miller, michael starr hopkins. let's get to it let's go to lawyer number one mike chase. so tell me what does today's ruling mean? >> this is a really without prejudice. basically meeting based on the previous filing the court has said the motion to remove jamie spears will not be granted. before why? >> without president means it can be refiled again. before you can do can i do? >> you can write a shotgun with me for my license is going to be on the line here so it's my malpractice insurance is going to be involved. think we should take heart because if -- like the fundamental thing if britney can get a lawyer of her choosing which is a very important thing than she can file the petition. she did somewhat in her corner someone she can trust is listing to her nothing preventing her from filing a hearty petition to have these restrictions removed. that begins with having vigorous counsel. kennedy: this is incredible. the printing they interview the guy who originally but the judge dismissed above a medical you can't

off the host or attorney democrat strategist senior vice president of firehouse strategies, michael starr hopkins. and young americans for liberty chief of staff, sean themea. i bet he's on the right team here, let's go gentlemen. that's what they are saying. some people are very confused here. does this open the door to sort of a mass revolt from employees either at the federal level or private employees who simply do not want to be dictated to about the vaccine? >> , will definitely seat loss at you can bet on that. i can't wait to see how that weighs out. the courts will definitely have their hands full. i'm totally pro vaccinated. i got vaccinated and have been vocal about it but what really bothers me today, kennedy, is this bananas cdc guidance. okay i'm not a doctor in my over reacting? i have a colleague on the radio show today he was similar. if weeks if not must be heard from the pro- vaccine crowd, myself included if you go into your part and get your jab you can go back to normal part this our ticket back to normalcy. i repeated that at nausea and on my show, on various platforms. the

the man panel's >>, guy benson, michael starr hopkins and sean.le bit concerning for the governor. for a while it looked like he had a double-digit lead over the recall effort in terms of california not wanting to toss him out. but that has changed. and now throwing him out with they are within three percentage points of having a majority of voters think should be tossed. >> yes, most angry and not just hanging back they might determine this race. it is the one -- to step they have to decide yes or no and getting rid of him. and then if they decide yes it goes to the top vote-getter of the rest comes in and becomes governor. on that front there is a debate coming up, caitlyn jenner has been plagued by accusations she is not a serious candidate. she'll be skipping this debate allegedly to go to some reality tv thing and australia. probably not going to help jumpstart that 3% support level. kennedy: she is skipping it and larry elder is skipping it too. larry only wants to debate the governor i would like to see a debate between those two. even if l

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