looked at him and i said you will never know. [laughter] >> ed for example hadn't been in the simulator at all. it was my job to land and i had done hundreds of these things and i knew that i could get down maybe not exactly where we were supposed to but i could get down close to it. i would have at least been able to take a look and then made a decision. >> fair enough. >> mission accomplished. tell me about what you did as he remembered? >> of course the first feeling was one of tremendous accomplishment if you will, tremendous sense of realizing that not long ago i was grounded and now i am on the moon. there was that a sense of self-satisfaction i think immediately but then dad went away because we had a lot of work to do but i will never forget that moment. another moment that i will never forget is we had set up some of our equipment and had a few moments to look around, to look up in the black sky, totally black sky even though it was shining on the surface, no diffusion, no reflection. totally black and seeing another plan

i said i've got to make the call. aughter] when i came on, i couldn't even look so the only thing i could think to do -- [laughter] [inaudible] i said it was 100,000 -- [inaudible] i forgot what i had said the first time. [inaudible] i learned two major lessons. one, never get on the air and also never lie. [laughter] >> you talk about how working great for that exact reason because you can make all the mistakes in the beginning you make them in tandem with other people making them which is helpful because your all kind of meeting the past and that's what you did, he walked in march 1971 to this late and to bump up against anti- female sentiment you dealt with up until then, let's talk about briefly the cbs news radio experience you had when you were told you couldn't go but so far. >> i was lucky. it was very clear women were not to be on the air. mary broke through the she had to talk herself out of her story. it was some guy so he didn't appear. i was so horrified when i discovered that. she's very talented, very, v

and i said "why? me bad hips -- big child bearing hips, a bad heart and a bad mouth. so, i said, "what do you mean, like, genetic? and he goes, "basically, it's because of your parents. your -- your mouth is hard at work because you have a hyper immune system. and i was like "what are you talking about? what is that?" he goes, "it's exactly what it sounds like. basically, like whenever you get a little something, your body goes after it. in a big, bad way. he was like, "do you get sick often? i said "no i'm kind of like bruce willis in that one m. night shayamalan movie. and then, he was like, "all right. so which one?" and i said, "you know, 'unbreakable.' and he goes, "oof, thank the lord." not, you know -- >> seth: not "sixth sense," right. not what - >> thank you very much totally. so in any event, man, i was just like, "so, what are we looking at, here?" and he's like, "the idea is when your body encounters a foreign substance, it attacks it with everything as if, like, you're defending yourself a

all right, i just said that for the question was, does it? we can. i said for me, it was an object. well, let's, let's bring in already. and milady have the professor of media and communication at katha university. you've heard, well to guess in tunis, i've said, what do you think the future is? is it a weekend opposition? and a consolidating of power by case said, who's going to simply act the same way been all he did in the past. thank you for the invite me 1st of all, just to make a quick comment with regard to what i've heard from my colleagues. i mean, certainly the issue is much bigger in my view than another itself. yes, another has got his own internal problems in terms of going to get help from within and also the, the government for the last 10 years or whatever. although it's a direct impact on the government was very little. now, the fact that the over a 100 numbers i resigned 2 days ago is a real issue. but my opinion is no other political party running. the government engine is doing the democratic, the condition would have find it easy, an easier to succeed in needing

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right after that, i talked with him and he said do you think i need to get back there and i said yes. we talked about the speech. there was a discussion about some people wanted him to declare war that night. and i think some people were disappointed that he didn't. he clearly was in a war mindset. we decided that the primary mission that night was to reassure a badly shaken nation step he did not declare war that night and we felt mission was one of reassurance. it would pay off. secretary rice was in my office and mica medications people, everybody was giving ideas and lines. i didn't know how i pulled together a speech. >> i want to say he agreed that he should not declare war. the one thing i remember asking him was about that phrase that if you harbor a terrorist, we will treat you as a terrorist. i said given that you want to see about reassurance, do you want to say that tonight? that was the one thing he felt he had to say immediately, that that couldn't wait. that was a policy decision. it was his decision and he said i want you to run this task and i did. i talked to them an

i almost said no. my boyfriend was like, you have to say yes to this. >> i can imagine both in subject matter but also that it had won every award there is. >> i said oh my god, i'm going to mess this up. but it was such a great experience. i am glad i accepted it. it was awesome. >> anthony, do you want to hop in and tell me if you were a comics reader as a kid and how you felt when you saw the finished product of the congressman's life in graphic novel form? >> absolutely. i never once picked up a common book ever. i watched a whole lot of cartoons and my aunt used to always make us read. and probably in older life, in my 20s i was working with a guywho read comics all the time . and they were just around and i would pick it up and read it. use a silver surfer back in the green room i kind of was dating that because i worked on the beach for seven years and i was one of those guys where he serves, i kind of dig it but when growing up, i used to watch cartoons and stuff like that but when you look at a

i think this is a process. that's why said at the front end that although we got off to a very fast start with the first piece of legislation, i don't expect this to be done and asked be in a position we can look back and say okay, did we get it done? into basically the end of the year. i don't mean the vote on the two pieces of legislation related to the economy. i think it's going to take some time. and look, you know, my guess is we all come from similar backgrounds. we never used to sit around the kitchen table in the morning if you the chance to do that or dinner at night with your mom and dad and your brothers and sisters? what did people talk about? they talked about are we going to be able to pay the mortgage? at least my house. what's going to happen if we have another one of those floods and it blows through here like it did in queens? was going to happen? what every going to do? by the way, i don't, you know, i'm just not sure that i want my son or daughter to be going into school with so many people are not vaccina

>> he said i retired as a chief. >> i said really? ck says, you guys should check your classified records. the va checked my classified letters and i found out i got a bunch of high letters from my operation in vietnam. >> chuck invited p.j. to his home in knoxville tennessee. >> i personally saw these awards on the wall at his house up in tennessee. >> what did you think when you saw them? >> i was floored. i said, that's really great, you've got these. he said oh yeah, the finally released them from classification, here they are. >> chuck had an idea. he figured the specter association could benefit from martha anne's high political savvy. >> wow, hey, anybody who volunteers to help is great. >> as the months went by, martha anne carved out time from his schedule to become association secretary. >> she was our recorder. >> yes. >> she was really good at taking down notes and making paper and so forth. >> association members were so impressed with the couple, that chuck was promoted to the board, he and martha traveled representing an

i said, mr. president, i understand that. hopefully you can respect -- he's always been so respectful. he said, hey, joe, i never ask you to go against your conviction. we want to help children, seniors, the rich to pay the fair share. do the tax reform. i am all for it. we want to basically fix our drug prices where medicare, we should be able to. i have been very passionate about that. it's not going to tank the -- >> the house is currently in recess. members are planning to return later today to vote on the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill passed by the senate last month. despite objections from progressives who have vowed to vote against the legislation unless it were to be considered alongside a larger budget reconciliation bill. democrats are still negotiating on a top line number for the religious bill with -- reconciliation bill with progressives calling for $3.5 trillion in spending compared to a smaller number for moderate democrats. both the house and senate approved a short-term spending bill to keep the governmen

so decided i would be honest, i knew she was going to ask what they said so i said yes they did take me things and she said tell me what they were. di sent no, i'm not going to tel you, you're too little, it's not appropriate for here some of the words people say that even though i did tell her what those things were, she started crying because like me, her emotions are this closeo to the surface all the time, it doesn't take much for them to spill over. she asked if i had ever cried and i said yes and that cracked open a little space between osprey you i could ask whatever i wanted and i would get the whole and perfect pure truth i asked her, do you ever wish we were different and you are in a different family that's more like other families? she didn't even have to think about it, she said no, never in a million billion years when i want to be in any other kind of family than what we have and that's how we close out of the book with my magical moment stuck in traffic about this. >> you never know when the magic is going to come. >> i heard a male feminist is ago, maybe 20 yearsec ag

i said go out this door. so they went out and evacuated and as soon as they got out, then the rest of us left the floor. and then i went to the triage center, which i haven't seen a thing like that since stuff you see overseas. keep this in mind, they had two options. they could be passive or use lethal force. they didn't have weapons to be less lethal. pepper spray is not designed to stop a rioting crowd. it doesn't work that way. but they did not have less lethal weapons like rubber bullets or beanbags to put out warning shots to stop before they escalate into lethal. they either had to be passive or they had to escalated to actual lethal force. when they decided to pull a weapon, then you have to use it. you don't have a choice. the lieutenant had to do what he had to do to protect us. but when i went down to the triage center, i saw at least 50 guys, i went down there before i went to the lockup room where everybody was out just to check on them. i went to the triage center first, the holding area. no one

i said, what are you saying? i don't job to his father. glad tell you if i don't, they told you i yes you so be. let me tell you, i sat up with you. i have to give me so much walk so that i will go so to walk. so she said, i only mission cook our systems should say, cool, make food washcloth. when you finish doing that, i will see you on a tie. i don't know if you will be tied up so that you will go to the walk so. so this is how it's op on, on to she while mary locks, she saw that i loved a job on not she was stopped me, no matter how she does. so she left me i did try to work harder for me, but the i in honor of much of the my well why don't magnus bye bye, bye bye. i got it. and i did this is our vaughn, this is go up. this is we had several why if you leave and this is we're all of us about 26 children. we just move out. okay. good can. i'm with my father. i want to be president of vendors from us council to a newer very moment was my dad just to be the one that quoted you, people to going to family. it was giving them money to be able

i said, yes, yes. he said, "i can't see you."re here, please keep coming. and then i looked up and i could see the silhouette of a figure moving. so i reached out through the smoke and there was a hand reaching back, and it grabbed me and it pulled me and tried to help me. >> she explained how she prayed to come out and i told her how i prayed to go in. dear lord, give me the strength to save this woman's life. we answered each other's prayers. >> god called him to order and put him into action and he did not waver and he did not falter. he stood strong and brave and came forward. >> the army awarded me the purple heart and the soldiers medal, the highest medal for valor given during peacetime. i told them i didn't want the medals. my reward was when sheila told me i was her guardian angel. >> god is just an awesome wonder. and it's still to this day and will forever be a miracle to me that i am still alive. >> my name is donald byrd. i'm a choreographer living here in new york city. while i was watching what i thought was debris

and i said all right, i guess that's the best thing to come. >> once they were married, she said, he sick and i would tell him to stop. there were times when he would get angry or frustrated and then he would force himself on me. >> and right beside sleeping children in their one small bedroom. >> he would use the children as a way to get me to cooperate, like if he wanted to, and i would say no, he would be firm about it, he would be like, you're going to do this. the kids are asleep right now, if you make any noise or wake them up, i'm not going to stop, they're going to see everything. he could duct tape me, duct tape my mouth, duct tape, you know, my wrists to the leg of a chair and just to keep me quiet. i was very afraid. again, i was young. >> much too afraid to tell. >> and while detectives searched for more clues in amber's death -- >> then one day in late january 2007 as she watched tv she saw the news of amber's murder and i said, look at this, wow, isn't that crazy. and he just looked and he just said, wow, that's -- he mirrored my reaction to it, wow, wow, i can't believe

right after that, i talked with him and he said do you think i need to get back there and i said yes. we talked about the speech. there was a discussion about some people wanted him to declare war that night. and i think some people were disappointed that he didn't. he clearly was in a war mindset. we decided that the primary mission that night was to reassure a badly shaken nation step he did not declare war that night and we felt mission was one of reassurance. it would pay off. secretary rice was in my office and mica medications people, everybody was giving ideas and lines. i didn't know how i pulled together a speech. >> i want to say he agreed that he should not declare war. the one thing i remember asking him was about that phrase that if you harbor a terrorist, we will treat you as a terrorist. i said given that you want to see about reassurance, do you want to say that tonight? that was the one thing he felt he had to say immediately, that that couldn't wait. that was a policy decision. it was his decision and he said i want you to run this task and i did. i talked to them an

i said i don't have one. i said we could use that. [laughter] that's what he did. >> i want you toca step back evn further because when you walked in the door at npr, they hired you because you were known around town as a dog reporter. you're not a radio reporter even though it was 1974 and 75, there were not people aspiring to work in radio news, you are in the print world and dido not have a radio background. >> and i didn't know how to cut tape or you sound. the first person who taught me on the air live. [laughter] and i have a huge portfolio. i covid the house and senate judiciary committee, some politics and the supreme court. maybe more. we had one program and that made it possible all the time and i was young andnd ambitious and i didn't mind. i had boyfriends but no husband and i didn't mind working. >> did you all get to spend, in the 70s -- and this is pretty hokey and then we will move on to cokie. did you get the sense you were creating something big or were you excited to havet this platform to play with and tell stories?

i said, i want a woman to read my book. i said, it doesn't make any sense. entente about? two men kicked me and imprison me. they have done a lot. i want a woman to read. i said, it is kind of crazy. per se send me man. i said, no, i want a woman to read my book. amy: former guantÁnamo prisoner mansoor adayfi speaking from belgrade, serbia. he spent 14 years at guantÁnamo never charge. he just wrote his memoir "don't forget us here: lost and found at guantanamo." he now works at cage, organization working on behalf of # ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language] [speaking foreign language]

i said mr.brother is staying here tonight he looked on the looked at and said they want us to stay in the bombshells or and he is in the lincoln bedroom? i don't think so if it's good enough for him then it is good enough for us and so then they decided they would sleep on the second floor that evening. so they did not go back down to the shelter. they stayed there. sometime around 8:00 p.m. or 9:00 p.m., i got a call from the west wing and they said how do they make preparations for ms. rice to accept the presidents invitation to stay at the white house for the night? i said you have just done that i will take care of it. obviously she was going to come over at some point in take a room on the third floor. around 9:30 p.m. are in that vicinity, secret service came running into the office and said where's the president and first lady? i said as far as i know they have retired upstairs. we have word another plane is coming toward washington. and we need to evacuate. i said let's go. we got on the

i said tom, i think there is a problem, a mob has broken in. he said, don't worry about that, there will be a swat team on them very soon. i thought, i'm not adequate -- adequately explaining what is going on. tom was waiting on the floor to speak and by then we can hear pounding on the doors. at some point, i can't remember in what order, but i talked to the sergeant at arms who didn't seem too alarmed at the time, actually. and we were getting alerts on our phones, like the canon office building had been locked down. shelter-in-place, and around that point i looked and realized that the speaker who had been presiding was being whisked away by her security team. she is second in line to the presidency the vice president , and the speaker in terms of line of succession. and i thought, we are in trouble here. jim mcgovern, chairman of the rules committee, went to preside to trying keep matters going. >> members will take their seats. the house will be in order. >> a police officer came and made an announcement that the capitol had been breached.

i have to give me so much walk. so those are our go. so to walk, so she said i only mission cook our systems should say, cool, make food was close. when you finish doing that, i will see you on a tie. i don't know if you will be tie up so that you will go to do a show. so this is how it's op on, on to she while now relax to solve that. i love the job on not to will stop me no matter how she does. so she left me. i just tried to work hard for me, but the idea of much of my work was done maggie. bye bye bye bye. i got a job, and i didn't. this is now a bond, this is, i grew up. this is we had several why if you leave, and this is we're all of us about 26 children. we just live. okay. can i'm with my father was the president of vendors from us council newer. very moma was my dad just to be the one that quoted you, people to going to me. it was giving them money to be able to buy crops and all that $1.00 plants is like what i do to the whole world. one was really one. i know your west miss miss i just called friday is the m v of also junior. the, as we see him abo

and this is before i said that i was a politician. and i hate to say it, but he used to wait for me outside of his studio in los angeles, very crowded streets. when i came he kissed me my rear all the time. and then all of a sudden it's like hey, this guy, go back to his old shows. he was nervous to talk to me. he would meet me at the car, i think he might've even open my door. and now it is different, so it is one of those things. it's very interesting and i went into the big event. and we love our first lady, but she said i have never heard anybody boo for you. but he said all the years nobody ever booed. and i said that's what happens when you go to politics. it is true. , people pick sides. those late-night guys are terrible, but you have done a country such a service by garbling of the ratings and you have done such a great thing. >> thank you, mr. president. thank you for doing this interview. >> is a lot of fun, we will do it again. >> definitely.

and i said, "sure, i will."tterly shocking. >> reporter: she checked with her colleague, katie rayburn, and they agreed those text messages warranted further investigation. >> i couldn't believe what was in them. i had to read them a couple of times to really sort of take it all in. >> did it feel like it almost wasn't real what your reading? >> yeah, because you can't imagine someone send that to someone. >> reporter: clearly, it's black and white for you that you know this is wrong. but is it black and white, we're gonna go forward with this. this is a crime. i mean, i would imagine for you it's complicated. >> yes, and -- and with all investigations, it's our duty and our responsibility to follow the evidence where it takes us. and, so -- the evidence was taking us to michelle carter. >> reporter: so the commonwealth's office told detectives to keep digging and find out more about michelle carter. first reaction when you see her picture? >> she's young. she's just a kid. and the words that she was saying in t

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i said i just wrote on it. [laughter] i forgot that i had said that and it went on. thankfully i felt the time but i learned two major lessons. one, never get on without a story. two -- [inaudible] >> you talk about howut working startup was great for that reason because you could make all the mistakes the beginning and you make them in tandem with other people making them which is helpful because were all kind of dreading the pack and that's what you did, he walked in in march 1971 to the blank slate. just to bump up against the antifemale sentiment you had dealt with up until then, let's talk about the cbs news radio experience you had for your told you couldn't go but so far. you're lucky to get in the door in the first place, right? >> i was lucky. it was very clear women were not to be on the air. there's a good reporter, mary gonzales. mary was a very good reporter but had to cut herself out of her stories and right in some guy in the story so she didn't appear. i was so horrified when i discovered that because she was very talented, very pushy but she still had

as i said, i picked a couple of brightguys . to go along with me and there was really a lot of confidence. gene serna and of course was my backup. there's a funny story about cernin. we were at the point about four or five days away from liftoff, schedule lift off. we were all in 21 days after, because of the bug and he was up early in the morning flight helicopter because we all the commanders used doctors to train. and the last few hundred free of the landing. we knew jean was up flying the helicopter. and all of a sudden the door opens and in walks cernin. he is covered with soot. he's got scars on his face. we said what happened? he had been flying the helicopter over the river which was absolutely calm that early in the morning like a mirror and he had been distracted by something or other because he was looking at the land on voyager and he flew that helicopter right into the water. nose over, blades all overthe place . he had rotor blades all over the place. fire because the tanks or saddle tanks on that little chopper, t

i said, bob told me ah, i do still love you women my girl mckelly. i see lady mechanical, we may do me good that my old friend fell in love with me may go though you are this the mon, you go to give you a to us about that day of working with none of our good. the money was big money. let missy sell it for you to live. yes, the village. i see the i was not to do. will the living mckelly? i said the love of lizzie mckelly. you bet us that please let me change my life. we know that you can change the life. that is why today we say we want to take this company. how swan that's almost our 1st house god ramble, saw guys, all of you follow me. let's go to the me with me. i want to do that for you and not let me let me know that was the day. oh yeah. the me the no, no, no. wow. yeah. like me, call them a my like our i thought that would bring my mom that she was almost guessing my mother said no miles, she also brings this grid for this. i'm really trying to live in my family because i'm a friend of my father to travel abroad. went to the us much if you coul

i said, "okay, we have a job to do... ck and wonder, "how did i survive, and 343 members did not?" >> cassano: yeah. i didn't think about it as much. we were crazy busy. i was working 18 hours a day, and then it hit me. i says, "i'm here." you know, i mean, i get home and i'm tired, and there was always food on the table waiting for me when i came home, no matter what time i came home. and, i'm lying in bed, and i ask my wife, "why me?" and she said, "did you ever think there was a job for you to do?" >> pelley: there was "a job for cassano, and others, to do"-- rebuilding the f.d.n.y. when we come back, the children of the lost put on their fathers' uniform. ( ticking ) >> welcome to cbssportshq.com presented by progressive insurance. >> i'm james brown with the scores of the nfl today. steelers scored 43 points in the second half to beat the bills. jones dominated with with five sacks. five tds. and james koox+*er follows the saints in a route to picture. and mahomes pass the browns. saints in a route to picture. and mah

lot of that was out but as i said, it really helped that i knew the people they knew and i knew their friends, i did not go in cold at all. i came as an insider. sometimes i felt like a narrator which is basically offscreen who knew what was going on so that helped. did that answer your question? mckenzie has an interesting question, she's asking when you will learn more about these women, wasn't largely validating with sexism various is your time as a reporter? were there any surprises as you are researching the book? >> oh yes, the best example i think was katrine, she had it worse because she was a photographer in the field all the time. you can be a war photographer without being in the i field tht was the greatest challenge to masculinity, to seek this smalln woman running circles around the men. it was supposed to be male territory, women are notot supposed to be better. the head of the press letter group of other journalists, most of them anonymous and military spokesman who created what they called up military file to discredit her and take away press financials which would ha

i think she said i'll be right back. she left her phone there. and so i began to then, you know, take over the -- overseeing the house. and then i began to hear noises. and wasn't sure quite what it was. and i was told that i should adjourn the house which i did. i recessed -- went -- we went into recess. >> without objection, the chair declares the house in recess pursuant to clause 12-b of rule one. and again, i saw another text from my daughter like what -- why are you -- where are you now? i said i'm in the chair, speaker's chair and i know you are. but why are you there? and i think i may have texted her back like, you know, crazy -- i didn't know what she was talking about. and so then i was anxious to get this proceeding again. and i asked whether -- you know, bring the house back into session which i did. so i brought the house back into session. and i yielded to -- i think it was paul gosar who is one of the people challenging the results in arizona so he could finish his speech. i remember it because listening to him was like fingernails

, and i said yes they said things about me and i said no i'm knocking to tell you, you're too little, it's not appropriate to you to hear the worst things even though i did not tell her what those things were she just started crying because like me her emotions are this close to the surface all the time it doesn't take much for them to double over so she starts crying and asked if i ever cried and that cracked open a space between us were a kid new entre nous i could ask whatever i wanted and i asked her you ever wish you were different and you wish you were like other families and she said no never in a million billion years what i want any other kind of family business. in the book is my little magical moment start in this topic. >> you never know when the magic is going to come. >> you don't. >> i heard male feminist maybe 20 years ago give a speech at a university or something and he said you know a lot of people talk about quality time but there's something to be said for quantity time and that's why i like to travel with the kids, you don't have to be doing so

so i called him back. and he said what's detective robbie's phone number? and i said why? get on the phone with jean and she said we need you now. we need you right now. and i thought something might have happened to her family. and she says, "we found a body in the back yard. " i said, "what back yard? " and she says, "on dolphin avenue. " i said, "what are you talking about? " and so i'm arguing with her. because i had searched that area. >> as he raced to the house, hinson called a friend in the sheriff's department to go to the scene. >> and he called me back. i said, is it a dog? and he goes, no, it's a human skull. and i just pulled to the side of the road to try to compose -- excuse me. try to compose myself like i am now. >> hinson was retired by then, but when he arrived at the house he faced a fact every detective dreads. haunted by the search not made. >> i knew when i got there i had missed her. which is a hard thing as an investigator -- >> you're beating yourself up for that, huh? >> i'm not so much beating myself up. it's just i would have much rather found

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i heard so many stories that they wanted me for drugs. they saide, known drug dealer. i was known, a lot of people know me, but whatever reason it was, you've got the wrong man. this is something that's sort of well known in reviews of innocence cases. when you have a white victim who, tragically, is harmed, we see greater penalties associated and we see greater instances of wrongful convictions related to those crimes. dontae being a black man in greenville, north carolina in the 1990s was central to why he was convicted and central to why his conviction was not overturned sooner. every time i went to court, it was a white man over me, i was in a black and white case. racism was part of the reason why they went so hard — they tried to solve it and get somebody and it happened to be a black and a white. it wasn't until trial that he knew what the evidence was that was going to be used against him. no physical evidence, no fingerprints, no hairfibre, no nothing. not of me. not my... nothing. nothing on the scene, period. the primary witness that the

i said mr.ere tonight he looked on the looked at and said they want us to stay in the bombshells or and he is in the lincoln bedroom? i don't think so if it's good enough for him then it is good enough for us and so then they decided they would sleep on the second floor that evening. so they did not go back down to the shelter. they stayed there. sometime around 8:00 p.m. or 9:00 p.m., i got a call from the west wing and they said how do they make preparations for ms. rice to accept the presidents invitation to stay at the white house for the night? i said you have just done that i will take care of it. obviously she was going to come over at some point in take a room on the third floor. around 9:30 p.m. are in that vicinity, secret service came running into the office and said where's the president and first lady? i said as far as i know they have retired upstairs. we have word another plane is coming toward washington. and we need to evacuate. i said let's go. we got on the elevator going up t

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i said i had a piece in the first half hour.inaudible] i want you to step back even further because when you walked in the door at npr, bob zelnick hired you because you were known around town as a dogged reporter and you were not a radio reporter once again even though it was 1974, 1975, there still were not people aspiring to work in radio news. you were used to the print world and you didn't have a radio background. >> and i didn't know how to cut tape or use sound. susan was the first person who taught me on the air live on the radio. and i had a huge portfolio. i didn't just cover the supreme court. i covered the house and senate judiciary committees, all scandals, some politics and the supreme court and there were ten reporters at npr now. maybe more. but this wasn't in the era that we had several programs a day. we had one program, and that made it possible to do a million things all the time and you know, i was young and i was ambitious. i didn't have a husband. i had a boyfriend, but no husband. in the 70s this is pre-

i heard so many stories that they wanted me for drugs. they saidime, known drug dealer. i was known, a lot of people know me, but whatever reason it was, you've got the wrong man. this is something that's sort of well known in reviews of innocence cases. when you have a white victim who, tragically, is harmed, we see greater penalties associated and we see greater instances of wrongful convictions related to those crimes. dontae being a black man in greenville, north carolina in the 1990s was central to why he was convicted and central to why his conviction was not overturned sooner. every time i went to court, it was a white man over me, i was in a black and white case. racism was part of the reason why they went so hard — they tried to solve it and get somebody and it happened to be a black and a white. it wasn't until trial that he knew what the evidence was that was going to be used against him. no physical evidence, no fingerprints, no hair fibre, no nothing. not of me. not my... nothing. nothing on the scene, period. the primary witness that

i said i will stay with you. he said no, go. nt out the door and across the street i came up to the paramedics who were there i said do you guys need help? they said are you kidding? we startedtriage peopleing and then there was an explosion. i looked up and it was falling on us, the whole thing was coming down on us and we all ran. host: that call on c-span from september 12 of 2001. 20 years later, we are spending the rest of our program hearing your memories from september 11, 2001 on the terror attack from washington to bc and pennsylvania and wondering what you remember from that day. here are the phone numbers. out of dover plains, new york, jan where were you 20 years ago tomorrow. >> let me you my teething. i was working in an elementary school right outside the new york metropolitan area. my daughter was attending dutchess county community college and her class was scheduled to go down to the towers that day. i found out at 2:00 in the afternoon that she had missed the bus and nobody could get any communication through.