i was on my way to the staff meeting that condi rice who was the national security advisor. i what the under her has a special assistant president bush. the 1st playing had the 1st tower and we all thought that maybe playing lost its way was an accident. and then as the meeting started, an officer from the communication room walked into the situation room, where we had that staff meeting and i was sitting to the left of candy. you said a 2nd plane as had a 2nd. our heard the 2nd tower and she stood up close the book and walked out there and we all rushed behind her literally that day. and the events associated with it also changed my life in a fund a mental way. i'm still in some ways dealing with so was i remember very vividly and as the person who was born in afghanistan, you're in quite a unique position, providing the text originated from your homeland and you're in the white house. yes . but bread and bush said to me at one point that if i could quote him, that may be god that the hand and this that i was there this time. and someone more than enough canister on who kne

rumsfeld: well i remember calling president bush and vice president cheney, colin powell, condi rice, and jerry bremer, you know, maybe one or two others. and then i sent it out to an awful lot a memo, a separate memo out to a lot of people. the reason i did it, is because this had not been done before. suddenly there's going to be this web site which exists now, rumsfeld.com, where someone can go in and people will go in, they are going in, in large numbers and i thought the people ought to know that their names are in somebody's memo's and i didn't want them to be surprised. i told all of them i doubted if there was a single memo in there that referenced them that they hadn't already seen. i mean it would be something that i would have sent to them earlier or they'd sent to me or where we were discussing something. so i don't think that there would be any surprises, the only surprise would be that suddenly a whole bunch of people unknown to me or to them, would be going into the web site and seeing these memos and reading them. lamb: i saw a couple of cases, where a memo was classif

rumsfeld: well i remember calling president bush and vice president cheney, colin powell, condi rice, and jerry bremer, you know, maybe one or two others. and then i sent it out to an awful lot a memo, a separate memo out to a lot of people. the reason i did it, is because this had not been done before. suddenly there's going to be this web site which exists now, rumsfeld.com, where someone can go in and people will go in, they are going in, in large numbers and i thought the people ought to know that their names are in somebody's memo's and i didn't want them to be surprised. i told all of them i doubted if there was a single memo in there that referenced them that they hadn't already seen. i mean it would be something that i would have sent to them earlier or they'd sent to me or where we were discussing something. so i don't think that there would be any surprises, the only surprise would be that suddenly a whole bunch of people unknown to me or to them, would be going into the web site and seeing these memos and reading them. lamb: i saw a couple of cases, where a memo was classif

the black community and a couple that you point out alice harris, sweet alice as you call her and condi rice who made a living -- and became a partner and helped them to this day i mean she just tells it -- >> guest: she is a force of nature. >> host: you also had a couple of guys officers a.j. thomas and lieutenant. >> guest: fred booker, man fred. >> host: it reminded me of some my experience is that you were able to build those relationships that have been strained for so long. talk a little bit about that and why is it so important that the police department really takes an action step to reach out and develop strong relationships pushing the lever committees of color? >> the lack of trust the acceleration of lack of trust which cause george floyd's tragic death in so many things going on in the country this time and the resurgence of systemic racism in so much of the politics in the country that i learned early on that my experience the importance of not judging people and i was benefited by great college courses i took thanks to the federal government something that i deeply believed i

bill clinton help [indiscernible] go back into power and condi rice went there with support from the u.n. to talk about democracy. is this administration looking at the historic nature of what administrations have done when it comes to haiti and how we are dealing with haiti today? >> history as a part of how any leader deals with foreign governments. sometimes it is embedded in how they think about the united states. what's important to know and understand is that we have provided $75 million for a wide range of issues, including governance, education, and strengthening of pre-election activities before the last week, january. and we have long been working directly with lifting up, empowering, training the haitian law enforcement capacity. this is a situation though in haiti where the determination of what the next steps are and what the path forward will be is going to be up to the people of haiti. when is it safe to have elections? how will they work together to figure out their needs and how can we work with them to assess those needs and meet them here from the government. in th

mike talked to condi rice that morning. about 1:00 that afternoon, we were called to the oval office to see the president. we had seen him quite a bit since the attacks the previous tuesday, but we had not seen him since we had gotten this assignment, obviously. so we were brought in and he asked how the drafting was going and i am sure mike, speaking for the group, said it is going fine, mr. president, but we are not quite there. he looked at us and said, americans have questions. they want to know who attacked our country. they want to know why they hate us. they want to know what is expected of us now, and if we are at war, how we are going to fight and win the war. from there, we had a structure for the speech itself. if you go back and look at that speech to congress the following thursday, the president went through those questions and because, i've always thought, because he gave us that basic construct at the beginning, we were able to finish the draft that day. we didn't have a conclusion ready. he allowed us to mo