fauci. he and dr. birx came as two of the characters, mini bios or magazine profiles on both of them and learned so much about dr. birx when she was young and competing in science fairs. do you believe it's an accurate reading that they're the most complex figures and seeing such complex figures grappling will such different input and you can talk about this. dr. birx is a military person so chain of command is of utmost importance to her. how did that affect them or maybe complicate, again, how they responded to this virus? >> we spent so much time talking about dr. birx between the two of us. i mean, we really wanted to try to figure her out and it's funny, we talked to people who have known her for 40 years and they still don't completely understand her. i mean, she's an incredibly complicated person. i feel she's a very private person. she does-- she doesn't really flinch when the president said-- she was sitting beside them and he said we need to open by easter and the whole bleach thing and she d

fauci, he and dr.irx came -- became two of those controversial character controversial character in the book. profiles in both of them and doesn't so much about dr. birx when she was young, when she was competing in science fairs. i'm curious you agree that's an accurate reading that they were the most complex characters in the soul disaster? being such complex figures who were grappling with such different inputs and you guys can talk more about this but drn searching the command is of utmost importance to her. how did that equipped them or maybe complicate again how they responded to the virus? >> we spent so much time talking about dr. birx between the two of us. we really wanted to try to figure out. it's funny we talked people who have known her for 40 years, and they still don't completely understand it. she's an incredibly complicated person. i feel she's a very private person. she does, she doesn't really flinched when the president said, she was sitting beside him when he said we need to reope

she also knew she could be fired at any time so fauci was a little more indestructible. she could be fired. we felt like technically shouldn't have a brilliant move in late march when she publicly praised the president and right as at 15 days to float the spread clock was winding down, with tony fauci, she marched to the meeting saturday night and the gallop over room which i have never heard of before products in the residence white house upstairs in the president was completely on the ropes, one of his best friends was in the hospital with the crowbar's, he could see the hospital in queens, people laying in gurneys in the hallways and he knew the virus was that all over new york and she brilliantly said the president, that's going to be every hospital in the united states if you reopen and it was a genius thing to say to him so he said okay, we'll extend it for 30 days. in that moment, she played her role perfectly but that only lasted a moment and pretty soon, as soon as the aides got her away from him, he was itching to reopen again and we saw slow reputational destr

fauci: no. as i mentioned in the discussion, when you look at the numbers, the total, absolute numbers. when you are dealing with a cohort they were examining, there is a high percentage of people who are vaccinated. by definition, even with a high degree of efficacy, you're going to see absolute numbers that are high. the critical issue is what is the relative number, the percent that i mentioned. that is why i apologize, i wanted to interject that slide that was left out. showing you the lower percentage of people who are in that category. >> next question. >> hello. a lot of americans remain confused about the recommendations. they do not understand why vaccinated people need to start wearing masks again. they're confused about what this means for their children in schools. i am wondering if you think that your messaging has been clear enough to the public? what, if anything, are you going to do to address the confusion? maybe simplify things for ordinary americans out there who do not follow

a weird drive around secret service so they couldn't sit still and fauci and redfield checking on his gets the care he needed and they didn't know what happened. redfield, every step the president walking back up, monday he was discharged but frank every step is going to acknowledge this is real change course but as soon as he took off the mask, he knew it was over. i think the president, a month from the election, obsessed with not losing and he said immediately don't be afraid, we can't be afraid, we can beat this and that's when he knew it was over. >> he also described a moment mid april when trump tweets out liberate minnesota, michigan, liberate michigan doctor fauci later says it was a defining moment for him, it was a smack in the face waking me up. cap didn't wake him t up and how do you think it changed doctor fauci's behavior handlingde everything he was dealing with going forward?r >> our understanding was he saw it as a no return, the doctors did have some influence with trump, quite a bit of influence for a few weeks, they convinced him to shutt down for another 30 days,

don't florida, my fauci. use the money to help pay for all of the funerals that will be coming in the days to come. >> when is jimmy going to talk about the illegal immigrants crossing the border that is not vaccinated with the high rate of covid positivity? just wondering. why would i ask a silly question? actually doing news over there. here with reaction, someone that frequently had to encounter the great jim acosta, fake news himself, former white house press secretary, "outnumbered" kayleigh mcenany is back with us. >> good to see you. >> sean: never mind the fact that he doesn't know what he's talking about. ron desantis mobilized every state agency. he didn't do what they did in new york, new jersey and pennsylvania and michigan where they put covid in nursing homes where tens of thousands of people died. number 2, if i recall, it was your president that you were serving, donald trump, he's the one that put the racist hysterical travel ban in effect ten days after the first covid case, he's the one tha

fauci for a second, fauci spent hundreds and millions of u.s. paying for research at the wuhan lab. his failure to tell the truth back in january, february, march of 2020 was enormous disservice to the country. >> sean: 2020. >> 2020, enormous disservice to the country and it makes you worry about the whole process. that is why i think getting fauci off stage was a very important building block towards getting back to a rational conversation because he's running around now telling them anything wants to because it is a celebrity effect. but the truth is he doesn't know any of these things anymore than other people do. and his track record the last few years has been worse and worse the longer he's been doing the stuff. so, i think that is a significant part of our national conversation. what did we pay for? why didn't we get the information? why do we still not have the information? and to what extent does the united states, ironically, finance the chinese research that led to a worldwide pandemic? so if you think about it, it is crazy. it would

anthony fauci. here's a letter that aids activist larry cramer wrote in 1989: you are responsible for all government funded aids treatment research. in the name of right, you make decisions that cost the lives of others. i call the decisions you are making acts of murder. fauci ignored therapeutics while 17,000 aids patients choked to death waiting on his miracle drug. now, in full disclosure, i spoke to sean strub earlier today. he told me thinks fauci is doing a great job of handling covid. but i can't help but see the parallels. we have seen this movie before. we can't just fight each other about the vaccine. there are those again who fit the risk profile who should get the vaccine. if we keep fighting each other over the vaccine, we are not fighting covid. isn't that the goal to keep everyone safe and free? and, look, some people can't get the vaccine or simply won't. is fauci's solution to make them? what if fauci's one solution doesn't work? entertain that idea for one moment. what if it doesn

she was treated differently thantony fauci .s lionized and a bobble head >> on 14th street, right. >> nancy pelosi, the house speaker really went after debra birx four, it was incredible theway she was treated . he tried to portray her as a three-dimensional person who was very complicated and who he understood better because it was quite historic. >> to continue with the doctors, you described this vivid moment where doctor fauci sits down with his wife at the kitchen table and heated debates or whether or not he should resign. and if you like i have covered that long enough you realize at some point or another you have that conversation with a partner or a friend or with themselves and fauci like about 90 percent of the people in the trump world makes the decision to stay and people do that all four ulcers of different reasons, doctor birx had that discussion as well. what do you think there or what do you understand their reasons to be for staying and also how does this track with again the choice that almost everyone in trum

one is little but remember when fauci and then early august and then to say he goes to fauci i spenty days answering questions about tony fauci i am the president of the united states. then he says here we go. he's just obsessed with a guy who would not go away and he could not fire him. there was a weird dance. >> so that site between the cdc and omb when they tried to weigh in on the guidelines they tried to define what social distancing means and the cdc with the political pressure that the omb is exerting so i always understood to be in a political agency so how does the cdc come back from something like this with the white house and with the public who could abuse them in a very different way. >> spent this is what we continue to cover how it rebuildse itself and then there is the ongoing process that just came to its knees that stand everyone especially public health and those who rely on the agency but the one thing that makes their job hard it's not a regulatory agency but advice for the state they don't have any power they are supposed to have the most up to date science and

fauci describing what kind of virus this was.s a nightmare scenario because they could spread a symptomatically. it was respiratory and other such a wide range of infection people which made harder to treat and to know what to do. like you had said earlier it was a nightmare in figure and weight. january february february with the best opportunities to get lots of testing phase can make sure there's adequate contact tracing. there was always going to spread unfortunate people always going to die in a who was in charge, but i think there are countries that were models like south korea and of the country the ramped up testing very quickly with the never had devastating outbreaks in the way we did. that was a huge missed opportunity and the course we look into the whole mess with the cd test and why they didn't go to other companies. that was a big inflection point. like you said there was the mask debate in march weather was a proposal and already the companies manufacturing masks to send every american household, which gets yanked

fauci? dr. fauci: thank you for that question. trends ability is a bit more tricky than looking at the clinical phenomenon such as infection, seriousness of disease and hospitalization. it is entirely conceivable, and we will be looking at that, that when you boost and have a high level, and as i showed you on the next to last slide, the increase in the boost is really quite striking, multiple-fold increase, that it is conceivable that that me -- that might be important in lowering the level of the virus, which could impact transmission. i certainly hope that is the case. if it is, then you could really get multiple benefits from doing this. you could get an offense in disease severity, and ultimately in infection and transmission. but the bottom line with full transparency, we don't know that right now. jeff: we appreciate the questions and look forward to the next briefing. thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2021] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its

fauci, staff, where are you? instead, he's focused on outdoor -- the sturgis motorcycle rallyr, in south dakota. of course, they are probably republicans there, got to go after them. forget the super spreader party and martha's vineyard, forget about the super spreader of all super spreaders at the border, let's go after the motorcycle riders in south dakota. >> very concerned we are going to see another surge related to that rally. to me, it's... it's understandable that people want to do the kinds of things they want to do. they want the freedom to do that. but there comes a time when you are dealing with a public health crisis that could involve you from your family, and everyone else, that something supersedes that need to do exactly what you want to do. >> sean: nothing to say about the million person music festival, dr. fauci? nothing at all? nothing to say about the birthday party?rt nothing to say about the largest influx of illegal immigrants in the middle of the pandemic with a high rate of covid positi

fauci. dr. fauci: thank you very much. what i would like to do is provide you with the immunological basis that would support a third booster mrna immunization. i will make four points and show your representative data from each of these. first, antibody levels decline over time. second, higher levels of antibodies are associated with higher levels of efficacy of the vaccine. third, higher levels of antibody may be required to protect against delta -- the delta variant. finally, a booster mrna immunization increases antibody titers by at least 10 fold and may be more. less take the first concept, that antibody levels decline over time. following two mrna immunizations regardless of the variant. if you look at the horizontal access, and b-29's when you get your second shot. you can see the level of antibodies go up at 43 days. look what happens at 119 and 209 days. regardless of the variant involved, the antibody level against those variants declined over time. next concept, that higher levels of antibody are associated wit

fauci. dr. fauci: thank you very much. it is very clear now that we are dealing with a global outbreak of the delta variant. i keep updating this slide. it now shows that at least 117 countries now have the delta variant since it was first detected. so let's review some aspects of delta to help put it into the context of what we are talking about. we know the transmissibility is greater than the output variant, at least two times as great. this makes a major difference in transmissibility. the viral load is up to 1000 times greater in the nasopharynx of people with delta than alpha, which is a mechanistic reason why you have such a tremendous increase in transmissibility. in previous reviews, i had shown this slide and checked the boxes as to proof of protection. there was one glaring missing check in previous iterations of this, and that was in the j&j clinical effectiveness. next slide. i had shown you before this slide, looking at the data of immune responses in vitro. this was the j&j vaccine study which showed durable

fauci. >> exactly. dr. fauci's a hugely viral figure. and by the way, doing an interview with dr.ci, that generates enormous engagement on their social channels. these influencers are getting a lot from the deal even if it's not direct payment. >> hello, everyone. >> reporter: aidan con murphy founded gen z for change, an organization recruited by the white house to help promote the vaccine. >> gen z for change is a coalition of over 500 tiktok creators with a combined following of 432 million people. our cumulative reach in one month is about 1.5 billion views. that's more than cnn, msnbc, and fox news combined per month. >> i don't know. who needs to hear this? but -- >> reporter: one of gen z for change's team members is lacy b., a missouri-based tiktoker with over 1 million followers. >> i'm personally talking to my black and brown communities here when i say i understand why we wouldn't touch [ bleep ] the government gives us. but i'm also telling you that we are the most affected by the virus. >> reporter: what are some of the specific hesitations that you're hearing about a

doctor fauci denies that.s research, genetically engineering viruses to create vaccines and s treatmt but sucked the center of what could have caused the pandemic. let me give you this, nih director and doctor fauci weakened oversight of a committee, a board to do controls of this research, they avoided accountability by making up their own definition of what is and is not gain of function research and they basically undercut that committee to fast-track virus research by giving themselves veto power so this is directly what senator rand paul what's going on but doctor fauci denied it. now the doctor fauci saint yes, senator rand paul was reporting is correct, what you say? >> i knew senator paul was correct to begin with. doctor fauci has been consistently inconsistent, he's lied to congress, he's like to the american people. he's taken up every single leftist position and tried to protect this administration and been at thehe same time with a wave of hisam hand saying we are not going to worry about covid po

fauci said no tomorrow lockdowns the white house continues to blastoc socil media as a primary source of vaccine misinformation the washington post and media sayin. that to, new house republican report finds ample evidence that wuhan lab scientist in china genetically created and manipulated the coronavirus to make it more infectious to humans, with the help of u.s. funding and it did leak from the wuhan lab saying this is a historic cover-up what could've been a local all break into a major global pandemic, also tonight the house republicans announcing they do intend to investigate the tens of millions of dollars and pelosi family stock trade and hunter biden's activities if the republicans retake the house and the midterms next year, new video of the largest group of migrants crossingng in texas, the gop sas the border is the biggest super spreader event right now, they are demanding mores, from this where is the cdc, nih, dr. fauci we also have that in this fight between the biden the administration and texas over a migrant travel that is heading to the supreme court, the biden of

anthony fauci with a stern warning. >> things are going to get worse. we have 100 million people in this country who are eligible to be vaccinated who are not getting vaccinated. >> reporter: though dr. fauci does not anticipate lockdowns, he says people in areas where vaccination rates are low are at the most risk. more than 76% of counties are now reporting high or substantial transmission rates and louisiana with the highest case rate in the country, hospital admissions have gone up 500% in the last month, and it's not just adults, our lady of the lake children's health in baton rouge now has 11 kids hospitalized with covid, six in the icu. many who can't yet get the vaccine. >> we're seeing more children who are sick. it's literally twice the amount of children that we're seeing hospitalized than we were during the original surge. >> reporter: in nebraska shelly wachter urging people from her hospital bed not to make the same mistake she did and get vaccinated. >> i could have saved myself and my family so much by having gotten the immunization. >>

fauci on that? we have that and this fight between the biden administration and texas over migrant travel that fight could head to the supreme court. this news coming in, the biden administration says yes, it will keep the coronavirus shutdown that trump started in place for now. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: okay. welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. the far left progressive "squad." they're talking about being spoilers. we will block that new trillion dollar infrastructure deal. they have the votes to do it unless they get what they want, that bigger 3 1/2 trillion dollar spending bill. the government is throwing caution to the wind, spending blowout. the treasury department launched emergency cash conservation measures as the debt ceiling did expire today. joining me congresswoman beth van duyne. this congresswoman sits on house infrastructure. great to have you back, congresswoman. what about the talk

fauci is here to answer key questions. but first tonight, the rapidly deteriorating situation unfolding in afghanistan. the pentagn tonight has now revealed it is kabul hpmo a significant number of u.s. embassy person personnel, as the taliban now sweeps across the country, taking control . but we are learning about a meeting at the white house just today. taliban fighters now seizing those 12 major cities, kandahar, the second-largest city in the country, the after began military releasing video claiming to show air strikes on taliban targets. and the map tonight. you can see the dark red there, those are provinces held by the taliban in april, just four months ago. and look at the dark red tonight. this is what the taliban controls now. roughly two-thirds of the country. tonight, a u.s. official saying the events in afghanistan in the last 24 hours were a significant factor in the decision by president biden to go forward with this new and urgent plan to reduce staffing at the u.s. embassy. the state department saying to

and fauci said yes, of course.s praise of the trump administration. i assume after he got a lecture from his friend joe. you are exactly right. joe biden has been wrong on a whole lot. has been wrong opening masks and asymptomatic spread not being the cause of this. he has been wrong about not having a vaccine in record time and here he goes again. i'm sure biden has a lot of problems these days. fauci now is yet another. >> jesse: guy, you know how i love talking about polling. so, let's do that joey is under water for the first time. that's not a hurricane reference. is he now under water in the real clear average. and a lot of that is afghanistan for sure. but it was starting to slide before that with the mask back sliding, declaring victory as kayleigh said way too early. school openings are going to be another battle ground if behind up during the winter covid approval is the only thing holding him up right now. >> well, jesse, if you look at the polling there is a new one out today from "u.s.a. today" where t

fauci is here to answer key questions. but first tonight, the rapidly deteriorating situation unfolding in afghanistan. the pentagon tonight has now revealed it is sending 3,000 american troops back into kabul to help remove a significant number of u.s. embassy personnel, as the taliban now sweeps across the country, taking control of at least 12 cities. the a.p. reporting late today they have now taken kandahar, too. the pentagon today saying the u.s. will send those thousands of troops back in over the next 24 to 48 hours, to help remove a significant number of american personnel. of course, all of this less than three weeks before the u.s. completes its scheduled withdrawal from the country. president biden would not take questions about the worsening situation on the ground there. but we are learning about a meeting at the white house just today. taliban fighters now seizing those 12 major cities, kandahar, the second-largest city in the country. the afghan military releasing video claiming to show air strikes on talib

fauci. dr. fauci: think you very much, dr. wilensky. i'd like to spend a minute or two addressing a concern i continue to hear regarding the speed with which the vaccines were developed. this is usually among people who have a degree of a vaccine hesitancy or reluctance to get vaccinated. it really relates to two things that have gone on that people need to appreciate. one is the logistics and the investment in resources that was me. -- that was made. others is the clinical research that anti-data the developing of the vaccine. what about the logistics of the resources? generally, when you develop a vaccine, the thing that usually takes years to do, you do it in a sequtial fashion, you do something preclinical, phase one, phase two, phase three, then you start manufacturing the product. you do that sequentially because if the first one does not succeed, you don't want to go to the second, third, and fourth step. because of the wise investment in operation warp speed, and we give credit to the trump administration for doing this, particu

fauci to retire.id out the exact case for why he should retire. he said at the time that we should not too any kind of pandemic research without a national public debate totally l this in that kind of debate scientists less public. doesn't deal with the moral question of dealing with the pandemic. >> we have short article, two pages. you read it, you realize this is a recipe for why fauci should retire. he gave hundreds of millions of dollars of u.s. taxpayer money. our money to the chinese knowing it was going to the wuhan lab for the purpose of studying these kind of bat related viruses they had no real controls and what the chinese were doing. had no rights to acquire the research documentation and when the crisis came the chinese closed him down. he helped fund the research that led to a pandemic which i think has been an artificial man made disaster on a worldwide basis for which we still have no really good answers so i think fauci should go home to relax, rest, and what he said was basically ma

the republican party has tried to use doctor fauci as the bogeyman to motivate.w much damage do you think this does for the current coronavirus response? >> i think it does a lot of damage. he is the president's chief medical advisor. he is still on tv all the time telling the country what to do but you can see the damage. his approval ratings were high and you can see they've taken quite the dip because the conspiracy theories about him and the sort of hate towards him was confined to a certain part of the republican party and it's becomede way more widespread. tucker carlson on the show was calling for him to be criminally investigatedwh over what, i'm nt sure yet marjorie taylor green. it's gotten really bad. it's kind of unbelievable how much they fixated on him, all because he was inconsistent more than a year ago now. one of the prominent scientists in the country he is not the only one. there's lots of great scientists out there but because he is so visible and associates with both governments responses, if you are realizing him like that, i think overall

fauci about the new variants . >> dr. fauci and others warning if you think delta is bad, if you think delta has set us back, there could be even worse ones coming at us and here's why. nearly a third of americans have refused to get a shot, even though they are eligible, that gives the virus a fabulous opportunity to change and mutate into something even worse. as the virus moves unabated from person to person to person, the virus is like wow, this is amazing, look at all this time and opportunity i have to learn how to change to be faster and stronger. and then you get variants that could be even worse. the only way to solve this is to get people vaccinated. speaking to the people he who are unvaccinated, even if you don't care if you live or die even if you don't care if your family lives or dies, even if you don't care about your community, think about the economy, we can finally get everything back on track if we get these variants in check. erika? >> thank you. >>> this morning, as many florida classrooms welcome st

fauci., "the washington post" did a deep dive, found that yes, dr. fauci and the nih did approve tens of millions of dollars for dangerous gain of function supervirus research. dr. fauci was denying that in congress. also this, "washington post" reported they actually weakened oversight and controls over this legal research. dr. fauci, nih director denying it. it is about accountability. we're taking it on here on "the evening edit". in 2016, i was working at the amazon warehouse when my brother passed away. and a couple of years later, my mother passed away. after taking care of them, i knew that i really wanted to become a nurse. amazon helped me with training and tuition. today, i'm a medical assistant and i'm studying to become a registered nurse. in filipino: you'll always be in my heart. i order my groceries online now. shingles doesn't care. i keep my social distance. shingles doesn't care. i stay within my family bubble. shingles doesn't care. because if you've had chicken pox, you'r

fauci thinks fda approval could come by the end of the month.cago police department mourning one of their own after another violent weekend. seems like we say that every monday. 29-year-old officer ella french was killed during a traffic stop. jillian: prayers are pouring in for her partner who is fighting for his life. >> reporter: one chicago police officer is dead, another in critical condition this morning after a shootout during what was supposed to have been a routine traffic stop. cpd identifying the officer killed in the line of duty as ella french. you can see her right there. she joined the department in april of 2018, both french and the injured officer are members of a city wide community safety team that responds to crime hot spots. the superintendent, david brown, praising the courage of his officers continuing to work after one of their own was worked. >> they go to work, risking everything to serve the people of chicago. they come to work willing to run toward danger and they're willing to sacrifice their lives to save the lives

fauci. but what dr. fauci is doing is expressing and being the conduit of what the cdc is saying. the public health organization whose respondent is to analyze the data. it's not just one person, it's the entire public health infrastructure of the united states at the top of which is the cdc. so i mean a lot of people play with that wording, don't listen to dr. this or dr. that. that's not the way it is. there is a lot of work and consideration going into the recommendations. but people want to polarize it also personalize it and it is really not helpful. >> dr. anthony fauci there. a lot to digest there. we have dr. xavier bacerra joining us now. you just announced last hour that hhs is going to require more than 25,000 members of the health care workforce to get the vaccine. what happens if it doesn't get vaccinated, what happens? >> the majority of those workers are already vaccinated. we're just now saying to that. we believe this has already taken on that call. we want to make sure that everyone continues to do so. someone who is providing direct health care from hhs, they kn

fauci said.eling and analyzing things and thinking we've got a grip on stuff, and then the virus surprises us, sometimes to the positive. this surprising rapid drop in the number of cases in the u.k., everyone's scratching their head trying to find an excellent nation. and let's hope it's as simple as -- explanation. and let's hope it's as simple as vaccination and the natural immunity people have evolved. but i think we have to give some credit to the people, too, because what i'm hearing, and i don't know if people are actually observing mask wearing and continuing to be wary of situations which provide the virus opportunity to pass from one person to another. so that's important. but i think it's altogether that we have to see these people, plus vaccines, plus immunity. dani: yeah, in the vaccine picture, there have been reports that in the u.s. and places where hospitalizations are high, more people are going out and getting vaccines. do we have evidence of what really works in terms of polic

don't fred, fauci knows best. if you conflict with a bureaucrat, you must hate science and putting your kids and everyone else at risk. what connects all of these things? what draws them together beside that they draw us apart? why is worshipping god, burying our loved ones, celebrating graduations and marriages banned but protests and riots aloued if not to break the hold on faith and faith and community? the three things that make us more independent from government power and coercion? they tell you the reason for this is your own good. keeping you safe and sound. the truth you need to wake up to is despite over 1 1/2 years of bitter failure, our public authorities are bringing back the same policies they did before. you're about to experience renewed lockdowns, mass mandates and ridiculous restrictions on kids in school. they'll tell you they do it because they have to. they're doing it because they want to and because they can. the corrosion of our institutions including family and community has been happening

fauci in terms of death?ook at the modelling that people, there is always a worst case sekasckcasee and best case ser near owe and usually winds up in the middle. we're probably going to go over 100,000. i hope it doesn't go much higher than 100,000 but we want it to turn around quickly and come down. there is two ways to do that. you can do it immediately by wears macks in appropriate places like indoor settings and as you know, the recent cdc guidelines about doing that even if you are vaccinated. the other is to really accelerate the vaccination program. we're doing very well. i mean, when you look at the country as a whole, we've done very well. we have 60% of the country is fully vaccinated. we have 70% have received at least one dose of adults and the elderly are generally well protected about 80 plus % perce have been vaccinated. the only trouble is we have 93 million people in this country who are eligible for vaccination who have not gotten vaccinated and we've got to get to that group by whatever me

fauci. jeff: -- dr. fauci: thank you very much. i would like to update you on covid-19 vaccination in pregnancy. it is very clear now that there are severe adverse outcomes for mother and baby drink covid-19 infection. -- during covid-19 infection. therefore, it is important for pregnant women and women planning on getting pregnant to get vaccinated. let's look at these adverse events i mentioned a moment ago. from the cdc from over 10 go, if you look at analysis of 400,000 women and look at the risk ratio of things like intensive care admission, invasive ventilation, extracorporeal membrane -- for death, they all have an increased risk ratio. if you look at the total number of cases of pregnant women with covid-19 from january 2020 to august 2021, there have been about 110,000 cases, about 19,000 hospitalizations, and 131 deaths. covid-19 in pregnancy is serious. let's take a look at those risk factors which increase the possibility and probability of severe illness. number one is age, 25 years and older. occupation, prepregnancy

fauci. >> dr.re you claim that the nih conducted gin of function research in wuhan? >> senator paul, i never lied before the congress and i do not retract that statement. this paper that you're referring to was judged by qualified staff up and down the chain as not being gain of function. >> martha: what is your take on that, jamie and whether or not there's any of this gain of function research which cranks up the trans miss ability of viruses in order to figure out how to stop them but can be dangerous if leaked from a lab? >> the reason why i've been saying repeatedly that the issue isn't gain of function yes or no, but what was the work that was being carried out in the wuhan labs and what was the u.s. role in supporting it. it's a semitic issue whether or not it's gain of function. we're worried about gain of function making more deadly viruses. so in that exchange, rand paul and dr. fauci are right in a way. dr. fauci is right by the technical definition from a 2016 nih document. the work was

tony fauci did not change his guidance. he's not deterred by his own bigotry and stupid predictions. so here he was warning us a again about the perils of sturgis. >> well, i'm very concerned, chuck that we're going to see another surge related to that rally. i mean, to me, it's -- it's understandable that people want to do the kinds of things that they want to do. they want their freedom to do that. there comes a time when you're dealing with a public health crisis that could involve you, your family and every up with else that something supersedes that need to do what you want to do. >> tucker: well, i'm very concerned, chuck. so as tony fauci explained, given how dangerous to public health those bikers at sturgis are, you've got to wonder what the risk the rest of us face might be from barack obama's martha's vineyard birthday party. how you have hundreds of people indoors without masks that haven't proven their vaccination status. if the numbers tell us anything, quit a few of them were not vaccinated. is that acceptabl

that was anthony fauci and scott gottlieb who ran the fda.re people in positions of authority and respected as scientists whose word carries great moral weight. they all lied. the "new york times" led the way on this. a piece on unheard.com deconstructs the "new york times"'s roll on the propaganda effort on behalf of china. the "times" dismissed the lab leak theory as a fringe theory. only lunatics believe it. the "new york times" reporter called the theory the kind of conspiracy once reserved for the tinfoil hatters. you are a nut case if you think it's possible. then the paper published an op-ed by the virologist paid by anthony fauci to experiment on bat coronaviruses. talk about a conflict of interests. he denyed it came from a lab he was funding. he knew better -- he blamed the pandemic on deforestation, in other words on poor people. lies like this became less tenable. people noticed that a level 4 virology world in wuhan was conducting dangerous experiments on bat coronaviruses with fewer safe guards than a dentist office has in the u

you ask fauci what that answer would be. he also highlights some other contradictory messages. fair to say there is a reasonable amount of confusion out there, dr. siegel? and to some extent isn't it the cdc's own fault for that? >> yes, it is because of poor messaging and mixed messaging and changing messages. but i also think that there is no taking into account something i would call mask fatigue. people were told okay, get back to normal. we're over this and we're reopening and bam, suddenly to go in the other direction without a, an idea what it would do to the psyche of the country, b, people aren't going to comply with the masks anyway if you told them not to and c, again, the issue of whether the effectivesness is there and most important the word mandate keeps creeping in here. that's like saying we can't have a personal responsibility. i am wearing my mask more than i was before and i was vaccinated. i'm making that choice. people can make that choice. to be clear. >> many are. >> constantly being told what to do a