. >> last time you came on the show, goleta, back in march, you said in a clip that later went virald this about the joe biden administration and whether it was taking climate change seriously. >> i would just like him to basically treatment the climate crisis like a crisis. they have said themselves that this is an existential threat, and they better treat it accordingly which they are not. i mean, they are just treating climate -- the climate crisis like as it was a political topic among other topics, and, yeah, treat it as a crisis. >> has your view of the biden administration and its stance on climate change, has that changed in the intervening months, especially in the wake of the big infrastructure an budget reconciliation billings currently in congress, both of which have some pretty serious measures in them to tackle climate change? >> yeah. fortunately, no. my view has not changed. this has just confirmed this administration is not ready to -- to act as seriously as we need, unfortunately, but that's what i expected. >> one of the things we discussed extensively on this show