moulton: yes, there is. but i am worried about taking too much action on the visa process went what we need to be doing right now is throwing out the visa process. my effort when i get to washington on monday will not be focused on changing the visa process, but on making sure the visa process takes place once we get people to safety. the biggest thing we can do is make it clear that it is not does people who qualify for the existent visas who need to get out. there are a lot of people who do not fit as deeply into those categories, but nonetheless are under tremendous threat from the taliban, including academics who allowed women to go to school, who led the charge to liberalize and free society in afghanistan and therefore have values that run directly counter to the count -- taliban. they're going to be under threat. people who were just associated with the u.s. military and were in touch with someone who worked for the u.s. military could be deathly afraid for their brother. they can be targeted as an af

seth moulton and republican peter meijer join us now. congressman moulton, let me start with you. so many of your colleagues are, as well as people in the pentagon and the biden administration about your trip. they say you used resources needed to facilitate the evacuation. how do you respond? >> those accusations are just not true. the other dat the end of the da, i don't care what pundits in washington are saying. i felt forgotten by the united states congress, by people ins with an making decisions that cost lives on the ground because they had no idea what actually was going on. so, why should marines and soldiers in another war be betrayed by congress in the same way? >> congressman meijer, other congressmen were blocked from going to afghanistan after your trip. do you think anyone in congress should be able to fly to kabul in a dangerous evacuation as you two did? >> we had strongly in the back of our minds and the fact is that seth and i are uniquely positioned to have as light a footprint as possible and both served with the military in iraq and spent time in afghanistan

congressman moulton, what is your reaction to john kirby saying, yes, the war is over? is this how you saw it ending? >> well, i don't think it's how any of us wanted to see it end. but it's true that it is a relief to have our troops home safely and it's a remarkable achievement that we got so many people out. but one thing i strongly disagree with john on, he said it's a remarkable achievement of the pentagon that we evacuated so many of our americans and allies. it is not a remarkable achievement of the pentagon, it's a remarkable achievement of the troops. what we saw was truly extraordinary. marines going forward of the gate, sifting through thousands of afghans to try to find our allies at tremendous risk to themselves. i expected to see afghans on one side of the gate and americans on the other. that wasn't the case at all. the american marines had to be out there, the taliban with their horse whips trying to find our allies. and every time they took an afghan by the hand, they put a little afghan girl on their shoulders and walked them to our lines, literally, l

moulton and hire are wrong. all these people including americans become leverage for the taliban. we cannot leave this country without our people. what don't they understand? that is the american east those. we don't leave -- what are they thinking? steve: joe biden did say i got a back-up plan. asked the pentagon guys if we are not going to finish the job midnight tuesday into wednesday, contingency so maybe that's what's going to happen. brian: he said i told him contingency plan he also told me to get out by the 31st. what's the contingency plan. ainsley: the majority of america i would say sides with you on this because they want all americans to come home.

you traveled there with congressman seth moulton from massachusetts. how did it come to pass? >> thank you, bret. both seth and myself have been actively engaged on what's called the special immigrant visa issue. those were visas in a program for individuals who had loyally served the united states in places like iraq and afghanistan. there have been tremendous backlog of these cases and in april, when president biden announced that he was continuing the initial plan for withdrawal, that started under president trump. we urged the administration to address this backlog. we had to know what was going on on the ground in kabul. and we have not had information we need from the administration and realized that we were being lied to up and down and we needed to see for ourselves. >> bret: so, congressman moulton tweeted out today with representative meyer, i visited kabul airport to discuss oversight on the evacuation witnessing young marines and soldiers at the gates navigating a confluence of humanity as raw and visceral as the world has ever seen is indescribable. can you put in

congressman seth moulton, thank you very much. and to be clear to our audience, you have been calling for this, not for months, not for a year, but since 2014. thank you for staying on it. >> thank you, poppy. >> just amazing perspective from him. he was on the ground. he served there. >> yeah. >>> we're also staying on top of breaking news on the covid crisis. we are learning new details about how effective the vaccines are. meanwhile in alabama, there is not a single i.c.u. bed left in that state. >>> in florida, one of the nation's largest school districts, goes back to class with a mask mandate in place. that in defiance of the governor. >>> also the governor of texas has just announced that he has tested positive for covid one day after attending this packed event. we hope he is okay, and we'll have an update on this ahead. () and open. what happened to all your things? i know you needed a place to study, so... and other times, it pays off knowing what to expect. at university of phoenix, you can count on fixed, affordable tu

moulton will vote yes on s. 325. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from michigan seek recognition? >> as the member designated by ms. hey lee of the 11th -- stevens of the 11th district of michigan, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that ms. stevens will vote aye on s. 325. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman seek reck necessary? >> as the member designated by ms. stefanik of new york, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that ms. stefanik will vote yea on s. 325. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from oregon seek recognition? >> as the member designated by mr. blumenauer of oregon, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. blumenauer will vote yes on s.325. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from maryland seek recognition? >> madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. gomez, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. gomez votes aye on s.

they'll no longer be a risk that congressman moulton described.n at this point. we have to see how the next few days ago until tuesday, that's the period of maximum danger at this point. >> the criticism we've heard of president biden and the military which was that it abandoned bagram air base, the president was asked about that pointedly yesterday here's what he said. >> on the questions of how to conduct an evacuation or a war, i gather up all the major military personnel that are in afghanistan, the commanders, as well as the pentagon. and i ask for their best military judgment. what would be the most efficient way to accomplish this mission? they concluded, the military, that bagram was not much value added. that it was much wiser to focus on kabul. and so i followed that recommendation. >> john, does that square with your reporting that military leadership thought it was a good idea to leave bagram? >> well, this is -- in part, because this is really the tragedy of the entire withdrawal. whether you love the withdrawal, whether you hate the

. >>> ahead on "cbs this morning," we'll talk with representative seth moulton on his unauthorized trip to kabul. what he learned there and his response to all the criticism. >>> breaking overnight, the u.s. supreme court is allowing evictions to resume once again. the justices blocked a temporary ban put in place because of the pandemic. they said the cdc does not have the authority to reimpose the moratorium without congressional approval. according to the census bureau, roughly 3.5 million americans said they faced eviction in the next two months. >>> also breaking overnight, a hurricane watch is in effect in parts of louisiana, including the new orleans area, as tropical storm ida gains strength. the storm formed in the caribbean yesterday. forecasters say it's on track to slam into the u.s. gulf coast as a major hurricane. louisiana's governor has declared a state of emergency. ida could make landfall on sunday. the 16th anniversary of hurricane katrina's landfall. >>> covid's grip on america is tightening. all 50 states are seeing high levels of transmission. one of the hardest hi

congressman moulton praised the military effort but said the trip made it clear to him.won't get everyone out in time. lawmakers from both parties have criticize the decision to end u.s. military evacuateon efforts by august 31st, texas congressman michael mccall says even afghan allies who already have special immigrant visas are being turned away from the airport sometimes more grimly their return to their homes. >> were they behead their family. and then behead them. the pentagon says the u.s. military and allied countries are working as quickly as possible. so far evacuating more than 88,000 people as of the latest update. >> but the number is continually changing every 39 minutes plane departed. >> kabul airport. >> the pentagon says that toward the end of this mission space will have to be reserved on aircraft in order to get the remaining troops out of afghanistan by august 31st. thank you, meantime, president biden's deadline to withdraw troops from afghanistan is less than a week. >> and yet thousands of americans are still stuck there, including more than 20 st

congressman moulton praised the military effort but said the trip made it clear to him. we won't get everyone out in time. lawmakers from both parties have criticize the decision to end u.s. military evacuation efforts by august 31st, texas congressman michael mccall says even afghan allies who already have special immigrant visas are being turned away from the airport sometimes more grimly their return to their homes. >> were they behead their family. and then behead them. the pentagon says the u.s. military and allied countries are working as quickly as possible. so far evacuating more than 88,000 people as of the latest update. >> but the number is continually changing every 39 minutes plane departed. >> kabul airport. >> the pentagon says toward the end of this mission space will have to be reserved on the air have to get the remaining u.s. troops out of afghanistan by august 31st alexander that little confusion here. what is the state department mean when it says that there's 500 americans still in afghanistan and another 1000. they're still looking into. do we have

this is from seth moulton, democrat from the state of massachusetts.ing that everybody needs to understand, even if you completely agree with the biden administration's decision to withdraw," by the way, most americans do, "the way they have handled this has been a total blanking disaster." it's difficult to think about a circumstance where democrats and republicans are coming after a president's exit so consistently. when you read something like that, what does that tell you? >> it tells you he has been losing the support of democrats across the country. rarely do i agree with democrats but i have to say i agree with seth's comments. it's been a complete and colossal disaster. we heard yesterday the president say he's ultimately responsible. he's ultimately responsible for the deaths of 13 service members and 170 afghan civilians. we have service members or american citizens trapped behind enemy lines. first they were told to shelter in place. then they were told to get to the airport. there they were told we can't assure passage to the airport, then

amy, i'll ask you this question i started with congressman moulton.erans and active duty? >> those of us who are veterans who have served in afghanistan and i served two tours in that aor, my husband one, we are very saddened by what's happening. i'm getting texts from friends of mine that served over there. we all feel just so torn and sad and like congressman moulton said, we feel very strongly that the biden administration and our country needs to do everything it can to try to get out our allies and friends to get them out and get their families to safety. that's really important right now. >> how do you think we arrived at this point, where they weren't prepositioned and they weren't organized and their families weren't all in one place, some are separated. a woman separated from her husband cowering in the basement, and the paperwork to complete the visa application could get them slaughtered by the taliban. what do they do with the paper? how do we get here? ingly >> i think we got here from many americans. the special red tape program is bogge

the discussion included messages of congressman and former marine seth moulton, michelle flournoy, and the director of strategic -- strategic operations at the defense department. this is about 45 minutes. i am in adjunct fellow from the hudson institute. i am joined today by a distinguished panel and let me start introducing them. she doesn't really need an introduction but nevertheless, i will offer one up. she is the co-founder of west exec founders.

representative moulton: monday will not be focused on changing the visa process, but making sure theisa process gets changed once we get people to safety. the biggest thing we can do is make clear it is not just people who qualify for the special immigrant visa who could get out. there are a lot of people that do not fit into those categories that are not nonetheless under tremendous threat from the taliban including academics who led the charge to let women go to school, who led the charge to liberalize and free deciding afghanistan, and therefore have values that run directly counter to the taliban -- they will be under threat. people associated with u.s. military members. i am in touch with someone who worked for the u.s. military and is deaf lee afraid for his brother because -- death lee afraid for his brother because his brother has been targeted as an afghan official and the brother of someone that worked with the americans. there are a lot of people that are under dire threat that we need to get out that don't fit into these categories. there is work we can do to do that. the

likewise, if you follow national security on the hill, you know congressman seth moulton. representative from massachusetts sixth district. he is a former marine. he now sits on the house armed services committee among other committees and is very active on defense matters. finally, we have the privilege of being joined, -- joined by the director of the strategic capabilities office. they report to the deputy secretary of defense. they have eight technical background. the previous he helped readership position at nasa and the aeronautics development. the topic is called transform and defense for a competitive era. that is what i hope to talk about. we will dive right in and talk about what our defense challenges are. each of our current competition. i cannot wait to dive right in with our panelist here. michelle, i would like to start with you. you wrote a piece in the june issue of foreign affairs as those -- if those in our audience who have not read it, i cannot recommend it highly enough your article talked about the challenges of the department of defense and offered

. >> jeremy, we had congressman seth moulton on, democratic, last hour who once again explained how he's been asking for answers from the white house, not just for days or weeks, but for months on this. and yet we still see the absolute mayhem on the ground at the airport that clarissa just described in such stark detail. how does the white house explain that? what was the plan when the warning couldn't have been more clear, that exactly this could happen? >> reporter: there are several things we heard from national security adviser jake sullivan yesterday that aren't lining up with what's happening on the ground. he said the taliban pro missed the united states that civilians would get safe passage to the airport. as of now, that doesn't seem to be happening, certainly not happening in an orderly fashion. what he also said was he insisted that united states had planned for all contingencies including the rapid fall of kabul. if this is contingency plans at its finest, i don't know what to say here. clearly the inability of people who had papers, including one person with a green card, w

congressman seth moulton, a huge voice overnight with a scathing statement. he said to say that today is anything short of a disaster would be dishonest, worse it was avoidable. and to what the president is going to say when he does address the nation, he has to answer to those critics in his own party. >> no doubt about it. and this is been a date circled on the calendar by the president himself for the last several months. there has been a quiet conversation of how to get the interpreters and others who have supported this effort for the last 20 years and america's longest war. so they have been starting several thousand that have been removed already. but no one was anticipated this to happen as quickly. i was talking to a white house official on friday who was essentially saying they have so much more time. that clearly did not prove to be the case here. so going forward, the president has to acknowledge what he did. but going forward what failures. and the reason is this, the credibility of this administration is on the line unlike any point in his presi

adding to that list, your right to mention seth moulton. also adam schiff, he is saying it's unlikely, adam smith also democrat says it's very unlikely . kevin mccarthy, l possible way . brad jerman, a present saying you're not quite get everybody out and this is just handful of people acknowledging reality. on friday, he looked into the camera in made the commitment quote we will get you home to america. he went even further and said quote, we are making the same commitment too. that was friday he'll be out this week in that commitment ha gone by the wayside. there is no transparency here i the meantime as you watch the pentagon rethink, they have a detailed percentage list of the members of our military who are vaccinated point by point, branch by branch, but they can still not tell us the number of americans caught in afghanistan. it is as stunning communication catastrophe all the way across from the pentagon come into the state department right on down to the white house. >> i want to drill down on that a bit because when people leave

moulton pursuant to h. res. 8, i inform the house that mr. moulton will vote no. as the member designated by mr. welch of vermont, pursuant to h. res. 8, i inform the house that mr. welch will vote no on the motion to recommit. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from minnesota seek recognition? >> minutemen -- as the member designated by ms. pressley, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that ms. pressley will vote no on the motion to recommit. as the member designated by mr. bowman, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. bowman will vote no on the motion to recommit. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlewoman from virginia seek recognition? >> madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. mceachin, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. mceachin will vote no on the motion to recommit. as the member designated by ms. porter, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that ms. porter will vote no on the motion to recommit. >> for what purpose does the ge

democrat seth moulton and republican peter meyer both military vets said they flew to kabul to conduct oversight of evacuation efforts but they did not give advanced notice to house leadership or the defense department triggering swift and fierce blowback. the pentagon calling their trip an unhelpful distraction. >> nick paton walsh is live in doha for us. and the president made an admission that would have been unthinkable a few weeks ago, completing the mission is dependent on cooperation from the taliban and you have new reporting this morning about whether they really are cooperating, don't you. >> reporter: yeah, i mean, look, important to point out it is an exceptionally chaotic situation around the airport right now even when the best of planning comes off. and it is quite clear that this is the final phase with the 31st of august deadline being stuck to. we have in a very tight window for the remaining desperate afghans to get on to the base. i understand some of that is occurring through kind of negotiated access with taliban who are running the southern side of the airport. r

. >> moulton and meijer say that they secretly flew to kabul to witness the situation for themselves. not had the information that we need from the administration, we waited for a plane that had open seats to make sure that we didn't take away anything from individuals who needed it. and actually went several hours out of our way -- >> the pentagon though doesn't see it that way. they say they were unaware of the decision by moulton and meijer to visit afghanistan and that their visit took time away from the mission u.s. forces were trying to conduct. >>> prime minister of israel is visiting the white house today and for the first time in 12 years, it will not be benjamin netanyahu. he will be meeting with neftali bennett. and the relationship between netanyahu and the democratic relations in the u.s. has always been tense. will anything change? >> reporter: at its core, the policies between neftali bennett and his predecessor netanyahu are mostly the same, but the approach will be much different. the prime minister saying that he is coming to these meet ings with a new spirit of coop

democrat seth moulton and republican pete meyer headed to afghanistan. >> both seth and myself have beengaged on what is called a special immigrant visa issue. both seth and i trying to draw attention to this issue and make sure we are doing everything we can, trying to look for ways in which we can better inform ourselves, our constituents, and our colleagues, in terms of how we can work productively to get individuals out. settled on the conclusion that we had to know what was going on on the ground in kabul. >> lawmakers usually only travel internationally unofficial business with clearance from congressional leaders. they fly on military aircraft and with the blessing of key committee chairs. >> this is at the time, in fact, if we want to do our jobs, it's selfishness. it's trying to get some attention for yourself, and it doesn't help the people that we want to be helping right now. >> moulton and meyer drew a sharp rebuke from house speaker nancy pelosi, and a stern letter written to all lawmakers, pelosi said that tral to the region would "unnecessarily divert needed resources fro

joining me now to discuss, democratic congressman seth moulton of massachusetts. a u.s.arine corps veteran. he served two tours. this report that americans have been beaten by the taliban in kabul. what else did you learn? >> we learned that a tremendous amount of the success of this operation is in the hands of the taliban right now. that we're counting on the taliban to allow us to get people safely to the airport, and we're counting on the taliban to allow us to continue this operation and not massacre people long enough for it to be complete. that we're counting on the taliban not to attack our forces on the ground. it's extraordinary that we've put ourselves in this position. we also learned that the administration has made changes to make the process go more quickly, including relaxing some of the screening requirements happening at kabul. but, jake, in my opinion, this is all happening way too late. myself and others have called on the administration to start this evacuation months ago. >> right. >> and the fact that we're figuring it out on the fly right now is t

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you come back on the speaker of the house, your boss admonishes you and congressman moulton for going over there. you did not announce your trip , he did not take seats away from people flying back in the country but to people who have worn the uniform and have grave concerns about the fumbling of the withdrawal there. you have any regrets about going? >> no. frankly if somebody is angry because they believe the biden administration is telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth about what's going on in afghanistan, there is not a lot i can say. we have clearly seen deception on behalf of president biden on anything for the number of americans who are left to whether or not they are stranded, to the residual presence of al qaeda in the country. it is just lies coming out. as a member of congress, my responsibility to my constituents and overseer of the federal government is to get to that ground troop. in all honesty, when we went there i was trying to make the case we should push back the august 31 deadline after seeing and talking to commanders on the ground. after understand

. >> you heard democratic congressman seth moulton earlier on the show.s been open about his criticism not the decision to withdraw but the way the evacuation has gone on. he said even if you completely disagree with biden's decision to withdraw, the way they handled this has been an f-ing disaster. i know you disagree saying no matter how the u.s. withdrew, it was going to be chaotic. but do you really think there is no way this could have been planned better in terms of vac waiting american citizens or a gahn special visa applicants? no way at all? >> listen, of course, there is no way you run a massive evacuation process like this and not have things you would have done better in retrospect. but i understand the representation to be, from moulton and others, that we should have begun the evacuation earlier and that would have solved for some of the chaos we're seeing today. i think there are a couple problems with that. the first is, we were under the belief in the spring and summer of this year, that the afghan military would stand up and fight. and t

congressman moulton praised the military effort but said the trip made it clear to him.yone out in time. lawmakers from both parties have criticize the decision to end u.s. military evacuation efforts by august 31st, texas congressman michael mccall says even afghan allies who already have special immigrant visas are being turned away from the airport sometimes more grimly their return to their homes. >> were they behead their family. and then behead them. the pentagon says the u.s. military and allied countries are working as quickly as possible. so far evacuating more than 88,000 people as of the latest update. >> but the number is continually changing every 39 minutes plane departed. >> kabul airport. >> the pentagon says that toward the end of the mission space will have to be reserved on the aircraft in order to get the remaining u.s. troops home by august 31st. what does the state department mean when they say there's 500 americans, 500 americans is still in afghanistan and another 1000 that they're still looking into. do we have any clarity >> yes, secretary blink

reporter: when did you learn that congressman moulton and -- the congressmen traveled to afghanistan? is that what prompted your letter prompt leaders not to travel to the region? speaker pelosi: a little bit before was in the public domain. we didn't make it known because it would be dangerous for them. a matter of hours. still until they were airborne it would not be safe for them. the secretary of defense, secretary of state, there is a real concern about members being in the region. with the, shall we say knowledge, of the secretary of defense as to what the risk would be to these member, the resources necessary to facilitate the visit and to protect them was an opportunity cost on what we needed to do to be evacuating as many people as possible. it's not just about them going to afghanistan. we are going to the region because there is a call on our resources, diplomatically, militarily and the rest in the region as well. this is deadly serious. we do not want members to go. reporter: you're disappointed in them specifically? speaker pelosi: i think my letter speaks for itself in

. >> oren, we've learned of these two congressmen, seth moulton and peter meyer who right field at that to afghanistan. the pentagon said they had no idea about this. do we know if their presence affected the evacuation mission? >> certainly any time you have two u.s. lawmakers on the ground in kabul, it would require its own security effort, it's own logistics effort once they're on the ground and once the pentagon knows they're incoming so that pulls away from the core mission, which is not only the evacuation of afghans but security around the airport to make sure the evacuation can continue. did it do so in a large way? i think you can look at the numbers and say although it pulled from the effort and was a distraction, it didn't pull too much away from the evacuation effort. the number was not quite 21,600 from yesterday but not very far off those at all. >> okay. oren liebermann, nick paton walsh, kaitlin collins, thanks for the reporting. now let's get analysis. kimberly dozier is a columnist for "time" magazine. colonel cedric leighton is an air force veteran. and counterterrori

and this is the discussion we had with your democratic colleague congressman seth moulton yesterday ande did for the afghans, that stood by our side, once again the president has not fully publicly committed to keeping american troops there past august 31st if all of the afghan allies and interpreters are not out. listen to what congressman moulton is asking for from the biden administration. >> it is absolutely imperative, they must make that commitment and they must follow through. and this is a commitment i've been asking them to make for months now. when i told them to start the evacuation before we get to a point like this. we're the united states of america, if we could put a man on the the moon, we could figure out how to get people out of afghanistan. >> do you agree that is an imperative commitment president biden needs to make? >> well, i suspect that he will in fact do that. but once again, he does not want to make an ironclad commitment right now to an unknown situation that will be facing him and america as well as the afghans at the end of this month. he's made a commitmen

seth moulton and peter meijer saying it's obvious because we started the evacuation so late no matter what we do we won't get everyone out on time, even by september 11th but the trip done without authorizatio from congressional leadership or military brass is sparking a fierce backlash. >> there's a call on our resources diplomatically, militarily, and this is deadly serious. we do not want members to go. >> reporter: a white house official telling nbc news every seat on planes leaving should be for someone trying to get out of afghanistan. meanwhile among those desperate to get out, 24 california students who had gone there to visit their families and tonight are still stuck. an american whose niece in florida told us the taliban is blocking her aunt from getting through their checkpoints. >> she is told you don't have a guardian with you you can't travel without a male she's told your paperwork is incorrect. she's given different excuses. >> peter, what can you tell us about the u.s. and these missions outside the airport to retrieve people? >> reporter: lester, the latest operatio

. >> representative seth moulton i -- representative seth moulton of u.s. massachusetts. live coverage begins today at 2:30 p.m. eastern on c-span, online at c-span.org, or, is another free radio app. -- bliss on the free radio app -- listen on d3 -- the 3 -- the free radio app. >> we welcome back to the washington joiner richard besser, former acting director of the cdc, joining us this morning in the wake of several major covid announcements.

brian: i don't understand whether a seth moulton and peter meijer's theory on this.e don't -- the minute we leave, we lose total control of the thousands left behind. if you are one of the thousands, you don't want to depend on the taliban's diplomacy arm to get our people out. the minute we leave. we are done with -- unless we want to just come in and drop a jay dam on the palace which might be a good idea to be honest or threaten it. those people are gone forever unless you just want to write the taliban huge billion dollars checks for the next 10, 15 years because we know they love that. steve: that could actually be how we do it. because there is a big story. brian: drop a bomb or pay it off? steve: in the "new york times" there is a story that the taliban is actually reaching out to former afghan leaders people like harmid karzai people in the government the last 20 years. they are there. we would like you to be part of helping us get into the international community so we can be recognized as an actual country so that we can get the money going again. because t

. >> reporter: congressman peter meijer and south moulton, both veterans, are receiving backlash from both sides of the aisle for taking an unauthorized trip to kabul this week. >> the gates to the airport are unlike anything i've ever seen. >> reporter: meijer told fox knn what he's been told here in the u.s. >> i did not support the decision to end our operations on august 31st before i went. after talking with commanders on the ground, i trusted their judgment. and i believe it. that's what i want to take back to fellow members of congress. >> reporter: president biden says he is confident the withdrawal will be complete by the end of the month. "the new york times" reports that at least 250,000 afghans who worked with the u.s. haven't been evacuated yet. the white house says more than 82,000 people have been airlifted out of afghanistan. but diane, that number includes american citizens who have been the focus of the effort. >> right. our thanks to you. >>> among the americans who are still in afghanistan, five families from the san diego area who are stuck in the country after vi

moulton tweeted that he really doesn't believe there's any way the evacuations can be done by the end of the month, not even by september 11th. house speaker nancy pelosi when she found out immediately sent a letter out urging house members not to travel to afghanistan, not to divert attention or resources away from the currennn a week until that consequential day. and we'll see which way it goes. jay, thank you >>> in the battle against covid, white house officials say they are seeing about vaccination rankings by state. leading the pack, vermont, massachusetts, and connecticut florida and texas are right in the middle and at the bottom mississippi and alabama with 37% >> reporter: the cdc is now reporting that new covid cases across the country are up 12% week over week because of the delta parent and deaths have risen 23%. the state of florida alone is now topping 3 million covid cases since the pandemic began at st. joseph's hospital in tampa, the pandemic is peaking daily. >> this is not normal. >> reporter: this nurse says she brought four patients to the morgue >> i went home l

congressmen peter meijer and seth moulton traveled to kabul tuesday claiming they wanted a closer look at the situation. the trip prompting a letter from speaker nancy pelosi warning lawmakers that traveling to the region would distract from the evacuation process, but in a joint statement, they both fought in iraq, they say they took a military flight into the country and say the flight was not full and that their flight out included some empty seats. as for that august 31st deadline, president biden says contingency plans were being developed to adjust the time line if necessary but the military will soon have to start packing up and moving out if they are going to meet that deadline, mona. >> faith, thank you. >>> we're hearing from an afghan translator now hiding in kabul fearing for his life. he worked as an interpreter for the u.s. military. he is still waiting for his special immigration visa, also known as siv to be approved. he and his family are moving several times a day to avoid the taliban. >> they killed people. they killed women. they killed children -- who work with any

. >> reporter: but he had choice words today for two unannounced airport visitors, democrat seth moulton and republican peter meijer, who flew there yesterday. >> they certainly took time away from what we had been planning to do that day. >> reporter: the two congressmen called it "oversight." some of their colleagues called it a stunt. >> it was not, in my view, a good idea. >> reporter: the secretary of state insisted today that the u.s. will continue to help americans and qualified afghans get out of the country even after the u.s. military departs in six days. but he was intentionally vague, norah, about how the u.s. plans to pull that off once all the troops are gone. >> o'donnell: nancy cordes, thank you. we want to turn now to tour exclusive interview with the top u.s. diplomat in afghanistan. earlier today, we spoke with ambassador ross wilson. he's no longer at the embassy in kabul, but instead working out of that airport. we asked him about the americans still in the country. >> we've been working our way through the lists, and through the numbers. we have, through the state d

meantime, there's criticism against congressman seth moulton and peter meijer. both iraq war veterans. they made a secret trip to the airport in kabul to conduct oversight on the evacuation efforts. but a u.s. official told cbs ws irresponsible. bradley blackburn is in new york with the latest on all of this. bradley, good morning. >> reporter: anne-marie, good morning. the clock is ticking on that deadline, and the taliban's grip is tightening. this morning they are refusing to let many afghan civilians head to the airport, accusing the u.s. of trying to take away the country's doctors, engineers, and other professionals. the united states continues to evacuate thousands from afghanistan every day. >> the first hope is god, and the second hope is the united states government to help them to take them out of there. >> reporter: nazar got out just before kabul fell to the taliban and now lives with family in california. >> me, i was working with the u.s. government for five years. i have the documentation i was able to get out of kabul. the people, there are too

had michigan republican members of peter right there, and massachusetts, democrat, reparative, seth moulton, both who sit on military oversight committees. able to come in. definitely made the present angry as well as white house state apartments, but they did it anyways. i want to bring in ned ryan, who is the american majority to get his opinion on why did to members of congress actually fly in. and is this actually an attachment to the lack of trust they have in the information that they're getting from the white house as well as from their own intelligence reports. ned, thanks for joining me. yeah, no, absolutely, scott, of course it is. they don't trust, they don't trust this white house, they don't trust gen pataki to give actual real truth of what's going on the deal, the pentagon, they want to go see for themselves. i think what was actually taking place on the ground. 7080 percent of americans wanted to see us out of afghanistan. there was no argument on that front at all, but to see how badly this withdrawal has gone. and how botched it's been. i mean, i'm seeing reports today tha

. >> massachusetts democrat seth moulton and peter meijer actually flew into kabul.ow, among the critics of their visit, house speaker nancy pelosi who issued this warning. member travel to afghanistan and the surrounding countries would unnecessarily divert needed resources from the priority mission of safely and expeditiously evacuating americans and afghans at risk from afghanistan. now, the two lawmakers said that they flew on empty seats to avoid displacing any evacuees. there is a lot of focus on getting americans out of average, rightly. so but it is increasingly clear that loyal afghans, folks who have helped us for years, some them will be left behind. back to you guys. brian: yeah. thanks, doug. it's so clear even his own aides don't think this time sideline feasible or plausible. he says i want my staff to come up with a contingency plan. real have any you are gradually pulling them out to get them out by 31st and if it doesn't work calling it a contingency plan? you think toy soldiers come in and out wind them up? they're human beings. you are going to pu

representative moulton: monday will not be focused on changing the visa process, but making sure theisa process gets changed once we get people to safety. the biggest thing we can do is make clear it is not just people who qualify for the special immigrant visa who could get out. there are a lot of people that do not fit into those categories that are not nonetheless under tremendous threat from the taliban including academics who led the charge to let women go to school, who led the charge to liberalize and free deciding afghanistan, and therefore have values that run directly counter to the taliban -- they will be under threat. people associated with u.s. military members. i am in touch with someone who worked for the u.s. military and is deaf lee afraid for his brother because -- death lee afraid for his brother because his brother has been targeted as an afghan official and the brother of someone that worked with the americans. there are a lot of people that are under dire threat that we need to get out that don't fit into these categories. there is work we can do to do that. the

. >> congressman seth moulton of massachusetts and congressman peter meijer of michigan who made an unannounced trip to afghanistan last week told cnn this outcome was preventable. >> we wouldn't have had to put brands in this position. if we had started the evacuation much earlier and we need to realign our strategic and operational priorities to ensure that it never happens again. and as of now, the white house is sticking with that august 31st withdrawal reporting in washington reshad hudson. >> back to you. >> and back now to the breaking news we're following with the called or fire all of south lake tahoe is under some form of evacuation right now because the fire is inching closer and closer to the area. >> fire officials once again in the last hour have ordered more evacuations around the tahoe basin as crews continue to try to contain the 2 week old fire which has continued to spread. officials say that the fire today was more aggressive than anticipated. we knew that winds were picking up in that area which we're starting to push those flames closer toward the toward the basin in towar