democratic senator, mazie hirono, sits on the judiciary committee.re air. senator, hirono, i know you, of course, cannot divulge into details of the private testimony of richard donoghue before the judiciary committee today. but -- but in general terms, how much closer do you believe congress is to learning the full scope of what then-president trump and at least one loyalist, it appears, in the justice department, jeffrey clark, were trying to do here? >> i think we are getting closer to the -- the full range of trump's big lie. and his use of the department of justice, like it was his own law firm. jumping over the attorney general -- acting-attorney general. and trying to get them to push out the big lie. and so, we are closer to getting to the truth. by the way, is -- this is important because the big lie is, still, going on with all of these voter-suppression bills being considered in state legislatures. >> and so many people, sadly, buy the -- the big lie. >> yeah. >> there's -- there's new reporting that -- that jeffrey clark was, actually, gi