bush. cvn 77 which it will be the last sentiments class aircraft carriers, but the crew built it and presented here in june of i believe. 2019 i believe and they create themself. we had all the sailors of the year from the from the ship here. we bring them in once a year the sales of the year and they come to the library and do a service project. and then we the cases have the shells that were used for the 21 gun. salute at ellington air force base in houston, which is where the body arrived here in texas from the funeral in washington, dc. we have the guest book firm blair house, which is on the page that angela merkel sign and then we have the condolence book, which is turned to. barack and michelle obama and then we also have the program. and from the service and we have the us senate condolence book, which is turned to. mitch mcconnell's signature we have a photo montage of throughout his life. of course. the early life they were married young. he was just baby when they got married and

did not speak out but when donald trump began to call out and dismantle bush's globalist legacy bushlf, then it became personal. >> bigotry seems emboldened with our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories, and outright fabrication. we've seen nationalism distorted into nativism, a fading confidence in the value of free markets and international trade. reducing the return of isolationists. in all these ways we need to recall and recover our own identity. >> how exactly would that be any different from what any prominent democrat would have said that about trump. for bush it was only worth speaking out to defend his own legacy, never to stand up for truth and services. amidst the avalanche of praise for his saturday remarks let's not forget that after 7 years of war, the loss of nearly 5 million manufacturing jobs overseas and the 2008 financial crisis bush's approval rating was in my 20s at the end of his last full year in office. republicans under bush lost the house, the senate, and john mccain double down on bush's record got shellacked by barack obama in 2008. turns

bush.iggest platform he will have for the year may be several years. >> felt like he needed to send a moral message. also lifting people up in an emotional way also. >> were needed before an hitting trunk, one day in october 2017, both men and separates speeches hit trump without mentioning him by name and when benghazi went down, remember bush did not speak out. without a single republican vote, bush did not speak out. when biden created a humanitarian national security and economic nightmare the southern border, of course bush did not speak out. but when donald trump began to slowly but surely called out and bushes globalist legacy, bush couldn't stop himself. then it became personal. >> bigotry seems emboldened. politics seem more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication. we've seen nationalism distorted into nativism. we see a fading confidence in the value of free markets and international trade. we've seen the return of isolation sentiments and in all these ways, we

but bush knew this history, bush actually had grown up playing golf with eisenhower. his dad was one of eisenhower's golfing buddies, because he was the only person who would not let eisenhower win or cheat, and he understood that when people are in the streets, he had a fundamental responsibility to make sure he did not do anything to excite violence, to incite violence, if you will, and yet he saw violence occur at tiananmen, giving him a fundamental problem, which he knew his words could reverberate and a fundamental problem of his response. here he falls back on first principles, which is to say he still believed in free markets, he still believed in freedom. he still believed in inexhaustible spirit of students for freedom, which has been generated by engagement with the pest, would continue to move on so long as we continue to engage them. when other around the country and the world called for bush to remove trade relations with china, diplomatic relations with china, bush, even though he was pill rated in the polls for doing so, argued instead, we should try to

bush library. i want to also direct your attention to a major event we had on december 7th, when peter baker of the new york times will be a guest to talk about his book obama the call of history. we are also happy to tell you that the d-day trip for june 2018 is fully subscribed but we are taking names for 2019 already and you may also know we have established a scholarship fund for this program so that no student should miss a chance to take this journey because of financial need. if you would like to make a contribution to the fund, we would be thrilled. it is really a personal pleasure for me to present tonight speaker, it's hard to believe it's five years since he joined us in 2012, given his many accomplishments of experience he gained on the george h. w. bush school of government and texas a&m. i must say, it was almost as if he had been waiting for our call. and we really locked out. jeff is not just an outstanding scholar and an outstanding teacher. he is an outstanding citizen of this uni

bush's vision was in 1945.f 1945, but finally with a chance to implement it. and pure headed hip krat diplomacy, an empire collapsing, which shouldn't have been the case. thank you all. [ applause ] >>> congratulations. that was a brilliant presentation. really fantastic. [ applause ] we have about 15 minutes or so for questions and answers. rather than a roving microphone, we have two set up here. come forward and present a question, jeff will respond to it. we have a table set up out in the lobby area and when we're finished with this part of the program, jeff will be delighted to sign as many copies of christmas presents, when the world would seem new. i'll turn it over to you, jeff. >> hi, sandy. >> hello. >> early in your talk, you seem to give credit to gorbachev. but if you read the three-volume memoirs written by his son and his domestnic formed policies ux you get a clear idea that, in a way, he set the pressdant that have gorbachev go further. one example. it was crew chauv who saw the need to reform

bush replied, well i do not need to meet with him. so the commander-in-chief had forgotten the name of his top general on afghanistan. when rumsfeld was trying to set up a meeting with bush, he said i do not have time to deal with that. i'm focused on iraq. from that moment, that said a lot about where the bush administration's energy and attention was focused. guest: you write -- host: you write president bush was promising the united states would transform an impoverished country traumatized by warfare for the past century. bush offered no specific benchmarks for achieving them, writing so few people ask press concerns the united states committed to an open-ended mission. those who raised doubts were ignored. guest: that's right. this is another common theme, president bush, president obama, and president trump all promised in public to the american people we would not get in a "nationbuilding program," in afghanistan and we would not get stuck spending billions and billions of dollars trying to modernize afghanistan into a modern-d

president bush return september 11?transition to a wartime president. the president was one of the most practical people i ever had the opportunity to serve at the white house. and nicknames for everybody and knew a lot of the staff so they knew the people in the family members. when he returned he had a stiff job. he was very focused, tremendously focused. to that point, laura bush had been but that is why she was down capitol hill to talk about early childhood education. and his demeanor change. he was still the same person personally and have a purposeful look in my eyes when he returned and continued. >> so the sights and sounds around the white house? what you heard or did not hear into the afternoon through the early evening? what do you remember? >> i remember that chaos and never heard anybody yell get out of the white house. so i did not see until later that evening the photographs that were taken of everybody evacuating the white house on the north side i saw the few people with me on the south grounds and tol

bush.u for your time. >> 20 years ago september 11, 2001, two large commercial airliners flew into the world trade buildings in new york city. 200763 people lost their lives. a few minutes later, american airlines flight 77 crashed into the pentagon killing a total of 189 people. a fourth plane, united 93 crashed into a field near shanks of pennsylvania at three minutes past 10:00 a.m. on that morning. forty-four perished. these events, as everyone knows, or a great shock to our nation and the world. as a small way to commemorate this moment in u.s. history, here are some of the callers to the c-span network the morning after beginning at 6:00 a.m. >> the entire united states to shut down. you are talking people around the country and around the world who are shaken to their roots by this. >> a look on september 11 attacks on this note a book notes plus. listen at c-span.org/podcast or wherever you get your podcast. follow american history tv on twitter, facebook and youtube for schedule up

bush also echoing loudly there. didn't speak today as far as we know but remarkable how similar their messages were. >> all right, jeff zeleny, thanks so much. we're taking in some of the sounds and silence from shanks vil ville and that field where so many gave their lives to protect other americans. that plane was intended it is now believed for the u.s. capitol. garrett graph, you're with me. one of the things about the story of shanksville, it is not just a story of heroism and not just a forgotten part of the story, i mean, people of pennsylvania and families of the survivors, i mean, families of those who perished on flight 93 often feel as though because this took place in a rural area of pennsylvania, not in the media center of washington, d.c. or new york city, it doesn't get the same attention. the story of what happened in shanksville doesn't end on september 11, 2001. some ways it begins. >> this is where you see a disconnect in the way we mem memorialize it. you talk of it as shanksville. that's not whe

bush.eted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world. and no one will keep that light from shining. today, our nation saw evil, the very worst of human nature. >> george bush, in his mind, i think, did understand that something very evil had happened-- and it had happened. it was an evil act, 9/11. it killed thousands of civilians. >> tonight, i ask for your prayers for all those who grieve and i pray they will be comforted by a power greater than any of us, spoken through the ages in psalm 23: "even though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death, i fear no evil, for you are with me." >> but, once you define yourself as good and the other side as bad, it's a slippery slope, because you start thinking anything you do for your cause is good, and we wound up doing some very evil things in the name of goodness. >> all right. sad day. ("star-spangled banner" playing) >> narrator: in those early days, around the world, the lines between good an

bush's speech on september 11th.and that george w. bush should not be lecturing anyone on the threat posed by domestic extremism, wolf. this battle could be simmering for years. >> i think you are right. brian todd reporting for us. thank you very, very much. and to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. i am wolf blitzer in the situation room. you can always follow me on twitter and instagram @wolf blitzer. you can tweet the show at cnn sit room. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. >>> outfront next. biden's entire agenda on the line and he is all in to save it from collapse meeting tonight with key member of congress, can biden make a deal? >>> plus, trump stacking the deck. now, pushing supporters of his big lie to become top election officials in crucial swing states. >>> and we are standing by for a decision by the fda and whether to authorize booster shots for some americans. the former-fda commissioner, dr. scott gottlieb, is my guest. let's go outfront. >>> and good evening, i'm erin burnett. out f

president george w bush speaking in pennsylvania i w bush speaking in pennsylvania earlier.k to honour those who lost their lives. gary 0'donoghue is there for us and joins me live. it has been very striking in today's coverage how president george w bush use that address in pennsylvania to draw a direct line between the 9/11 hijackers and domestic extremists. he even referred to them as children of the same foul spirit. how does that strike you coming months after the january six riots on the capital when supporters of president trump try to overturn the election? t try to overturn the election? i think it is an extraordinary intervention, giving the high profile nature of the occasion today, all the symbolism around 9/11 and symbolism around the second decade after 9/11 and the withdrawal from afghanistan. there is little difference effectively from violence abroad versus violence that comes from within. i do not think many people will be confused about what he is referring to. he talked about people who wanted to take down american institutions, american landmarks, you cl

bush and into the clinton and then the george w. bush presidency., then 9/11 flipped the whole world's attention to terrorism, to al qaeda, and the broader question. now, what is the next chapter of that, the next generation of that? yes, america's longest war is over. yes, there's going to be a political debate about that for some time. what is the next chapter? part of that the cyber. part of that is one of the lessons of 9/11, using technology. one of the, some would say, painful lessons after using drones instead of troops. we're in a whole new chapter and a new debate now. there is no al qaeda on the scale of capability that it had on 9/11. there is terrorism all over the world, as we have seen, sadly. so what is the next chapter? how does the government adapt to the chapter? will the government learn the same mistakes or learn the lessons the point of younger people, will they study the history and embrace it? one of the positive things of 9/11, on the other side of this, i used to live in an apartment across the street here when this building

i had less access than megan or certainly steve had with president bush. particularly with president bush the over whelming impression i had was how different he was from the cartoon character than my academic friends back at duke held their version of him was not smart, not thoughtful, nor not will read inarticulate and reflective. making impetuous decisions. in that that i saw. i saw someone who was deeply committed to the integrity of the office of the president. the notion that he was a custodian of something greater than himself. that he was temporarily a student of but had to hand onto the next person. and had to make sure he left the next person better off than he had been. that was the job of the president to leave the next person better off if he could. i'm not saying he did not make mistakes. of course he made mistakes. but there was a commitment to something that was greater than just his own legacy, his own standing, the way people thought of him. that was inspiring. he was also so much smarter than people give him credit for. i will never forg

laura bush. thank you, president bush, for your words. they're as resonant today as the words you spoke 20 years ago. governor tom wolf, superintendent steven clark, madame secretary, and the president of the families of flight 93, gordon felt, it is truly an honor to be with all of you at this field of honor. we are adjourned today, of course, by the family and friends of the 40 passengers and crew members of flight 93. and we stand today with all those who lost someone on september 11th, 2001. and in the aftermath of the attacks. so many in our nation, too many in our nation, have deeply felt the passage of time these last 20 years. every birthday your loved one missed, every holiday, every time her favorite team won or his favorite song came on the radio. every time you've tucked in your children or dropped them off at college, you have felt, every day, every week, and every year that has passed these 20 years. so please know your nation sees you, and we stand with you. we support you. we are gathered today on hallowed ground. at this

bush 2007 decision to increase troop levels and iraq. megan o'sullivan and peter count the rolls in the decision-making the subsequent effort to document these events and an oral history entitled the last card, insights george w. bush decision to surge in iraq. >> i be remiss if i did not recognize my great friend and colleague, the best present of the best of world affairs in the united states. no it a lot of world affair council members here, jim who very, very grateful to jim for his help with this. so as i said, we've got the players including steven hadley who will be speaking tonight. a truly great public servant. he was a director of the nsc under bush i say public servant and at days when that meant something and it really mattered. and we respected people who hold these high positions. we look to hearing from him tonight. i think now, without even leaving the stage i'm going to get the first panel underway so we can start this. as a college professor to get your notepads out, discussion. were going to start the first panel. i wa

. >> eric draper was george bush's chief photographer. next, mister draper talks about his white house experiences, presidential travel and major events including the 1,september 11, 2001 terrorattacks . briscoe center for american history recorded this interview and archived his photographs . >> it is every 13th, this is eric draper and the reason we're here is because we're celebrating the briscoe center exhibit e. and eric, we're going to get your perspective on these items of your restrooms that are ondisplay . and her journalism archive. i know that we can talk a lot about your background and history of your recorder but given the time, we're going to justwaiting . >> tell the story of how you became the official white house photographer. >> will give you the long story. it's fascinating to me because we never plan on being the white house photographer. it was an opportunity that presented itself and back when i was a with the av most of my career has been in the journalism newspaper wire service business. i was assigned to cover r t

i had not traveled with president bush. it was our pre-9/11 thinking that he was only to mystic trip on a domestic trip so i didn't , travel with him and neither did my deputy steve hadley. i was at my desk in my young assistant who was an army officer, yelled that a plane has hit the world trade center. i thought that's a strange accident. i said was a private plane? he said it was a commercial airliner. i got on the phone with president bush and he was at this children's event in florida , and education event and he , also said that was a strange accident. but within a few minutes if you go through the timeline, it's kind of chilling to realize how quickly things evolve. i went downstairs to have my normal staff meeting within a few minutes, someone handed me a note and set a second plane had hit the world trade center and now we knew it was a terrorist attack. i then went into the situation room to try to reach the national security principles -- principles. colin powell was at an event in peru and he was trying to get b

bush. [applause] and first lady laura bush.plause] i'd also like to provide a special welcome to the secretary of the interior deb haaland. [applause] the commonwealth of pennsylvania's governor, mr. tom wolf. [applause] and finally, the president of the families of flight 93, mr. gordon felt. thank you all. on this day of observance, i'm happy to express our thanks for the devoted support to this memorial by communities like shanksville, frieden, somerset, and countless others over the last 20 years. their commitment and dedication will never be forgotten. we are greatly honored today by the presence of more than 500 families and friends of the passengers and crew members. in addition, literally, millions of people around the world are joining us as a virtual audience. i sincerely thank each of you for taking a part and being here in this special moment to honor the heroes of flight 93. [applause] as our nation continues to work together to fight the global pandemic, we encourage those to wear a face covering. we are joined to

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bush is an honorable man. i really do. that mr. bush is an honorable man. 'p or biden. don't feel anything coming from those guys at all. and another point, too. i think americans are kind of naive, including myself about being attacked and about pain. you know, if you look at history and you look at the casualties that united states has suffered like in vietnam, 54,000, world war ii, 150,000, and then you look at russia, and they've suffered 26 million losses. so, i think it's time that, you know, we start getting the history books rewritten truthfully and we start taking a damn good hard look at what's going on around us. thanks. host: coming up next, we'll talk with david corn and quin hillyer, again, about the impact of 9/11 and the political news of the day. following that, we'll go back to your telephone calls as we talk again about the legacy of 9/11, 20 years later. stick with us. we'll be right back. ♪ >> c-spanshop.org has a collection of products. browse to see what is new. your purchase will support our nonprofit operations. you still have time to order the

bush and george w. bush.k "when things went right" is drawn from his diary of the first years of the first reagan administration. so please give me a hand, help me give a hand to our two authors and we will get started. jonathan, since your book comes chronologically before chase's i'm going to ask you a question that's kind of a two-fold question. number one is how did you find covering the campaign of 1964 in sort of historical time after you had covered in realtime the campaigns of 2004 and 2008. so that's part one of the question. and the part two of the question is how do you perceive that politics changed in that 40-year period? >> thank you, bill. i'm very happy to be here in texas. most of the places that i've been talking about in the book this fall, the weather is not quite this nice and i haven't had need of the charlie crist fan, which i wish we had today under the table, but that aside, i'm very happy to be here. it's a great question. i would say that stepping back from present day political rep

i had not traveled with president bush. it was there pre-9/11 thinking that he was only to mystic trip so i didn't travel with him and neither did my deputy steve hadley. i was at my desk in my young assistant who was an army officer, yelled that a plane has hit the world trade center. i thought that's a strange accident. i said was a private plane? he said it was a commercial airliner. i got on the phone with president bush and he was at this children's event in florida , and education event, and he also said that was a strange accident. but within a few minutes if you go through the timeline commits it's kind of chilling to realize how late things evolved. i went downstairs to have my normal staff meeting within a few minutes, someone handed me a note and set a second plane had hit the world trade center and now we knew it was a terrorist attack. i then went into the situation room to try to reach the national security. colin powell was at an event in peru and he was trying to get back. >> he was the secretary of defense?

you know, bush famously said they and they envy our freedoms. and i was nonsense they, they did it because of 2 reasons. and osama stated very clearly, one was our invasion. so are putting land troops on, you know, in the holy land in saudi arabia. george bush had done that in 1991 to when he went to the war in kuwait. that was a misunderstanding of their culture. and the 2nd reason, of course, was america support for israel, which had intensified over those years and become more and more one sided. those are the 2 reasons that were given. people just kinda lost track of that in the, in those need to get revenge against hussein sadam hussein in iraq. and frankly, if you follow the events closely and i did, i knew one of the people who actually was involved in the c. i went over there and led that horseback charges across afghanistan. they worked the see. i actually succeeded in that in that opperation was one of the few times they have succeeded and they drove out the, the time with them and with the warlords and the northern alliance. it was ov

bush?ush's reputation has been sanitized over the last several years in a way that has worked to his advantage. so i can see that, but you also have to hold him in comparison to the previous president, and while i disagreed with george bush on pretty much all of his political decisions over his eight-year term, he was a stark contrast to what we have had before, and it's very hard to argue that he is not a good and decent man which he clearly is, and we saw that yesterday, and i think the democrats and decent folks on the republican side are positioned to recognize and appreciate the goodness and decency that we're all looking for out of our leadership, and i think it's so extraordinarily important when he pointed out that same foul spirit that caused us to be attacked on 9/11 lives here in this country too, that spirit of extremism, and hatred. we can no longer detach ourselves as americans of good will and conscience. we cannot attach ourselves from the belief this exists too, and we have

bush. so what do you think went into his decision to speak like this, to say this, to make this clear connection between the september 11th terrorists and the january 6th insurrectionists in his message? >> well, from what i know and from everything i've heard, he's been upset about this for a number of years and what transpired over the course of the last few years. george w bush has been actually doing what normally presidents, ex presidents do which is don't say anything, stay quiet, don't go after the former president or current president in this but i think at some point it's added up to way too much. as most americans, they tolerated, tolerated, tolerated and tried to speak out in subtle ways but after january 6th, there comes a point where americans have to make a decision what side their on. are they on the side of democracy and what it means to be in a diverse multi cultural nation or on the side of a autocracy. he loves this country in a way that donald trump has never thought abo

george w bush did, under the pressure from dick cheney and dollar also george w bush did. that's what really turn me off the administration off us policy and company to be outspoken about that policy. you described the intervention afghanistan as being compatible to the, the great game of the 19th century with the protagonist. now, effectively being the man that agnes, the united states and china, it is not a valid comparison. do you think that's where we have no. the gamma son is still if that strategic significance between the, the 2 dominant. what will power? i think central asia is and i've kind of just happens to be central, the central asia, if our playing the grand strategies, i would say forget state building, forget nation building. all those things are cooter months of your presence there. and maybe you can do some things for women, education and so forth. really are there for geo political and geo strategic reasons. and you just described them briefly. you're there because you're right next door to the potentially most unstable nuclear stockpile in the world. th

bush.ant to bring in someone we both know and that is mary fetchet. 2,977 people died in the attacks here in new york city alone just behind us. 2,753 people were killed. brad fetche it was all of 24 years old. a proud graduate of bucknell university. working as an equities trader on the 89th floor of the south tower. brad was able to speak with his dad, frank, in the minutes after the north tower was first hit. he left a voicemail for his mom, mary, assuring her he was safe in the other tower. he signed off with i love you minutes before his own workplace, the south tower was struck. brad fetchet's mother, mary, is with us this morning. she's the executive director of voices center for resilience, formerly voices of 9/11. good morning. thank you for being with us and first of all, your thoughts on this day. you've been a friend for two decades. we check in regularly along the way, but these big anniversaries have a way of focusing the heart and mind. >> i think as you said, it's a somber d

good morning president bush, it's my honor to be on this stage with you, and mrs. laura bush. thank you, president bush, for your words they are as resonant today as the words you spoke 20 years ago. governor tom wolfe, superintendent stephen clark, madam secretary, and the president of the families of flight 93, gordon felt, it is truly an honor to be with all of you at this field of honor we are joined, of course, by the family and friends of the 40 passengers and crew members of flight 93. we stand today with all those who lost someone on september 11th, 2001, and in the aftermath of the attacks so many in our nation, too many in our nation, have deeply felt the passage of time these last 20 years every birthday your loved one missed, every holiday, every time her favorite team won or his favorite song came on the radio. every time you've tucked in your children or dropped them off at college, you have felt every day, every week and every year that has passed these 20 years so, please know, your nation sees you and we stand with you, and we support you we are gathered today

then president bush decided to change his reason. but she would warn iraq and that unity, global unity that was behind the united states, began to fray pretty quickly that after. and so i think it's fair to say that the president printed away ram moment of international unity behind the united states. it is fair to say, of course, that there hasn't been a significant so called terror attack in the united states since 2001 to some degree. is it fair to say that they're the ongoing war against terror? that umbrella, that covers a multitude of different types of a symmetric warfare and different types of operations. but it is actually successful except for the very high profile distractions, if you like, of, as you said, the iraq war. but also of course, more recently, they hurried, removal of us and, and other western troops from us canister on. and i had a very long conversation last week with ali. so find the former f b i agent who was so important so, so much a part of investigations into 911. and he makes a larger point in which i

this was george bush talking from the heart. we knew from sources that he is unhappy with the way that the trump presidency seemed to make everything a battle. this was him expressing his concern that america can and should be better . and perhaps hoping that on this, on the best of the 20th anniversary of one of america's darkest days, that perhaps will be a recalculation recalibration. and perhaps america will look at itself differently and perhaps stretch the hand over to people who being political opponents and hope for something better. as alan fisher bringing a subsidy from shanks fill in pennsylvania, and thank you very much i you're joining, i'll just say that we're here with continuing special coverage marking 20 years since the deadliest attacks on us soil. nearly 3000 people were killed on september . the 11th 2001, remember asians are taking place to remember those who lost their lives that day.

bush. he was still considered strong enough and iraq hadn't turned badly enough for it to hurt him in 2004. and that's a key thing, right? i mean, the idea that fear of an external threat rallied americans to such a degree, but that unity came apart because of the government's response. because of torture, abu ghraib, the war in iraq, the excesses of digging into privacy. all of that unity started to fray. and yet, i was watching "60 minutes" last night and the story of the firefighters from the fdny, you're reminded how bonded together we were. that's not what trump ever accomplished. what thee did was reach to a narrow group of people and say you must be afraid of all these different people. but people didn't buy into that, not enough people. only enough to get him elected, knrut but i think it's a smaller part of what the gop is, to your point, the counterreaction on afghans. >> i tell you, he came out, he's a former president, he wasn't with the other former president. he wasn't there d

the former president has issued a statement attacking bush over those extremism remarks, saying bush,, shouldn't be lecturing you the about anything. so let me get this straight. he's attacking president bush, not domestic extremists? >> yeah, i mean, talk about hitting the low road. donald trump has done it yet again. george w. bush, what he did was heroic. to add to what mark said, it's also where he said it. shanksville, pennsylvania, on the 20th anniversary, i mean, that is, as kamala harris called it, hallowed ground. in pennsylvania you have valley forge, in gettysburg, where lincoln gave the gettysburg address. george w. bush, calling trumpism a malign force in our country, reminding us that it was not al qaeda who hit the u.s. capitol, it was the january 6 insurrectionists of donald trump. so when george w. bush said those remarks, it was bound to get the ire of donald trump and get angry tweets. but in the annals of history, this speech of bush will be viewed very favorably while trump's response to it is just another inane and self-aggrandizing bit of nothing. >> douglas, me