and edward snowden, in his released document showed it to be a base that spied right across asia. right across china. right across russia. a major spy operation. not a defensive operation. aspire operation. so at the moment it probably is the major spy base on, on, on china, or, and all the other imagine the enemies of, of the united states. and it was, of course, julian assigned you, helped snowden avoid the clutches of the united states, perhaps ga, just very quickly. what have you heard about what is happening in the garage case? biden doubling down. it seems on a 175 years for the world's most famous journalist. there was some wishful thinking for a while, but the bible and administration may not carry on trumps pursuit of julianna songs. it is. and it's now heading for the high court in london, where it'll probably happen in, in the autumn pap september, october in which the high court will decide whether there is any credibility in the us, appealing against this decision to let truly in go my own senses and i feel slightly nervous about making this prediction. it's julie and

deactivated and the national center for missing and exploited children notified whistleblower edward snowden as weighed in on the issue condemning the tech. john's new policy. unbelievable apple. now circulating a propaganda letter describing the internet white opposition to the decision to start checking the private files on every iphone against a secret black list as the screeching voices of the minority. this has become a scandal. to say that we are disappointed by apples plans is an understatement. apples compromise on end to end encryption, may piece government agencies in the u. s. and broad. but is a shocking about face for users who rely on the companies, leadership and privacy and security. we discuss the issue on why they're on medication for august. what kind of algorithm are they going to use? so it is able to scan billions of images and then segregated something that is not, let's say a bear skin rug photo or some form of accept. i don't know what except the bowl nudity is, but something that is innocent, something that is not in any way nefarious. how is it going to be able to

another well known whistleblower waited on twitter. edward snowden condemned the cause decision and praised hale. wilson got reaction from a former us drone operator who was so lifted the lead on what his work involved. random bryant says the choice between ignoring civilian killings and making the public aware his conscience made up his mind. it's really a war on, through the night just whistleblowers. we've got people that have been propagating this war over in the middle east for almost 2 decades now. the government is at war with its own people. if you can't, you're part of the machine. the car runs this machine. yeah. you have to bear witness for not just some unfeeling part of the machine you're feeling. and eventually you have to find yourself in the middle of that storm and be like, you know, this, i have to do, i have to do this because if i don't do it, who's going to i find it strange that conscientious individuals that are inside the program that are trying to hold us accountable for the obvious blayton war crimes that we ourselves are doing are being punished. and it seems that

really the misuse of the espionage act, which has been continued and other well, no. whistler, edward snowden, commented on the case to on twitter. he condemned the court's decision and praised hale. we got reaction as well from brandon bryant. he's a former us drone operator himself who also lifted the lead on what is work involved. he told us in the choice between ignoring civilian killings or making the public away, it was his conscience that helps him make up his mind. it's really a war on truth, not just whistle blowers. we've got people that have been propagating this war over in the middle east for almost 2 decades. now. the government is at war with its own people. if you can, you're part of the machine. the car runs this machine, yet you have to bear witness for the not just unfeeling part of the machine, your feelings. and eventually you have to find yourself in the middle of that storm and be like, you know, this. i have to do. i have to do this because if i don't do it, who is going to, i find it strange that conscientious individuals that are inside the program that are trying to

i mean edward snowden, who you were, he thinks, help to get to safety. and moscow said, take your sim card out when you tell what when you want total privacy. i mean is that what we're supposed to do? you have to always expect that your, your phone has been metal and i have been it's very to the texting ordinary people . it's not that easy to see. actually a years ago, 11 expert in the field told me, well, i mean, the only symbol that you can sort of read into your phone has been tampered with is the fact that the battery will die and go down to where you quick. that means that somebody is basically using remote to your, your, your, your phone, your device spying to when i was doing regular reporting, member hearing about how the drug dealers were operating with old mobile phones when they would be cigna because they were afraid of being under surveillance by police, they will put their phones into the freezer that had the discussion. so i mean, you should simply always assume that this is basically taking away your privacy and security, or nobody is sec

as we saw when edward snowden, the documents were weak, but in the breast of these countries there, there is no regulation. and the international community i think is more or less united in the call for some type of regulation, which would need also some type of transparency right now. this company very secretive denies everything that we've ever said about it and others. and so there's no way to even even vet what they're doing right now. and that would be part of any kind of international regime that looked at this industry and tried to regulate it to some degree. dana just is one of the other elements that come up recently is the potential complicity of a number of americans in this story. even former obama administration officials that had been advisors or had been consultants to the holding company of n s o group. this had been reported in the guardy and also the american prospect. so is there a complicity, a culpability of certain americans in this, in this story of the, of the, of the actual software company itself. this is not unusual. you know, look at every general just about th