joshua sharfstein joins from johns hopkins. doing when they look at the new conundrum of getting schools launched in the classroom? dr. sharfstein: i think they are looking at the data, which shows if you have multiple mitigation measures in place, you are in the best possible position to prevent illnesses for teachers, other adults in school, and students. those measures are going to include masks for teachers and students, vaccines for all the adults and older kids who can take them, and better ventilation. if other things. if you do those things, you are really minimizing the chance of a problem, probably to the point where it is quite low. we will obviously have to see how this plays out. it is very disturbing to me is how some school boards are acting like the virus is really not that much of a threat, and they could be sorely mistaken. lisa: what do you think is a remedy, given the fact that it seems to be a state-by-state endeavor with florida actually banning mask mandates in schools, other saying you need to wear masks

sharfstein. what is the character of their reticence and their courage to get vaccinated? of the people who came this weekend had heard about the delta variant. they knew people who got sick. they were there. they came early. there was a huge surge early, and then there are people who you could tell were reluctant. i would ask them, " what made you change your mind?" they don't give an argument. they give a person. they say, " my wife, my husband, my girlfriend." we have to hope may be people will listen. tom: how do we jumpstart this? i would say an incentive would be baltimore orioles tickets, but maybe that would keep people away! joshua: never know -- you never know. this is behavioral economic, what would make people change their mind? it is obviously a standard -- combination of incentives and standards. here in maryland all the hospitals are requiring vaccinations for people who can get it. it is a combination of things that i think will move the needle. i do think the delta variant, the surgeon hospitalizations, the surge -- the surge in hospitalizations is having

sharfstein, it is august 30.rstruck by what appears to be that nakedness of the underage 12 group. when a nine-year-old gets kevin, what happens? joshua: generally speaking, it is not a particularly severe infection. it can feel like a cold. there are more rare cases, which are now more common, because so many are getting sick, where kids can beat sick like adults. for that reason, because there is so many cases, we are seeing more kids very sick, seeing hospitals filling up. a real crisis in intensive care in some places like new orleans. tom: what is it anticipation of what back-to-school will look like in heavily covid- hospitalized areas and away from those areas? joshua: in some of those areas, school has already started. we are seeing if there is a lot of infection in the communities, it is going to come into the schools and start spreading. we are seeing huge numbers of kids being quarantined and schools shutting down. teachers are getting sick. we have to try to avoid that if we are going to have a succes

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