i do get annoyed when people try to twist the science to push the agenda people like laura hubbard. should be able to compete on the women's team that causes people who might otherwise listen to your case, it causes them to shut down i'm feeling you are not telling me the truth. i know you're up to something, you're twisting the science and trying to pull one over on me. i don't get is a good strategy. we can grant these science points there is on average an advantage. but let's now focus our energy compassionately and with respect to the case of trans women who have been given the right to compete, for now, in the female category. what do we do about that? if there is a physical advantage on average is there a way for us to somehow equalize that? we need to have the conversation and not stigmatize trans women who want to do what they love it. it bothers me so much it is painful for a lot of people. i am not happy about how the conversation is going or not going as it may be. >> and components of physicality individual ability, depending on what the sports are in the idea of dividin