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jake work as a team. you heard there from the mpjake berry representing a constituency in northern england, and i will tellhaps he made that plea tonight because one current minister told me that the idea of increasing national insurance which are due saying were hit younger and less well—paid workers disproportionately, that this is a ludicrous idea and those most likely to benefit from social care reforms with the elderly and retired who don't pay contributions at all. another said that it was a stupid tax onjobs. so at all. another said that it was a stupid tax on jobs. so you at all. another said that it was a stupid tax onjobs. so you can at all. another said that it was a stupid tax on jobs. so you can see and hear the restlessness. whether this turns into a revolt i think will depend very much on the detail of what is unveiled tomorrow. for example if the government breaks a pledge not to increase national insurance, can it at least keep a pledge that people would no longer have to sell their own homes if they have to sell their own homes if they have to sell their own homes if they have to go into