replacing it with a taliban flag.e have seen that a lot in the capital. it has left a lot of people very upset. >> the international monetary fund is withholding 400 60 million dollars from afghanistan citing a lack of clarity over government recognition. the u.s. has frozen $9.5 billion of afghan government assets. nearly the entire reserve of its central bank. the u.s. defense secretary has concluded evacuations from kabul have not met their target. lloyd austin has said american troops don't have the capacity to extend the on the airport perimeter to get -- to help you get more people out of afghanistan. the british prime minister says the u.k. will do all that can to avert a humanitarian crisis in afghanistan. boris johnson says he does not believe military action against the taliban is an option. president joe biden says he disagrees with the world health organizations warning against giving coronavirus booster shots. he has unveiled plans to offer them from september. stay with us. inside story is up next. ♪ >>

so the taliban went to war with the taliban let afghanistan in 2000. what we have seen with iran over the more recent years, particularly with its relationship -- particularly as its relationship with the u.s. got worse, it started to funnel arms to the taliban. i think that's was -- that was meant to poke the u.s. in the eye and present more strength to america's rival in afghanistan. for iran, its major interest and concern is the she a muslim community in afghanistan. they are the religious minority in afghanistan, a very vulnerable community. the taliban, many of the murder. i run will wordy -- worry about their security. i think they will look to get reassurances that [indiscernible] iran does have a potential asset in afghanistan. there is a shia built militia on afghanistan that iran cultivated to deploy to the middle east and fight in the wars there. iran has the option if things came to to reconstitute that afghan/shia militia and try to deploy to protect the shieh community. that is an advantage iran has. final point, it worries about the tal

ambassador basically to the taliban negotiations has askedal the taliban, do not come into kabul under strength under the americans are out. so, it's not a question of they're not coming in, it's don't come in until americans and their allies are evacuated hopefully within 72 hours. the initial troop withdrawal from afghanistan to target multiple cities in recent days. this morning the taliban did seize control of the eastern city of jalalabad near the pakistan border. just yesterdaypa the taliban captured sharif after we were on air yesterday morning and jalalabad and kabul are still in government possession and now only one of those three cities are under control of the government.co we're not sure how much control the government has over kabul. this follows the taliban's recent capture of key cities of kandahar and, their spiritual home and take over of the country. right now 25 of the 34 capitals are in taliban control and only one major city is not and that major city is kabul. joining me from there because you are going to find this man in a place where everybody else has left in

the taliban have...l, what we see right now is the united states has cut off all of afghanistan's dollar reserves. that's billions and billions of us dollars. we see the imf has also, for the moment, suspended all economic assistance to afghanistan. we see an economy that, until two weeks ago, was 40% reliant on international economic aid and assistance. that's all gone. you'd think if the taliban were serious about trying to get some of those economic lifelines restored, they might be doing more to reach out in terms of guaranteeing rights, guaranteeing political pluralism. we're not seeing it. yeah. and that's what we are trying to get them to understand, the severity of the economy of the country, the enormity of the responsibility on their shoulders, and they must... time should be of the essence, enough urgency to them and that a political settlement, absolutely something that the economy of the future of this country will depend upon. and we hope they realise the enormity of the responsibility that

the american government lamed the taliban -- blamed the taliban for harboring al qaeda. taliban says it has changed since it was last in power. we have more on how they may govern this time around. reporter: step-by-step, a return to rule. ever since the taliban signed a deal last year with the u.s., their old enemy, they have been emboldened. moments like this started to shift their international image. then suddenly, this summer, district by district, they were back in charge. these scenes were recently filmed for us in a province at the gates of kabul. scenes of an orderly transition, the taliban taking over, taking care of the people. but more grislyeos have been surfacing. alleged abuses and atrocities. whato you say to those who fear the return of the taliban? >> they should not fear because the government that will come after this will be acceptable to all. reporter: taliban rule that returns to afghanistan will be different than the one they govern so harshly in the lat 1990's. we have reported on the change, however imperfect over the last two decades. no one ex

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there is a huge pakistani taliban presence, people disaffected by the pakistani taliban or who were inups who crossed over into isis. this is seen as a for tile battle space -- as a fertile battle space by isis. >> let me get this straight. what you are saying also is the group, in your opinion, wants to establish a caliphate and also wants to reestablish some sort of relevance in afghanistan. >> they are already relevant. they just have to expand their operations. they have to take advantage of the strategic vacuum that has been created. they will want to expand into pakistan as well, where there is fertile ground. places on the western periphery of afghanistan that were formerly under the control at one point, from 2007 to the early 2010s, by the pakistani taliban. this is a battle space that they know. at the end of the day, isis in afghanistan are people from outside. this is isis parachuting people from the mothership. in the arab world, these are locals who are battle hardened, they know the terrain, and they are coming out under a new label and see they have a better opportunity

today i saw the taliban in kabul. - taliban in kabul now? yes. today i saw the taliban in kabul.aw the taliban in kabul. we were | saw the taliban in kabul. we were out in the western outskirts of city and there was a stream of taliban fighters coming out of the city on captured police rangers, and they're being cheered by by standers and little children running after them. it was an extraordinary scene. what about the institutions, the authorities, the security forces in kabul, what happened to them? they have completely meanted away —— melted away, collapsed. it started today. there was a rumour the taliban were inside the city. it wasn't true, they were on the outskirts. but soon you saw police abandoning their posts and changing into plain cloths and soon the city was full of soldiers without their uniforms trying to get out, to not be the last ones killed in a war that was lost. and the taliban was sending people to government facilities to facilitate a handover, so they weren't in the city in the force today, but the transition is very much under way. t force today, but the

-taliban talks in doha. meanwhile, former afghan president hamid karzai held talks today with the head of the haqqani network, a powerful faction of the taliban. this all comes as the taliban moves to secure its control of afghanistan. on tuesday, the taliban held a news conference where they promised amnesty for former government officials and pledged to eradicate opium production. the taliban also made promises to protect some rights of journalists and women. >> government offices will be activated soon and all employees, including women, returned to work and work in areas permitted by sharia law. we and you see that in the field of medicine, education, police, and other sectors of society. we need women because it is a necessity of society. amy: despite the taliban's pledges, many women across afghanistan have not left their homes since the taliban seized control. earlier today, the taliban opened fire on hundreds of protesters in northeastern jalalabad who marched through the streets holding the black, r

the taliban regime. nation—building mission, and that is clearly been a failure. there were gains that were made for afghan people over these years, in terms of education, health, women's right, how long those gains will endure is now very much in question. and so you have to consider there was a two—part mission by the united states in afghanistan — counterterrorism and regime change. he first had some successes. the second distinct lean not, because we are back to where we started 20 years ago.— started 20 years ago. laurel miller there from the _ started 20 years ago. laurel miller there from the international... - colonel chris kolenda, author of zero—sum victory: what we're getting wrong about war, led the us troops as commander to fight against the taliban in 2007. i have got a personal reaction and a policy reaction. my personal reaction is it is very upsetting, it is very disappointing. i've got afghan friends who i am messaging back and forth who are very concerned about their safety, their pers

the taliban could make it to kabul, and that— the taliban could make it to kabul, and that in— the talibane 13th of august, this was the us assessment. kabul is not right now in an imminent— kabul is not right now in an imminent threat— kabul is not right now in an. imminent threat environment. clearly. — imminent threat environment. clearly. if— imminent threat environment. clearly. if you _ imminent threat environment. clearly, if you just _ imminent threat environment. clearly, if you just look - imminent threat environment. clearly, if you just look at - imminent threat environment. | clearly, if you just look at what the taliban _ clearly, if you just look at what the taliban have _ clearly, if you just look at what the taliban have been - clearly, if you just look at what the taliban have been doing, . clearly, if you just look at what . the taliban have been doing, you clearly, if you just look at what - the taliban have been doing, you can see that _ the taliban have been doing, you can see that they— the taliban have been doing, you can see that they are _ the taliban have been do

taliban has been. taliban has been. it 3 complicated because afghanistan is so important to iran, both economically and regard to the amount of trade but also because afghanistan is home to so many she a muslim. the islamic regime of iran is sheer. and that is key to understanding the difference between the taliban and the islamic regime of iran when it comes to their relationship. the taliban is here and the islamic regime of iran is sheer. and historically they have been better enemies. there was one key event where the taliban assassinated almost one dozen iranians diplomats and a journalist and it almost led to war between the two. instead, a run opted to co—operate with the us in order to topple the taliban. come 2001, the us led invasion in afghanistan and that calculation changed on iran's part. they began cooperating with the taliban and to stave off the us influence, so much so that the us officials accused iran of having supplied weapons and money to the taliban, something the iranians deny.

that taliban and this taliban is that the taliban of 2001 were new. now this taliban is experienced, disciplined. our activities are going well. we are obeying our leaders. >> reporter: a lot of people are concerned that if the taliban takes power again, women's rights will move backwards. how can you guarantee that women's rights will be protected? >> translator: we assure this to people all over the world, especially the people of afghanistan. islam has given rights to everyone equally. women have their own rights. how much islam has given rights to women, we will give them that much. >> reporter: that is clearly open for interpretation. next to the mosque, we find a classroom of young girls. but their teacher says they will only receive religious education and will not attend regular school. at night, i am separated from my male colleagues and sleep in the women's part of the house with the children. i've been talking to some of the women in this room, and i promised that i wouldn't show any of their faces. but it's interesting because, you know, t

to the taliban.liban government, and will probably be recognising it. russia has had talks already, but encouragingly, russia special�*s envoy to afghanistan has spoken to his opposite number in the us, so thatis his opposite number in the us, so that is encouraging because the only way that is going to be lasting peace in afghanistan is if all the countries in the region can agree on what it looks like. i have to say that to looking down the future, i think the west will be a lot less relevant. china will want its mineral resources from afghanistan it russia well one day peaceful stable border or border area on those southern republics that stand between afghanistan and its own territory. iran has its own interests there. ararat is very close to the iranian border. but all of those countries will certainly china, russia and iran that have bad relations at the united states will, to some extent, i think, be not exactly growing, but certainly want to be back to satisfied to see the humiliation of a co

what are the taliban promising?— west. what are the taliban ”romisin? . ., , promising?taliban are seeing they will not _ promising? the taliban are seeing they will not harm _ promising? the taliban are seeing they will not harm anyone, - promising? the taliban are seeing they will not harm anyone, they i promising? the taliban are seeing i they will not harm anyone, they will not target anyone, they will protect businesses but we will have to see how that taliban transition from the military attacks on the military side of things into the politics and what sort of government we might be looking at and what sort of settlement. it is definitely something that was in the making over the last few days if not weeks and hours. my colleague said to you earlier on the messaging from the government was also confusing. the president said he was working on reorganising the afghan national security forces while he has left the ri last all have his cards and the ri last all have his cards and the military has surrendered and it is still a very fluid and confusing situation. ~ , .,

so how does the rise of the taliban, the re-emergence of the l taliban, the re—emergence of the talibanfit into that picture for china? ., ., , taliban fit into that picture for china? . . , . taliban fit into that picture for china? . ., ., , ., china? china has had long-standing arrangements _ china? china has had long-standing arrangements with _ china? china has had long-standing arrangements with taliban - china? china has had long-standing arrangements with taliban when - china? china has had long-standing. arrangements with taliban when they were in government last time. china was one of the few with access to have investment and economic interest in the country. taliban know that in a situation where they will struggle for legitimacy internationally, they will not get aid from the west, another government might find china a lifeline on the economic side. there will be trying to create the conditions for at least a good political relationship with the chinese. there was a prominent meeting which took place recently between the chinese foreign minister in which the taliban made st

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and presumably, this taliban escalation is -- certainly not to have complete taliban control.d they bring to bear on this equation? >> all the players in the region, the iranians, russians, chinese, indians, pakistanis, they all have their own desired outcome, priorities, and those do not align. you will see a lot of jostling for power. you will see attempts at patronage and proxy warfare. as this situation develops. and typically, from my study of insurgencies, the more entities involved, the longer something lasts so that is not a good sign. >> what is your gut feeling about where this is heading? >> heading into 2022, we will be looking at and afghanistan controlled by the taliban in large portions of the country. not entirely. at that time, we are likely to see the growth of transnational jihadist groups like al qaeda, like others. my main concern, my main fear is that afghanistan one -- once again turns into a magnet for foreign fighters and there is a mobilization which acts as a force multiplier for many of the most dangerous terrorist groups there. >> what is your sens

we can judge the taliban _ are they a change taliban?iban by their words i are they a change taliban? we can judge the taliban by their words orj judge the taliban by their words or we canjudge the judge the taliban by their words or we can judge the taliban by their actions stop for afghans it has to be by their actions. their words say repeatedly this will not be the taliban rule between 1996 and 2000 won. a harsh, authoritarian rule, which led to them being a pariah state. what is the evidence on the ground? in recent months, as the taliban overran district after district, the schools were shut, girls were allowed to go to school, mainly up to the sixth grade. music was banned, media outlets were shut down, men were told to grow their beards. this led afghans to say, yes, the taliban have changed, but actually they are worse than they were the first time round. but they give us a different picture here in kabul, where they know the eyes of the world on the capital. they talk about no revenge, no vindictiveness, no actions against memb

. . , ., ., , taliban are here.t many --eole taliban are here. that is what many peeple should _ taliban are here. that is what many people should be _ taliban are here. that is what many people should be careful— taliban are here. that is what many people should be careful about, - taliban are here. that is what many| people should be careful about, with what we have seen. if you say the taliban have entered the city, it will create panic. as we know, as of now, after speaking to my colleagues, they were only seen on the outskirts. they were also not in an aggressive posture, according to another colleague. so we have to understand, there are talks going on as we speak, both in the presidential palace and in doha, the interior minister of afghanistan has issued a video saying there are talks about a peaceful transfer of power, a transitional government. quite a dramatic statement coming out from a senior government officials. we have still not heard from the presidential palace, so i'm only giving you what the inte

yes, the taliban are letting people through right now but the taliban is the taliban so the chances of something breaking out is there. it is not without risk. host: in illinois, you are next. caller: good morning. a long time ago i watched a documentary called -- about a forward base in a valley. soldiers were getting shot at from the high ground. as an unsophisticated person, you would watch this and say who would put a forward base in a valley. my point is this, we were there for 20 years. we were told this was not vietnam. why did we fail? what would it have taken to win? did we need to use tactical nuclear weapons? did we need to change completely the rules of engagement? how could we have won? as assumed people had thought this out about why we were there. what did winnie look like and why didn't we win -- what does winning look like and why didn't we win? host: thank you for the call, bill. guest: that base was in the cornwall valley. i have been to the cornwall valley. the soldiers in that unit were there for 15 months, day after day of patrolling and standing watch and trying

the taliban and — die and not just at the hands of the taliban and isis k, there will be from _ talibanthe us and uk france. how and where the intelligences coming - where the intelligences coming number one for those us strikes, those drone strikes considering looking forward, that there aren't going to be in neat forces, us forces uk forces or any allied forces uk forces or any allied forces in afghanistan of the question is, where is the intelligence going to come from? that is really interesting point and we've seen in the past couple of days, i was struck by the reports of this family that had been killed and no one seems to know exact facts. it doesn't matter but for the sake of the report, a large family had died in the age of the children and the exact place that the incident happened is a bit vague and it's because we don't know or have the eyes on the ground any more and yet, as you say, the uk government in the us government is saying that we will strike when we are prepared to come back, but how will we know that the taliban, if it has changed at all, is propaganda that's be

— taliban promising? well, taliban narsinah taliban promising?liban i narsingh they will not harm anyone, they will not target anyone. —— taliban are saying. but we will have to see how the taliban transition from the military attacks into the politics and what sort of a government we might be looking at but it is definitely something that was in the making of the last few days if not weeks. my colleague said to you earlier on, the messaging from the government was also confusing. president ghani said he was working on reorganising the afghan security forces while he has literally long lost all of us cards, the military has surrendered, the senior government has surrendered so it is still a very fluid and confusing situation. why do you think it has _ confusing situation. why do you think it has been _ confusing situation. why do you think it has been reported i confusing situation. why do you think it has been reported thatl think it has been reported that caliban spokesman has instructed taliban fighters to stay out of kabulfor taliban fighters

interesting you say the taliban will have to - say the taliban will have to cooperate. is it? it international community's hands, is it? , a, u, international community's hands, is it? , ., it? it is, if you have got british troo ts it? it is, if you have got british hearts in _ it? it is, if you have got british troops in there _ it? it is, if you have got british troops in there and _ it? it is, if you have got british troops in there and there - it? it is, if you have got british troops in there and there will l it? it is, if you have got british l troops in there and there will be thousands of us forces in there, and they have got a role in this as well. and there is more where they came from. we have to toughen up our approach here and go to them and say, listen, you are going to have to play ball here. we have got enough forces in kabul right now to make sure that happens. serra; enough forces in kabul right now to make sure that happens.— enough forces in kabul right now to make sure that happens. sorry to cut in, mr townsend, _ make sure that happens. sorry to c

a number ofjournalists, many taliban of journalists, many taliban fighters ofjournalists, many talibanreported as getting treatment in hospitals in peshawar. they have money and weapons and treatment facilities. those are lords of the reasons they have been able to manage all these years and it also used the ethnic and tribal vision. you have various tribes and they used the tribal connections to negotiate with people to ask people to switch other sites. you see what happened the last time, they were using brute force in 1996 and 1995. this time they have been using a carrot and stick policy, negotiating with the regional governors, negotiating with the army commanders, we will give you a safe passage because many people can't. they have been using this in this round of offensives in the past few days and that is why in the provinces they simply give up without a fight. you have brought up pakistan. we havejust been without a fight. you have brought up pakistan. we have just been speaking to the british mp tobias ellwood who has said pakistan has a lot to answer for. has said pakistan

they weren't motivated like the taliban. they weren't organized like the taliban. and now that all the foreign troops are leaving that country, it seemed pretty obvious that the taliban would take that place over without much of a fight. and that's what's happened. the question is, is how quickly will that happen, just in the 72 hours n the next three days, will wext see a total transanything that country? that's more likely it will i happen. as it happens, you are also seeing a mass exodus from that country. people who over the last two decades had hoped for a brighter future for themselves, for their children who thoughts, they had seen the end of that very harsh taliban rule are now escaping, pouring across the border here, into iran, leaving everything they have in that country behind, trying to desperately leave with their families w their children, their wives, to eek out some sort of a very difficult existence here in iran but something that's preferable to what they would face in afghanistan. >> stay close. want to keep coming back to you for analysis of wh

, ., ,., taliban? there will be a potent element. taliban?tent element. as an economic- taliban? there will be a potent element. as an economic crisis taliban? there will be a potent i element. as an economic crisis in the country clearly as a result of what is happen. there's also a humanitarian crisis. the taliban want to be able to demonstrate that they can run a government and run it more effectively than they did 20 years ago. and to do that they will need external assistance. at the moment the existing government, still the legitimate government in many peoples eyes have money overseas particularly in the united states. and that money has been frozen. there is a deal to be done if they want that money released in support of their own efforts of governance in kabul. also, afghanistan is one of the poorest countries in the world and it's something like 60%, 70% of its gdp is an overseas aid. if they don't get any future aid and that means mainly from the west and the international institutions then the country will degenerate very fast an

did things get better after the taliban left?— after the taliban left?after the taliban left? they could only get better, really. _ after the taliban left? they could only get better, really. i- after the taliban left? they could i only get better, really. i witnessed over a dozen trips in the last few years and an incredible wakening of women. and i've seen them as activists, human rights activists, lawyers, doctors, parliamentarians, politicians, it was incredible and to really, we promoted democracy, we encouraged women to be independent, defined the voices and obviously afghanistan is a deeply conservative culture, so they had to do that sort of, with the permission of the families, but was incredible to watch women reallyjust defined in afghanistan. the photos you've taken of life there — such an insight into life there — afghan girls in school, women voting — now that the taliban are back in charge, what do you fear for women there the most? i'm terrified and as they are, on my phone messages from women crying saying they can she give my sister out

the taliban is a more extremist _ context? the taliban is a more extremist version _ context?sion of these - context? the taliban is a more i extremist version of these issues. we usually distinguish between islam as a religious tradition, as part of as a religious tradition, as part of a complex and nearly 2 billion people strong faith and political islam, where more extremist versions of islam which have very different poles, that include terrorism and political violence. we can talk about isis or i sold, we can talk about isis or i sold, we can talk about the taliban as having this tradition. so, the idea of the taliban will be using a form of islamic law that's faithful to islam is practised, which is supposed to be equality. there are supposed to be equality. there are supposed to be equality. there are supposed to be equal rights between sexes, and the idea that the taliban will be practising a kind of faithful motion is a bridge too far.— is a bridge too far. press after karishma _ is a bridge too far. press after karishma vaswani _ is a bridge too far. press after kari

same taliban.. >> same people, and expecting different results, and every time i had an opportunity to ask people, who are negotiating, i -- justed is what the evidence they have changed, i am assured no, don't worry they are more nationalistic they have narrator: eva-marie smoked 12,000 packs of cigarettes over 15 years. she quit and now there's a new lung cancer screening that could save her life. you stopped smoking. now start screening. no matter how much you smoked, early detection could save you. talk to your doctor or learn more at savedbythescan.org >> i've been told one of reasons why for example u.s.e mains reluctance to provide air power in afghan military, while battling the taliban in recent military push, the reason is they don't want the taliban to blow up the american embassy in kabul. isn't that allowing terrorists to feel empowered. >> yes, the afghan forces on the ground, who need help, it is there is nothing subtle about it. >> absolutely. lara: he is frank and it got him in tro

taliban controls that area.ill say as has been pointed out, the taliban is composed of a lot of bad people. a lot of folks that have that relationship are members of the hakani network and a lot of organizational affiliations are fluid. current day members of the taliban might, in fact, migrate to isis because of its extremist views. therefore in the waning days as the military presence draws down, i think there's going to be increasing anxiety about potential for follow on isis-k attacks at the gates and points of entry. i know the u.s. military and intelligence officers are doing everything possible to understand what's outside the gates, but again, in waning days, it will be very difficult to ensure safety and security of american personnel and those afghans that are trying to get onto the airport. >> i guess that raises the question, clint, how much our intelligence can protect us in the waning days when the footprint goes down, as we know, danger goes up. >> it will be tough, chris. increasingly need human

a government that would be acceptable to the taliban, led by the taliban. that would see the taliban take over the city of roughly 6 million people, without it descending into anarchy and chaos. >> just an extraordinary update there. we are talking about a potential transfer of power by tonight, as your reporting. richard, you've been also tweeting from -- visa application centers were people afghans have literally begged you for help. what are you seeing? begg it is unclear that this transition government will take place tonight? there is some talk about the government might see that there will be a transition period for six months, led by the taliban. we'll have to wait for more details as they emerge from this meeting. which i think we're going to get in the next several hours. the negotiations are one thing. having the power on the ground is what the taliban has right now. and yes, afghans, many of them want to leave. we were at a visa processing center earlier today, and there were many afghans in their. they were crowded in their. they were leaning ov

either taliban or certainly taliban linked group. so you got to remember that the that taliban is not one. 3 1, a great hierarchy that's extremely disciplined to mean it out. there are different factions in different gr with it. so there are, have been certain taliban linked groups, at least on the streets who seem to have taken over a role of policing of, of directing traffic, checking vehicles, the kinds of things that the police normally do that interestingly, normal police units in hearing cobble are still also on the streets, but quite a few of them and we've seen them ourselves. i've actually been dispensing with that police uniform because they know that's the uniform of and outgoing administration and dawning the civilian clothes, but still doing the job of policing. so it is a very confusing situation on the streets here with a parent taliban doing policing work on the police. doing also policing work in civilian clothes. robot is a confusing picture. jimmy knows where the african precedent is. if we know who the african pre

al qaeda still has a relationship with the taliban despite the taliban's promises not to do so.hat do you see is the odds of terror groups basing there again and the taliban allowing it? >> greater than 75% for sure. i think, michael, what you'll see is the formation of some groups that are either al qaeda itself or al qaeda-like organizations or isis-like organizations. and those organizations will attempt to use afghanistan's ungoverned spaces to do what they did before, what they did 20 years ago. whether or not they will be successful, it really depends on the ability of the united states to follow them from an intelligence perspective if over the arising capabilities that the secretary of state and the secretary of defense have talked about don't work, then we're going to be in a bit of trouble, and there are some indications that those capabilities are not working as advertised. we've had some issues with those capabilities in the past. they can work, but you have to have a lot of stuff in the background that makes these intelligence sources actually perform to the degree

taliban.ave captured more territory, including the former us airbase at bagram. the us has begun evacuating staff from their embassy in the capital. according to eyewitnesses, taliban militants met little resistance along the way to the capital. our south asia regional editor anbarasan ethirajan watching the developments in afghanistan from delhi gave more details on reports that the taliban have sent in some fighters into kabul. the taliban spokesperson announced that some of their fighters have entered the city, not in a full force, but what they are saying is that is to prevent looting and arson and because there have been some reports of people trying to break into the shops and security forces had vacated some of the posts, so they are very clear that they are going to occupy those places where the security forces are not present, to bring the situation under control, to prevent any looting in the night and evening, so they are not saying we are going to completely take over but one never

troops and the taliban, nor has there been confrontation between u.s. troops and the taliban. over the koerx of the next two hours, we'll be focusing this show on what's unfolding in afghanistan. as you sit at home tonight, you likely have the same questions we do. what does this mean for the afghan people? what does this mean for women and girls in afghanistan in particular? what does this mean for the american empire writ large, and for the seemingly baseless belief that america can change other places for the better? what does this mean for terrorism around the world and for geopolitics. but let's begin this hour in tehran, where humanitarian crisis is unfolding as people flee to safety across the border. ali arouzi joins us live. tell us what you have been seeing and hearing as the afghan people seek refuge in iran. how is tehran handling the refugees? >> well, it can only be described as a desperate exodus out of afghanistan to anywhere that will take them, and of course, iran shares a very long porous border with afghanistan. there's already around 2.5 million afghans li

will it include non-taliban or is it just going to be an exclusive taliban government? is what they really want, and exclusive taliban government, no interference from wannab politicians. of course that would not be a representative government. [indiscernible] making sure they do not rise up in revolt down the road. amy: we have to leave it there but we hope to have you back soon as these developments are fast unfolding. ahmed rashid is a writer and award-winning journalist. author of several books including, "taliban: militant islam, oil and fundamentalism in central asia." and also thank you to ali latifi , journalist joining us from kabul. we will continue to cover this in the days to come. coming up, we go to haiti where the death toll has reached 1300 following a magnitude 7.2 earthquake. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break] amy: "the sun" by emerante de pradines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we turn now to haiti, where the government has declared a state of emergency after a major 7.2 magnitude earthquake hit the c

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under the new taliban taliban administered afghanistan. rob, so we're waiting for this press conference to start because he intends discussions on their own stage. you know, it's, i can show what's happening and various assembled media representatives waiting for this press conference to start at rob say, how is the situation in, in cold today after the celtic scenes that we saw on monday, it continues to be slightly surreal. it is quite a calm on the streets. it is quite tense. there is an uneasiness, the tension in the air. we are seeing far more taliban on the streets today tuesday than we did. monday, yesterday, monday was the 1st day that people really started to go out and about and looking with absolute amazement, in some cases, curiosity, and other cases. these new covers people were taking cell fees. they were shaking hands with them. they were looking at in amazement at these taliban as they took up their positions, manning, roadblocks, and so on. we have seen far more a taliban stream in to cobble the capital overnight from outs

the taliban were back in charge.ed to kabul airport, desperate to escape the country. 0thers hid in their homes. we gave them every chance to determine their own future. we could not provide them with the will to fight for that future. western politicians scrambled to make sense of the chaos. it would be fair to say... the collapse has been faster than even the taliban predicted. what is not true to say is that the uk government was unprepared or did not foresee this. after 20 years trying to rebuild the country, had it all been for nothing? the feeling of abandonment, of not just a country, - but the sacrifice that my friends made. i my friend massoud managed to board one of the last commercial flights out. suhail shaheen has continued to defend the ideology of the new taliban, making a call to me live on air. we're just going to see if we can put you on speaker. but will the taliban stick to their word? or could there be a return to the darkest days of public executions and the extreme suppression of women's rights

the taliban want them back. the government in tashgan is saying they're trying to make some sort of deal with the government in afghanistan. the whole thing is a real mess and it's left the afghan people desperate, displaced and hopeless. >> ali arouzi joining us from the neighboring country there that shares a 600-mile border with afghanistan. ali, thank you. we'll check back with you in a moment. >> describing the situation as desperate and hopeless. >>> we want to bring in chief correspondent of foreign affairs andrea mitchell on the phone. andrea, you have reporting that the u.s. embassy in kabul will be closing once all personnel are transferred out of there. what can you tell us about your reporting this morning? >> reporter: well, this is obviously a huge change, but there are negotiations underway with the taliban. we understand the taliban and their representatives are negotiating for a transition of government, and that the u.s. embassy now instead of remaining open has always been the commitment, will

it is clear that the tallahassee a taliban /* -- taliban are involved. today with greater urgency in negotiations with the president with his advisors with the americans at some location here. it's not clear if it is in kabul. it was said to me by the presidential palace there are no taliban in the presidential palace at this point, having these negotiations. but a lot moving here today. i have never seen a day like this in 20 years in afghanistan. it is seismic and the pace in which the taliban appear to be able to dictate how this unfolds is utterly startling and a chronic indictment of u.s. intelligence assessments. 30 days was their worst idea. we are here right now. it is essentially encircled. you can just see in the fact that there are apaches flying over the embassy compound here, releasing defensive flares thatner not relaxed about getting people out. this is moving out. joe biden suddenly with a wave of his hand it seems bringing 1,000 more troops into country. something announced last night, is a startling move and shows, i think, the urgency

— rights will they have in the taliban context? the taliban is a more extremist _ taliban context?ext? the taliban is a more extremist aversion of l a more extremist aversion of these issues. we usually distinguish between islam as a religious tradition, as part of a complex and nearly 2 billion people strong faith community thatis people strong faith community that is culturally quite divergent and then political islam, where they have different goals which include terrorism, include political violence. we can talk about isis, we can talk about the taliban as having this revivalist tradition. so the idea that the taliban will be using a form of islamic law thatis using a form of islamic law that is faithful to islamic practice, which is supposed to be equality before the law, there is supposed to be equal rights between the sexes, inclusive governments. the idea that the taliban will be practising a kind of faithful notion of it law, i think is a bridge too far, it is quite a stretch, i think. bridge too far, it is quite a stretch, ithink. professor, thank yom _ stretch, ithink. p

taliban fighters are in kabul and taliban officials are in talks at the presidential palace.ul's streets were mostly empty this morning as taliban fighters approached. early this morning, reportedly wiout any fighting, the taliban took control of jalalabad, a key city to the east of the capital then, by midday, the president of afghanistan, asaf ghani, left the country after appearing in a televised address where he made no mention of leaving. one of the top afghan peace negotiators, abudllah abdullah, urged the taliban to negotiate a peaceful transfer of power and called ghani “the former president of afghanistan” >> ( translated ): the fact that the former president of afghanistan has left the country, and left behind the nation and the country in this situatn, god will hold him accountable, and the people of afghanistan will judge him accordingly. >> sreenivasan: there were reports of gunfire at kabul's airport, and the u.s. embassy issued a statement to “shelter in place” and not come to the embassy or the airport. but throughout the day and night helicopters steadily fle

they are scared from the taliban. amy: for more, we are going to be joined by three afghan women who have fled their country -- one left in 2017, 1 left last month but was planning to return, and one left friday for a brief visit to the united states. let's begin with nasrin nawa, who was in kabul until friday and joins us from lincoln, nebraska, where she is a fulbright scholar at the university of nebraska-lincoln. she is a former journalist with bbc persian based in kabul and her piece published monday in "the washington post" is titled "my taliban nightmare came true. i left, but my sister couldn't." in it, she writes -- "since before i left kabul a few days ago, i keep having the same nightmare -- my sister running, sweating and bleeding, followed by taliban fighters on the streets of kabul. then the nightmare came true." nasrin nawa, your sister is a journalist, like you. tell uaps atnewh htoped her on sunday after the taliban seized control and since then. >> she was out of the house like so many other people i