if closing bagram air base has been a priority for the obama administration and his colleagues for nearlyecade. coming up, two afghanistan veterans on who directed joe biden to shut the very fortified, very expensive and very strategically-located bagram air base on july 5th, tearing the rug out from underneath our military, leading to the death of 13 of our heroes. this morning florida congressman michael walz and brian mast on their tours in afghanistan and whose head should roll over this deadly mistake and this gift to terrorists in the mideast and in china. plus, instead of preaching military readiness, the wrong messages this administration and the democrats have been sending since day one when joe biden took office. >> in the fbi's view, the top domestic violent extremist threat comes from racially or ethnically-motivated violent extremists, specifically whose who advocated for the superior of the white race. >> you know, we had the findings of the fbi previous to january 6th as to what was happening in our country with domestic terrorists, with domestic terrorism in america and sa

>> john: take lessons from the previous administration, with this administration, obama administrationprison to the palace. previous administration, go from threatening american lives from the frontlines straight to hell. this is the punishment that happenss for people who threaten americans and our lives. i am opposed to war for war's sake, i hate wor. but at the same time, we must protect american interest and let our allies know we can be trusted and our enemies know that we are not to be underestimated. >> harris: joey jones said rather than take prisoners off the battlefield, you have to kill them all, his words. >> john: well, have you to be careful, we don't want to be the enemy we are fighting. we only kill combatants. human rights are never divorced from foreign policy and make sure down to lowest level we enforce that. never can revenge come into the tactics that we deploy. as an officer, i recognize and i've been in those situations and we have to make sure that we give our folks on the ground the ones who are left every resource they need to be successful and get back home

i watched you debate a member of the obama administration. re very critical of obama and what should have happened at that time. can you elaborate on this and what you think needs to happen now as well? of course, biden was vice president, part of the obama administration. >> that's right. i have -- i am just a little bit distressed when the biden team makes out that their involvement with this began sort of now. these are the same people who really were involved in the decisions not to address, as i said either of the questions that matter, which were afghan governnt corruption and our role enabling it and the behavior of the government of pakistan, and i was in those interagency debates. i was doing whatever i could to try to change the vector, to try to change the orientation. admiral mullen quickly came around on the issue of corruption. and he was making that argument in the cabinet, but he is the guy with the uniform on. the problem is, does not only agencies that could have addressed the problem. -- the problem is, he does not only agen

the obama administration was not in that position. not even close. biden administration, regardless biden himself as a politician , and where he would align on thisis ideological spectrum, it's very different. since 2008 there has been a decade of economic history and a light of new debate and public investment banks and trust and all kinds of different mechanisms and then to mobilize finance and investment to public and. and of course we have to wait for the fine print on the legislation the biden administration is planning or promising. not to mention passing that legislation, executing it. but since we had some more depressing notes in the conversation, there are reasons to think of this moment to be full of possibilities for doing the things that as recently as ten and 12 years ago in the midst of a financial crisis since the great depression think politically and intellectually it is unimaginable. that is my response to that question. >> so the material infrastructure proposal those that are not bridges or roads that is new and promising and bro

i different political outlooks on things, became friends after bob left the obama administration. about was teaching a class at nyu law school which i went to and we started discussing our views about the proper role of lawyers and the executive branch. and actually agreed initially to write a book about the white house counsel read which is the office the top lawyer in the white house with fighting as the present on the personal basis representing the government been a very close basis. there's never been a great book about white house counsel bob had strong views about it is a nice predict from different perspectives and make met one day to talk about that book. an outline the book and this is about a year and half ago and in the course this was in january of 2020, and in the course of trying to sketch of that book which kept coming back to the truck presidency. we kept talking about all of the things a trump done to violate the norms and exposed limits and accountability. and we are both students of the presidential reform in 1970, the ones that were famously implemented after

the obama administration was not in the position, not even close.hink with biden, the biden administration regardless of biden himself as a politician where he would align on this spectrum, the biden administration very much, since 2008 there's been a decade of history, economic history, history of capitalism, lots of new debates and thoughts about public investment, public investment trust, regional trust, all kinds of different mechanisms for publicly mobilizing finance investment toward public goals and public and. you have to wait on a lot of the legislation the biden administration is planning, promising not to mention passing legislation, executing it but since we have hit some more depressing notes in our conversation, i think there are reasons at this moment to think of full of possibilities for doing new things, as recently as ten or 12 years ago in the midst of a financial crisis the great depression, i think we are politically and also intellectually unimaginable so that would be my response to that question. >> the only thing i would add

we have been hearing this moral obligation that folks in the obama administration maybe -- pardon me, the biden administration, maybe biden isn't framing it that way, but there are folks in his administration that do this moral obligation to the afghans who helped american forces. you and i have been talking about this for days. we've been talking to veterans who feel that obligation very strongly. i have been talking to a lot of veterans who they didn't want to stay in afghanistan. they didn't want their kids fighting a war they fought, and they are feeling, quite frankly, abandoned by these decisions that they are seeing the biden administration make just, just in terms of how they are committing to get afghans out. what are you seeing? >> well, i'm seeing what you are, and i'm hearing the same thing from veteran friends and contacts that they're worried about, that it is a military credo, you don't leave men behind, you don't leave anyone behind, and that we are leaving afghan allies behind. and, you know, obviously this has been an issue. we've been covering it more than days, bri

infrastructure bill in the senate, what we saw with the recovery act into the first year of the obama administration. we are noticing, more from the biden standpoint, money that has been proposed to specific policies. again, federal railroad administration, federal transit administration, the federal motor carrier safety administration, that money will be geared to manage those agencies. two dedicate to those -- to to dedicated those safety programs. -- competitive grant system to give money to states. so they can proceed with a very specific state project. some of that in the biden bill, that was a big pillar of the obama bill. those are some of these differences on that front. host: rodney in manassas, virginia. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have a couple of questions. the first is the infrastructure bill shows money for transportation. there is an additional 400 billion which no one has explained. the other question is, the epa plays a lot into the issues with the roads being built and improved. if you could respond on that also i would appreciate it -- if you could respond on that, i w

so, what china did under the first obama administration, they came up with this idea at first to build an island, use the reef and one of the south china seas and the united states did not object. they were not sure what china is doing and they want to make sure that we can help when a fisherman gets into trouble or there's a report about whether. so people are like okay that's fine. so within three years, china reclaimed 3,000 acres of land through building artificial islands. with these three years. once they built of the island, there's hangers and radars and china also declared a claim not all of them are china because they built it but also the surrounding water is now the territory so by doing that, the claim to generate that international body of water now is china's own backyard and now any of that access it or exploration trips china will send its aggressive coast guard and to protect china's territory. so it's my strategy. that's what we call the gray zone tactic. it's important we understand that because now based on its success, it's using the same strategy on the land to e

who served as acting cdc director early in the obama administration.n, the future of afghanistan following the taliban takeover with brookings institution representative. watch washington journal. be sure to join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, text messages and tweets. sunday, the series january 6 scenes from the house continues. it could have been two hours, he could have been five minutes. i had no sense of time whatsoever. i remember when i got off the phone with my kids i felt as though my heart was pounding out of my chest. i was very worried that i was having a heart attack. i was kind of worried about that. i must have put my hand up to my chest, because the photograph that was taken shows me line with my hand up to my chest. i don't remember lying on my back. but i do remember jason taking my hand and stroking it and comforting me and telling me i was going to be ok. i was perplexed that he was reassuring me, because i didn't realize that i was showing how upset i was. >> this week, you will also hear from a massachuse

the obama administration said it would ban the use of the pesticide in 2015, but the ban next took effect before it was reversed by the trump administration. the pesticide is used by farmers on more than 50 fruit, nuts, cereal, and vegetable crops. and the acclaimed italian surgeon dr. gino strada has died at the age of 73. strada was the founder of the medical aid group emergency to provide assistance to civilian victims of war. he worked in afghanistan, iraq, yemen, rwanda, and other countries. in 2015, he won the right livelihood award. >> just like deadly diseases come has to be prevented and killed. violence is not the right medicine. it does not cure the disease, it kills the patient. amy: to see our 2005 interview with dr. gino strada, visit democracynow.org. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman in new york, with nmeen shaikh. hi, nermeen. nermeen: hi, amy. welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. amy: today, we spend the hour on afghanistan, where pr

and the obama administration was not in that position. not even close. i think with biden, the biden administration regardless of biting himself as a politician, and where he would come in on this kind of ideological structure, the biden administration situation is very different in 2008 there's been a decade of history , writing of economic history of the stories that history of capitalism. there's been lots of new debate and thoughts about public investment banks, public investment trusts, regional trusts. all kinds of different mechanisms for publicly mobilizing investment towards public bowls and towards public ends. and of course we will haveto wait for the fine print on a lot of the legislation at the biden administration is planning or promising . not to mention executing it but since we've hit some more depressing notes in our conversation there are reasons to think of this moment as being full of possibility for doing new things. that as recently as 10, 12 years ago in the midst of a financial crisis the worst financial crisis since the great de

and the obama administration was not in that position, not even close . i think with biden administration regardless of biting himself as a politician, and where he would align on this kind of ideological spectrum, the e biden administration carried since 2008 there's been a decade of history, of economic history and there's been lots of new debate that talked about public investment banks, public investment trusts,regional trusts , all kinds of different mechanisms for publicly mobilizing finance and investment towards public goals and towards public ends. and of course will have to wait for the fine print a lot of the legislation that provided administration is planning and promising. not to mention passing that legislation. but since we hit some more depressing notes in our conversation, there are four reasons to think of this moment as being full of possibility for doing new things. as recently as 10, 12 years ago in the midst of a financial crisis, the worst financial crisis since the great depression we're politically and also intellectually unimagi

should continue to withdraw from afghanistan and effort that started by the way, during the obama administration and continued through the trump administration. and keep in mind, who is president trump, who negotiate a deal with the taliban to basically lay off us troops as us troops were being pulled out of the country. and that evacuation effort, of course continued, and the overall mission continued still undoubtably. all that said, this will likely be a stain on the bite and presidency. the blame game is in full effect, and certainly a lot of accusations back and forth. officials here in the united states and certainly internationally with this effort ongoing. okay, let's get some reaction on the political fallout state so we can talk to spike co and who's the libertarian parties, vice presidential candidates in the 2020 us election spike. welcome to a. let's start with jo biden's approval ratings and they've taken a bit of a hammering. how much is the i've got to stand debacle to blame. i'd imagine that's the majority of it. i mean, the reality is there's been many things. there's been hype

. >> i was from the beginning, as member of the negotiation, from the obama administration, i know whatn the the table, concern of the that we not allow anyone to use -- gain them. lara: will you renounce al qaeda. >> anyone who are killing civilians. >> not anyone, al qaeda specifically. will you say you would renounce al qaeda. >> i think anyone who are killing -- that is our clear policy, i think that is clear. lara: it is not clear sir, i think you are avoiding -- >> for us it is clear. maybe not clear for you, but for us it is clear. lara: do share-al qaeda ideology. >> we do not have any foreign agenda. that we have proved last 20 years, we were able to care out attacks outside of afghanistan, against those in waiting countries who have had invaded our country. but we didn't do that. we fought them in our country. in order to gain independence. >> do you not support al qaeda's goal to see the onerous scourge to the earth. >> i already told you our policy. >> i understand, sir, it does not seem honest, because, you fight side by side with al qaeda, the dead are found together. you

then later, you know, making moves in iraq and backing moves by the obama administration. when he was vice president that resulted in strengthening i still, we can talk about how, you know, biden was at 1st, a huge supporter of us intervention in libya under the obama administration, but then admit that that resulted in things deteriorating in the country. and now observers are looking at his handling of the situation and afghan us down and saying, this guy may just not really know what he's doing when it comes to foreign policy. so biting did break, his silence seems to blame a lot of other people for the situation in the country. you seem to argue that i guess it was inevitable of the taliban would take power even though that was just the opposite of what he had argued before. that's what we just heard from joe biden, and his critics are not satisfied critics out there, just looking at the headlines, it is actually pretty shocking. what i will say that was created open reporting from your many banks. meanwhile, additional us troops continue to be sent to afghanistan off

i'm sure he was consistent in the obama administration. he's been consistent since.solutely believes that history will judge him well on this. but what about the point that he has left himself, and the united states, and our allies who are still there exposed? >> first of all, chris, there was no good time to get out. there was always gonna be issues and that's one of the reasons we state for so long. i think the big point here from up an american standpoint, joe biden delivered from his presidential campaign there's no question the americans left behind, they spoken with the administration. they're gonna stay with it. they're gonna be working with allies. of course, seeing that through is gonna be very important, and continuing to help afghans who want to leave do that as well. let's talk about the politics for a moment here. if the republicans were running for senate and governor in-house next year, 12 months from now, they're gonna make this the centerpiece of their campaign, that we should have stayed there longer, maybe should have send more troops in. that's no

in fact, what is -- i just think back to the obama administration. for the taliban not just to be at the table speaking but speaking with afghan counter parts, that was the goal. guess what? we got there. they've been at the table with the united states and had a lousy deal the taliban violated but talking to the afghans and what under pinned that, what pushed the afghan -- the taliban to the table was u.s. air power, the continued threat of u.s. military strikes and not only did president biden say we're going to pull our ground troops out completely and unconditionally, but he also said no air power and that broke the back of the afghan military because they knew what that meant for their combat power. >> mark, appreciate your time. thank you very much and i appreciate your blunt assessment. >> my pleasure. >>> next, dr. sanjay gupta with a special report on long covid. so who gets it and why? and why you can still get it if you're vaccinated and i'm also joined by the mayor of tapika. 45-year-old runner and mother of three about a get a pacemaker

you write during the obama administration and then into trump, and, of course, this new administrationt's right. this happened with all of the presidents. people may recall back in 2014, president obama said that the war was coming to a conclusion. there was actually a ceremony in kabul, at nato headquarters, and the u.s. official said that the combat mission for u.s. troops was over. and yet behind the scenes, the pentagon and obama all knew that u.s. troops were still going to be in harm's way and people were dying in combat during the duration of the war. more than 100 people died in afghanistan, u.s. troops, after obama said that mission was coming to an end. >> woodruff: you cite one military leader after another, i'm thinking of general patreus, very critical of biden, saying he sould have none tht the afghan military was fighting off al-qaeda and isis. but he said things were going well, when they weren't? >> we heard this month after month, year after year, under bush, obama and trump, that the afghan military could defend their own country. and yet in the interviews, u.s. mili

it is something we didn't do a decade ago when i was working on this within the obama administration. we focused on the higher and, thanks to the crisis iran, we knew the numbers from. if we want to stop worse things from happening before they happen, to try to keep women and men in the military we want to keep in, and to create eventually that workplace where it doesn't have it at all in the first place. thank you to the irc for doing this, to cnas for having the conversation. katherine: thank you. we will open up a moderated panel discussion here and then we will follow on with audience questions. kayla and ky, the irc report, a consistent thread throughout is that the bond between commanders and their subordinates is broken. why do you think that is? how do you think we can go about restoring that? kayla: i think one of the issues, as ky alluded to, there can be some significant gaps in age and other areas. one thing i remember from my time in the service, sometimes that gap is significant enough, junior enlisted folks are engaging in acts of sexual harassment, but if you don't kno

this is not seen by the obama administration but almost -- biden administration but almost shocking to it was not seen by them. trey: given this is happening in afghanistan, starting with blood of our sons and daughters and trillions of dollars, i think the images will force president biden to address the nation, what should his message be. >> i would say, the buck stops with me. this did not go down well. i am sorry for the people that helped us, that we were not able to get out in time. this is what i'm going to do going forward, and less 3 or 4 options. all things he will say may not be popular, they will not poll well, what is your show about? your show is about, what is the right thing to do. if you do the right thing, the popularity of it will come eventually. they should not worry about, that they should not blame president trump, that is unacceptable. they can blame him for everything else but this, they cannot blame president trump. trey: thank you for joining us. >> still ahead reaction to reports that taliban is freeing al qaeda prisoners from afghanistan. >> and afghanistan

i'm sure he was consistent in the obama administration. he's been consistent since.ll on this. but what about the point that he has left himself and the united states and our allies who are still there exposed? >> well, first of all, chris, there was no good time to get out. okay? there was always going to be issues. and that's one of the reasons we stayed for so long. so i think that the big thing here from the american public standpoint is they wanted this war to be over. and joe biden delivered on a poor commitment from his presidential campaign. there is no question the americans left behind, they have spoken about that today. they will stay with it. i'm sure we have intelligence assets there working with allies. so seeing that through will be important and continuing to help afghans who want to leave do that as well. but let's talk about the politics for a minute. if the republicans who are running for senate and governor and house this week, this time 12 months from now will make this the centerpiece of their campaign, that we should have stayed there longer, m

would be able to cover anything if you have it abide by conflict of interest rules. >> and the obama administrationh. >> i have never been happier that my sister works from home for a great company and rescues cats. >> tonight we are doing a show on rescue cats. you have to stay out of this. >> i will step aside. >> you have to make a choice. >> it's not easy. you can't write your brother's statement. and be an anchor. >> i think from is something to be said about family. >> amen. >> but, the problem is i watched cnn for the first time in months last night. i wanted to see how compromised he looks. if there is a problem has ha to do the nursing home stuff. it's not just him and his brother. it was the mockery of the event with his brother. the q-tip and the dating. he talked about covid and he is passionate and telling people what do. he is not news reading. he is commentating. but you are going wait, you didn't do. that you faked it when you were quarantining. you were playing with a q-tip. it's hard to listen to him now. it's like he had that stinch when you you are on poop island you can't get o

. >> the biden administration is now left to negotiate with the taliban with some of the same leaders who the obamaen administration released from gitmo. >> harris: he should be familiar with them. he has been in office for 50 years. weighs there when it was going on in the white house as well. who we're dealing with outside of the perimeter of that airport today. joey jones is joining me now. fox nation host and retired marine bomb technician and our friend on "the faulkner focus". we were together on "outnumbered" yesterday. now we get the detail some of the men in charge. biden should be so familiar with who he is dealing with here. >> we should have killed every one of them. if we've learned anything take no prisoners on the battlefield. if they have a gun in their hand put a bullet in their chest is what we learned. we won't be allowed to gather human intelligence because that process is considered torture now. what is the point in bringing any of them in? they'll sit there, get fat. become martyrs for everyone on the ground and we lease them back to stir them up and take over afghanistan. tha

i think the book ends about the great recession and the failure of the obama administration to change that. to redirect investment and redirect thehe american economy on a different path. i guess the last question we most important is what would it mean to transcend that contradiction and to move to a new order long-term investment? i have a number of thoughts about that. maybe i will just limit myself to three and then perhaps we can do that. first it's possible it's certainly possible the age of control the united states economy emerges out in which the state through programs of public investment largely through public corporations like the finance corporation through a mix of public and private means the state forces a long-term and coming out of the war largely becausef of pressures but by organized labor it's complicated certainly a postwarr generation of long-term fixed capitol investment. so it can be done. there are very historical examples that demonstrate that. with that said i think we talk about others. one of the, i guess i will state weaknesses of the book are one of the

it happened during the obama biden administration as well, joe biden was a part of.have never had an honest debate, an honest discussion. we're not prepared to look at what's happening. i feel for the afghans, and i think there are questions about the implementation of this policy. we have never given a damn, even the warriors who served who come back to silence without much coverage in the media we're all part of. to see the republicans now trying to exploit the lies, the ignorance, the uncaring just to score political points, well, afghans are truly, you know, in a troubled condition. i want to say i'm surprised but i'm not. >> yeah, surprise is dead along with irony. the rnc had a page error that was touting the withdrawal, right, so it's kind of difficult to see it. i just want to know, what is the over/under on how fast the pivot goes, tom, from we have failed the afghans to you can't bring 20,000 of those people here, they're muslim, right? >> that's a sucker bet because it's already happening. you know, there are republicans already saying can't bring those pe

that privily served as special envoy to -- other key roles in the obama administration. he is director for partnerships and global engagement at the national security council. he has monitor and comment on it semitism. he fights from endlessly against holocaust nihilism, -- the nihilism -- denial. -- resulting in an overwhelming victory for deborah and all of those fighting holocaust denial. she was a two term member of the holocaust memorial council. we are eager for rashad and debra to get to work. according to the pew center, 56 countries, have high or severe restrictions on religious freedom. here in the united states, as in many parts of the world, we have seen a rise in anti-semitism and anti-muslim hatred. this hits painfully close to home. as you know, there was an anti-semitic incident here in this building last week. that was deeply disturbing. not only because it was a deliberate act of hate towards many of our employees, but because this is the state department. at our best, we lead the fight for the dignity and freedom of people everywhere. we are resolute i

, new report that a television leader was freed from guantÁnamo bay in the exchange by the obama administrationa picture. before we show the wrong picture, this is the right guy. the mastermind of the taliban takeover, former gitmo detainee swapped out for boberg all by obama. what happened to the promise by the obama white house that swapped prisoners would be sent to carter and kept from causing trouble in afghanistan? >> another false promise of the previous administration and we will pay for it. al qaeda is intrinsically involved in with the taliban and. they have al qaeda leaders that are part of the leadership of the taliban who are -- we are going to be here more about i do. they claim this to be a victory. they will use it to get more fighters to come to their cause. now afghanistan will be the face of terrorism for al qaeda and other terrorist groups in america will be much less safe. todd: if you think this is a problem that is an overseas situation we don't have to worry about think again. experts warning of another potential 9/11 attack, president biden insisting the us can confront

in your reporting did your research what the obama administration had for their pandemic plan that theadministration either ignored or recommended or and the shorter version is how much time might have been lost if they didn't act on the existing administration. >> that's a great question. a few days before trump was inaugurated there was a meeting in the eisenhower executive office building with essentially all of obama's candidate all trumps incoming cabinets and it took a tradition that had started a couple administrations before they walked through various catastrophic events to try to prepare the new cabinet for how to respond one was to take an active shooter in acollege campus . one was a tornado or hurricane and the third was a pandemic, like a flu. and someone shared with me a photograph of everyone in the room . it was like mike flynn, mattis, all these people and what was striking about it was almost all those people were gone when the pandemic came. the first health secretary lasted like a year. i don't even know if they were paying attention during the briefing but so many

going back to the bush administration, the obama administration, the trump administration, and now bidenunfortunately, for biden, on his doorstep. but he has to go back and understand in terms of how he moves forward, the deal that was cut in doha, the impact it played in setting this in motion. demoralizing the afghan troops on the ground when it was very clear at that point the u.s. was no longer going to be there for them. the corruption that then ensued and how that played a role in creating the opportunities for the taliban to take hold to the point that afghan troops just laid down their weapons, sold them their weapons. so there's a lot to parse out of this politically. but right now, you have to deal with the humanitarian crisis. and that is air lifting out those men and women who were there for the u.s. over the last 20 years, their families, and the individuals who played a role in sustaining u.s. troop presence there and pursuing the military in civil objectives of the u.s. government with respect to afghanistan. that should be the priority of this administration. and let the

here's what the former ambassador under the obama administration had to say? >> we basically gave up on afghanistan and what president biden did was to embrace it, embrace the envoy. he owns it >> reporter: domestically what all this means for biden is unclear. polling in the spring indicated the public was behind his decision to pull out troops but that sentiment could change as the scenes of a brutal taliban takeover unfold just weeks ahead of the 20th anniversary of the september 11th attacks tyler. >> shannon, thank you. douglas olifant, served as the director of iraq at the national security council during the bush 43 and obama administrations he's a senior security fellow with the new american foundation you spent a year in afghanistan advising on counter insurgency, sir. how has this gotten so bad so quickly and are you surprised at how quickly the government backed forces have seemed to melt away? >>. >> it play sz into everyone's biases senator lindsey graham, you're saying look at what's happening, i told you so. am i surprised it's happening so quic

>> or set by the obama administration. that's the administration under which the taliban political commission was opened. it was always a pipe dream. it was always giving, you know, a stage to some of the most odious people on earth, terrorists who are i think the enemies of all civilized people, jake. i think the trump administration doubled down on the mistakes of the obama administration after the president abandoned what had been i think really the first reasoned and sustainable approach toward afghanistan in 2017. and then the biden administration doubled down on the flaws of the trump administration. and the self-delusion really. we're seeing an end of that delusion now. but people are still clinging to the same sorts of arguments about the war. >> but you know, we only have a minute left so i just want to just ask you quickly. polls indicate that the american people don't want a u.s. military presence in afghanistan. and they look at people like me in the media and you a retired general and they think you're the numb

rachel, as we get all of our work in the obama administration, all of the global issues, international issues, white house counsel and then i also have to say we have been very fortunate in times up to have rachel as an advisor. internationally rachel has been working on the military sexual assault and independent review commission work that was appointed by president biden and secretary alston. meighan and i got to know each other also when i was in the white house, when she was doing amazing work with malala. she and i organized a very complicated [inaudible] malala and her father in the white house in 2017. it was really concentrated on the fact that those of you that are from dc and know your dc history, you will remember october, 2017, we were in a government shutdown for the failure to pass the 2018 budget -- from 2014. and malala and her father came to the white house. there were only few essential staff there. people like me were left to their who didn't know how to do all of the ways and enter. so there was the gate with in pouring rain. there was the first lady and the presid

joining me is james clapper, the former director of national intelligence in the obama administration. first question to you, do you view this as an intelligence failure? >> not surprisingly, pamela, no, i don't. i think whether the kabul collapsed immediately or in 30 days, the outcome was the same. so we can argue about whether the number of days was predicted or not. that in itself is not just an intelligence call. clearly the state department and particularly the embassy itself, i think would be the best source of gauging how long it would take before kabul fell. >> just to understand this as i pointed out on friday, the state department said it was not an imminent threat of falling. now it has. the u.s. is pooling now embassy personnel in kabul as the taliban is literally taking over. help us understand how that cannot be viewed as an intelligence failure? do you think it's a failure of planning, logistics? what went wrong here? >> i would characterize it as a whole of government failure perhaps to see this. because, again, i don't think this is exclusively an intelligence failur

now the obama administration is increasing it to 100,000 you think it will still go? >> thank you for the question prefer those over here in c case you didn't hear, if i thought the quota once the quota is increased to 100,000 to accommodate more syrian refugees, whether i think that quota will be filled? i don't think it will. if past history is any indication, and given how long it takes to vet a refugee for security reasons to come to the united states it's highly doubtful we will reach that 100,000 quota, thank you. >> will be exceed the usual. [inaudible] >> yes that is a good question. kristin asked whether we will exceed the 70 -- 80000, yes i think we will. i think we will probably if i had to guess i would say somewhere between 85 and 90000 people who will be brought in. but remember, bear in mind 100,000 are notot all syrian refugees. syrians are competing with refugees from other parts of the world. the quota has been expanded presumably to accommodate more refugees but it's not guaranteed all of those spaces will go to syrian refugees. thank you. >> i know

that is the mindset of the obama administration. by the time they hit the ground running in january 2009 is that white american interior say anything about it you remind that you are white american reviewer black american you are reminded to an uncle tom. that is the introduction of that era. what's curious about the book, obama's book obama's plan here is my book by the way, what's curious about obama's book is his choice of enemies. donald trump is one he limbs throughout the book. he is one of the republican he goes after. the only republicans he speaks well over john mccain and abraham lincoln. there's one republican he singles on focuses on surprise everyone to read the book. this person was the one who unleashed the dark spirits in the conservative movement. these are racist spirits. everything in the future of racism who is that one person? sarah palin, right? sarah palin shows up throughout the book maybe ten or 20 times. every time he talks about something negative there is sarah palin. and sarah palin unleashes the tea par

richard perez or who served as acting cpc director early in the obama administration. then, the future of afghanistan, following the taliban's takeover, with medea of the brookings institution. what c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern thursday morning. sure to join the discussion with their calls, facebook comments, text messages and tweets. coming up on c-span, we will hear from president biden and of ministration officials on covid-19 response up or spirit defense secretary lloyd often -- lloyd austin and general mark milley were update on the situation in afghanistan. after that, the british house of commons holds a special session on afghanistan. ♪ c-span is your unfiltered view of government. we are funded by these television companies and more. ♪ -- support c-span as a public service, along with these other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. >> president biden delivered remarks on covid-19 vaccines and plans to offer booster shots to americans. from the east room of the white house, this is 15 minutes.