the first time, speaking for 20 minutes in court about the conservatorship and the battle with her father over control of her own money. spears telling the court she's been exploited and that, quote, i deserve a life. i deserve the same rights as anyone. >>> and the new list tonight of cars, which ones create the most american jobs, made with the most american parts? and america strong and the one salute you won't soon forget. >>> good evening and it's great to have you with us here on a wednesday nig

not just the police but there is a history of white vigilante violence but really the virus of white america in the form of lynch mobs that extend over the course of the 20th century. there are the mobs of homeowners that tried to him black people into black neighborhoods but there is a kind of wanton violence among white people directed at black people that is unbelievable. that is just outside the law. so you capture this when you talk about robert rhodes in north carolina. there is no law for black people and the language that black people seem to understand is the language of violence. so you have both issues happening. one is that policing is a source of oppression and 2, that white people only appear to be responsive to violence and in both of these ways, black resistance is legitimized for you, is that right? >> i think with robert f williams, he's basically saying given the fact that we are living under not only oppressive white supremacist policies but an oppressive state law enforcement wisdom, the only way that we can ensure the safety of our communities is to arm ourselves and to

america. it sure is good to see you. >>> questions at the white house about reparations for black americans onars ago a white mob obliterated the prosperous area known as black wall street in oklahoma destroying blocks of homes and businesses. president joe biden acknowledging the tragedy and announcing steps to close the economic divide for black americans but not mentioning reparations. reparations are, you know it is a polarizing topic. you say one way to heal the country is to pay reparations to the descendants of the tulsa massacre. why is that congresswoman? >> first of all, maybe the word repair and amend would be a better word for so many non-black americans. ropee reparations is a welcomed term and a healing term. i do believe the president is a racial equity president. i applaud him for that. the proclamation to highlight the first president in the history of the united states to do that. indicated that he wished all-americans would stand and to take a moment to reflect upon how we can all end systemic racism. in my minds and in the minds of so many i spent four days in tulsa. seeing

cannot expose our children to information and they turn around and lawn after culture war with white americal should learn and decide critically what to do with that information this is shameful behavior by ted cruz and other republicans. i don't believe ted cruz's haircut is that good, by the way. >> well said, david jolly. i don't know, someone, maybe his wife likes his haircut, i don't know. always a pleasure. you are the best. thank you so much. >>> and with apologies to williams shakespeare, how this might turn into the summer of discontent, some new reporting on the manhattan district attorney's case next. t attorney's case next business, but all my employees need something different. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this... your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. we cut to downtown, your sales rep lisa has to send some files, asap! so basically i can pick the right plan for each employee... yeah i should've just led with that... with at&t business... you can pick the best plan for each employee and only pay for the features they need. with sc

and the panthers with their guns sent a shockwave through white america. and this was where you get this narrative. this bifurcated narrative that had martin luther king and as nonviolence but remember the violence that the state, remember because what they were doing was disrupting a power structure. that was seen as violent. but it was a way to try and pick these two against each other. king was doing it the right way and the panthers were doing it the wrong way . but when you think about the violence that the civil rights movement faced here in the south, it was seen as doing it the wrong way because they weren't being violent and accepting jim crow. >> i've had a few conversations with the film judas and the black messiah came out about fred hampton and some of the things around there and it's been so interesting that so many young people don't have any real awareness of the black panther party. and how much of that conversation, how unique it was in that moment to have something like that happen. i think it's what dated in people's minds that that pot

how important is it that we note how white america views this case? does it matter? kind of awakening, if you will, with white americans for this case, right? the clear brutality of it. and i think when you think about the mass protests that happened last year, if it wasn't for those protests, which were kind of a multi—racial coalition of people being outraged, notjust in america, but around the world, if that didn't happen we wouldn't even have charges against chauvin. the local prosecutor did not want to touch this case. you saw the video, he said to be public, "i don't see murder here." he saw the video, he said to be public, "i don't see murder here." and that was totally disturbing to people. all of us laypeople saw murder and they wanted it charged appropriately, so i think it does matter that there is some kind of multi—racial coalition. the only concern is that will white americans think this verdict is the end or will they think it is a beginning? and for me, in my research, if we have not changed policy, if we have not changed how officers are held account

he was trying to make sure that he made white america as comfortable as possible, and they learned they that that was virtually impossible to do when bad-faith actors were out there saying, oh, he's a race hustler. he's using the race card every day. listen to that answer about skip gates where he says, i don't know the role that race played in this. well, we all know the role race played in that incident. but at the time, that's how he responded to it and the back lash was still very swift. it highlights how much times have changed in this country on this issue of race and he did not benefit from the kind of different way that we talk about race and think about race today. >> he learned in that moment and, look, whether you endorse the lesson or not, the takeaway was, i can talk about race but do i also want to talk about other things? do i want to talk about agenda items like health care and, you know, u.s. foreign policy and orienting against the influence of china. and it seems like what he took away from that question was pretty clear. now, though, times have changed a little bit

america. pronamel boosts enamel's natural absorption of calcium and phosphate - helping keep teeth strong, whitee so-called browning of america claims to threaten the status quo. whiteness and white supremacy. one white identity that has consistently captured america's imagination -- italian-american. historically philly has been home to a large italian-american community. but gentrification doesn't just push out black folks. and now new philadelphia struggles with its identity as an italian-american stronghold. nothing symbolizes that better than this. the statue of christopher columbus in a box. as many philly residents are now saying they have no interest in celebrating a colonizer who was lost. maybe we can ship it back to italy. has anybody still got the receipt? so now columbus is in a box. what to do. i asked a local italian-american journalist for his opinion. so you're italian-american? >> yes. yes, yes, yes. jason peters. it's very -- mwah. i never really loved like the italian-american thing. like most of it's just watching goodfellas and just like saying, muzerell instead of mozzarel

reparations which was part of a national mood in the '60s and '70s such that it isn't true that white americar the powers that be never acknowledged the horrors that we went through. it's just not true. something happened in the '60s and '70s that we're beginning to forget. maybe we can take some lessons from those things and do it again better although i'm not sure if any of us know exactly what we could do to undo what we're now calling systemic racism. these inequities, what do you do? it's really, really complicated. so i just think that we have a lot to think about. >> yeah. listen, you're always pro provo provocative. we'll have you back. thank you. important conversation. i want to continue it. john mcwhorter. >> thank you, don. >>> so it is the lie that won't quit, and now it is compounding even more, okay? dan abrams is going to weigh in on the big lie and the new conspiracies popping up seemingly every day. >>> plus former president barack obama has an interesting take on aliens in my "take this." >> i would hope that the knowledge that there were aliens out there would solidify peo

i am going to channel my inner white woman and i'm going to give white america some advice. lls you you have white privilege or you should be ashamed, do what we do. i'm here because i worked hard, i started, i went to college, i auditioned. if you want my spot, come get it. i'm not just going to come give it to you. the color of my skin has nothing to do with it. every time -- you only got this job because you are black, i'm like, black -- i did that. so start fighting back with facts and not apologizing for something you have absolutely nothing to deal with. >> i really love that. i just love that. but i'm sitting here, it's the first time we've been on stage together, and basically scared to death. >> greg: don't worry, he's going to kill me. >> not quite there yet america. [laughter] >> when i'm in the alley, you go there. [laughter] >> it's hard on my chest. i promise. >> greg: you have a big heart on your chest. >> i told you. [laughter] >> greg: what if i didn't write that joke? what if i blame it on one of my writers. >> i know tom, i know kat. i know you did it. >> g

because white america doesn't want to hear a black man telling them. i mean, that was a no brainer, by the way. you got a harvard professor, on his own front porch. but i'm just saying, it was interesting tonight. where, yeah, they all -- they all see what's wrong. i just don't see any fix coming, anytime soon. that's just me. but i look forward to your conversation with valerie jarrett. >> learn how to throw a punch. and to be -- >> got to learn how to take a punch. you got to learn how to fend with the next blow is coming the next time. and you have to figure out how to return it. or at least learn not to get hit. you got to get some more floyd mayweather in you. >> i didn't want to offend anybody. that's it. all of them. all of them. the current democrats. the current ones, who, i don't know what they are, democrats, look, they need to -- as i said, bipartisanship for the sake of bipartisanship is empty. our democracy is on the line, right now. and that's what we need to be focused on. not just, well, this is what we are going to do. look, if you do

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white was supreme. you would have to count it down to the drop. >> when you're talking about the browning of america, it'sike we're talking about folk who is are mixed race and by racial and people of color and we're all looking at ourselves. we're all thinking about other people and whiteness is over here untouched. we're not the problem. it's whiteness. so when you talk about white supremacy, we're talking about spectrum of power with whiteness at the top, blackness at the bottom. all kinds of colors in between. see, if i'm close to whiteness, that means i'm better than you other dark skinned negros, right? that i will have more access to power and privilege. i'm not just talking about white people. we know that you're black, yes. but do not act as if your light skin gives you access to privilege. people say, i'm black, just like you. no, you're not. in the same way we're asking white folks to acknowledge their privilege. if we really want to dismantle white supremacy, we have to be willing to push back against privilege. people have to be willing to give up some privilege. but you have to be first to r

white, the african americans have fought in every american war. but black faces and battle have been almost entirely whitewashed for america's visual history. especially at the movies. john wayne is the epitome of the american g. i. from world war 2 to vietnam, hollywood has consistently shown the great white hero saving lore. but hollywood got its history wrong, in not getting the true story. in fact, the 1st american killed by the british at the boss, the massacre was a black man. i was a black man and addict christmas addicts was the 1st and long line of african americans who served and died for their country and shot him before you saw the fire all hell breaks loose in 2008 director spike lee told the story of the real life 92nd infantry division, so called buffalo soldiers, who fought in italy in world war to take them and leave. film wasn't the 1st to show black americans in combat. and in glory, dental washington, place a soldier in the 1st all black company in the civil war, films with african american soldiers, front and center, are still the exception. stripes on like pitts, unable most studios on. and most filmmakers had been whit

we can't raise awareness and get white america comfortable with the history of black america and painw we got here if people don't know what happened. there's a big debate now how to discuss history in schools and this is absolutely critical. a critical fight, in our schools that young americans are taught about the great things about america, the sacrifices, we're here on memorial day, that people have put forth for this country, but also our sins. until people are fully aware of them, then hopefully we can move to the next step. always have people who believe what they want to believe, people who are bigoted. but to get a critical mass as caroline said aware and comfortable, we have to educate about it. what biden is doing is good in that regard. >> greatly appreciate you spending part of your holiday monday evening with us. >>> coming up, general barry mccaffrey is here to talk about what he calls a very dangerous period as u.s. troops withdraw from afghanistan, even before we talk about domestic conditions in this country with the general, coming up. ♪ welcome back ♪ ♪ to that sam

that america is a white dominated society. not a damn thing we can do about it unless we burn it down, clean slate and start all over again. and by the way, white people have no say in it since they did all of this in the first place so it is a racist -- sort of black separatist ideology that is now being mainstreamed and leo terrell joe biden just signed a bunch of executive orders where we're going to be training people in the federal government, federal contractors, our public school systems, all over our country joe biden says yes people are going to learn this. now what do you make of that? >> first of all let me tell you it is very scary and scary on educational front and i'll get to that in caked let me tell you right now it turns civil rightings upside down. again i go back to that eloquent monologue you talked about. i became a civil rights attorney because of doctor king. i've been a civil rights attorney for 30 years. we're supposed to hopefully live in a color of blind society if you listen to dr. king not with the

. >> i think that too often black elected officials have conned white america telling them what they hear and letting them go to bed feeling it's cool. and it's not cool. >> those things necessary to protect everyone. >> there was no one truth. the blacks, of course, called that a murder. the jews called it an accident. there were two completely different realities. >> david dinkins was trying to please everybody, and he was being pulled in all these different directions trying to prove that he wasn't just a black mayor. >> your mayor works for you. you have commission brown working for you guys. >> similar tensions are simmering in cities across america. legions of young black men and women, unemployed and losing hope, believe they have been abandoned by the larger society, and they are angry. >> new york city is symptomatic of what's happening in the nation in the early 1990s and what one writer described as a season of racial tension. it really is complicated by the fact that you have african-americans dealing with stifling poverty and inequality and police injustice being perpetr

columnist kevin cruise, writes ted cruz's erroneous definition of critical race theory explains white america apparently confused about critical race theory and the kkk. i'm assuing you agree with that. i mean, in terms of today's society, how do you define critical race theory and how do republicans in general get it wrong? >> well, people like senator cruz, they're part of what has also been a long tradition. a lawn tradition of deniers when it comes to the realities of racism and white supremacy, even in the slavery period. there were people who said black people enjoy being enslaved. some people claimed slavery wasn't as comprehensive as it was. in the jim crow period, there were arguments jim crow wasn't what it was. so senator cruz is part of this long tradition of denying the realities of race in this country and even more, exploiting racism for political purposes. that's what he is doing here. the idea that the klan, the klan lynched black people. the klan participated in initiative race riots that murdered black people. the idea that teaching the reality of the ways in which racism i