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i think the nta needs to figure out what they're going to do. it is chilly outside and it is hot down here. for a lot of people at least they have that. she's hungry and she's trying to get home. you bring up a very good point, shimon. >> imagine if this was july in august when it was temperatures reaching 100 degrees, the new york city subway is unbearable. >> reporter: it is hot down here. >> shimon, i want you to stick around as you get more people to talk to. we'll come back to you. shimon doing great reporting down there. he points out definitely it is a big hub, a lot of trains here connect and you can get pretty much anywhere in the city from this connection and there you go at 1:19 and almost 1: 20 in the subway. we'll continue with our breaking news states of emergency in new york and new jersey and a flash flood emergency in the number of areas. this is happening all over the northeast. back in a moment. new dove men, plant based body wash is different. with plant based cleansers. and moisturizers for healthy and hydrated men, skin, re

according to the department of justice, around 44% of those people given ntas don't show up to theirs plays out. even just today, martha, we still saw several groups show up here to this one little spot along the u.s.-mexico border and give themselves up to authorities out here. martha? >> martha: seems like an easy place to do it. thanks, jeff paul. that's "the story" for this thursday, september 30th. but as always, the story goes on. i'll see you tonight on "the five." tune in. joins us there. i'll be back here tomorrow at 3:00. "your world" with neil starts right now. stay with us. >> my top line has been 1.5. i believe in my heart that what we can do and the needs we have right now and what we can afford to do without changing our whole society to an entitlement mentality. >> neil: all right. let's just say that joe manchin is not winning over any fans on the extreme left of his party, progressives a little concerned right now that his revised figure

nta gives an exact date they must report. so there it is. it's a request to check in.t's what the white house considers removal proceedings. so when jen psaki says removal proceedings, she actually means released. we moofl proceedings equal release. it's all a word salad. now, to be clear, that means the vast majority of the illegal residents of bidenville will soon be illegal residents of the united states. that's what it's come to. kindly asking illegal immigrants to turn themselves in to an ice office on their own time frame, pretty please. and we know from past experience that the vast majority will never do this. and the administration knows this. they want more illegals. and it's not just in del rio. president biden is looking to spread the crisis all along the border as dhs is now sending bidenville residents to el paso, laredo the rio grande valley and even flying some to tucson, arizona for processing. well, i should say removal proceedings, which i really mean released. with a plane ticket to the destination of their choice. maybe your hometown. so while bide

the reasons use atrs than nta, atrs about 20 minutes. nta takes about an hour. they want it done as quickly as possible. back to you. >> bret: bill, are the border agents concerned about reports of other big numbers, thousand and thousands kind of coming that way? >> they absolutely are. they are tracking two main groups right now. one about 20,000 in colombia they are worried might start moving north. then they are also getting intel that migrants are gathering in the mexican city clean-up is directly across from the u.s. city of mcgowan down in the rio grande valley which is typically the hot spot. so many resources stowrged this spot right here could potentially leave other orders areas of the border open. however they are keeping tabs on everything going on. they say they will be ready to responder accordingly. better than what happened here. >> bret: bill melugin live on the border. thanks. the white house is mounting a furious defense of growing criticism even in the mainstream media of the president's border policy. howie kurtz will look at the press push

nta takes one out. goal of the federal government is to get this cleared out as fast as possible. back to you. >> sean: there is something deeply concerning. laura reported that migrants surges are a way for enemies to launch a virus attack. she joins us with more. the administration is lying because they are letting these illegal immigrants -- transporting them across the country while they tell us otherwise. i don't like being lied to. the intel people you are talking to. your sources are telling you about a possible attack and people infiltraing the migrants community. >> they call it a virus bomb. you know you have mass numbers of people who are carrying this virus. now you are distributing them across the country. there are a number of law enforcement and intelligence and special operations offensive lines -- officials who are matching out the spikes in covid across the country and mapping out the movement of illegal immigrants. you will notice something. there are a couple of key features here. th

if they're releaseed with ntas or ntrs no, they are not tested.re turned over to non-governmental organizations or ndos. those organizations are supposed to test them. once they're released into out of our custody, they don't have to have testing. they are released into the general population, which could spread the pandemic even further. david: brandon, meanwhile all the cheap shots politicians, primarily democrats have been taking against border patrol agents for what happened with the haitians they were trying to keep out because we do have borders, we're supposed to have borders, but there was none for the past two weeks in del rio, how many of those border patrol agents have actually come down sick with covid, god help them, how many have actually died? >> so we have had more than 10 agents that have died, they are considered line of duty deaths because they did contract covid while on duty. that is at least 10. i believe the number is, i believe the total number is 12. then of course we have agents that are out every single day. we have hund

it is not an nta which is an order, a notice to appear.h stricter telling them an exact time and date of when to show up.ct we'll send it back to you. >> tucker: thank you.'s doing the reporting, thank you. it's awful on everyt level. everything about it is awful. you've gotta ask yourself, as you watch the historic tragedy that is joe biden's immigration policy, what's the point of lithis? nothing about it is an accident, obviously. it's intentional. joe biden did it on perches. but why?n why would a president do this to his own country? no sane first world nation opens its borders to the world. promising the poorest people on the planet that they can have endless free taxpayer funded services if they show up and break your laws? that's not just stupid, it's suicidal. for generations middle class americans have had access to the best ahealthcare in the world, but not anymore. that's over for good. our system cannot handle this many newcomers, period. imagine what hospitals are going to look like a year from now. how about schools? what jo

families and women and children will stay and released into the country with nta.re are so many people here, look at this video we shot saturday. we were on a boat in the rio grande and we watched hundreds of people walking across the river from mexico into the united states. you can see a mass of hundreds of migrants gathering on the u.s. shoreline. bathed in the river and changed clothes and walk over here to the bridge. eventually texas surnld hundreds of troopers and got it plugged up but agents on horse back look at this piece of video yesterday. they moved to a different spot on the river trying to cross agents on horse back trying to plug that up. listen to what the chief of u.s. border patrol had to say yesterday. >> my grants attempting or considering making the journey to our border should know we're still enforcing cdc title 42 order and that they will not be allowed to enter the united states. they will be removed and they will be sent back to their country of origin as mandated under our current law. >> again back out here live. again, it's mostly the

but what can we expect when they are releasing so many individuals pretty much with an nta with hopes and dreams that they show up to their next court date? you mentioned the 12,000 haitians. that's just a small number compared to nearly 1 million that have been released under the administration from january until now. and those 1 million, none have been checked for any kind of viruss. >> harris: i want to unpack that. >> i'm all over the place today. >> harris: that's the lane i want to drive hard in. that number i hadn't heard. it is 1.5 million since the president got into office and allowed to come into the country and have a fantasy that they will show up for court dates. the percentage for people who don't, oh, yeah, it's actually above 60%. on average it takes 891 days to complete an immigration case. even if they do get to court it is almost 2 1/2 years for them to get through that process. but the number that you threw out, art, was one million who have been let into the country. are we not sending anybody back at this point? there have been a few thousand of haitian migrants

mayorkas said more than 12,000 will have their cases heard by an immigration judge referencing ntas ores to appear. migrants are essentially released and have to show up at a later date. the secretary insists they are monitored by us and the system will work. but when you talk to people here at the border involved in local or federal law enforcement, they all say the same thing. they don't believe the civil will work and will pan out just as the secretary believes. liz? elizabeth: jeff paul, great journalism, great to see you. let's bring in for his reaction, former acting i.c.e. director, u.s. borderer patrol chief, ron vitiello. how is this following the law? if they released 12,000, out of 15,000, that means 21,000 are coming here they will release 18,000 into the u.s.? >> certainly inconsistent. the law says if you come into the country illegally you've broken federal law and immigration law on the administrative side. so the idea that those people are supposed to be booked in, put into the system so they can have due process, some who will claim asylum. some who will want an immig

he tells me ncr's take about 20 minutes or so for border patrol agents to process while an nta intakep are horrible, it's third world light conditions down here . they wanted cleared out as fast as possible. you can look at our drone instills you the size of this camp, saturday morning it was about 15,000 inside it's now down to around 6,000. they're getting as many people out as they can, but the ministration song made it sound like all these people we're going to be sent back to haiti, don't come here because you're not going to get incoming you not going to get a chance to stay and that is not true. under this administration catch and release has been happening since the biden administration came into office. the national border patrol council says more than 600,000 illegal immigrants have been released into the country ever since the biden administration came into where this isn't something that just started right now in del rio. we have been at the border all year long and have shown the images in mcallen, texas a busload after busload after busload of migrants being dropped off

reporting from the associated press that these migrants are being released into the united states with ntas and ntrs and we see evidence of that. look at photos. our photographer was on a flight out of del rio with several haitian migrants. one man was put in the x it row and didn't speak english and another journalist alley bradley post evidence these photos on her flight out of del rio saying her flight was full of migrants. some were going to orlando, maryland and new york. we have this situation in port-au-prince haiti yesterday from a journalist there. once the deportation flight landed on the tarmac dhs confirms there were two separate scuffles, incidents, whatever you want to call them where they revolted and three ice agent ended up getting hurt. listen to what texas governor greg abbott said about biden's border policies. >> not only did they ignore us. they said they had more efficient ways to deal with this and now we had at the top of this we had 14,872 people under that bridge. if that's efficient, then our government is broken. >> texas governor greg abbott said he never heard

the family unions in this camp will likely be processed and released into the united states with an nta notice to appear in court with a court date several years downtown road potentially. whether or not they ever show up for that court date, we don't know, but border patrol sources are telling us a lot of people in this camp will eventually be released into the u.s. we will send it back to you. >> bret: bill melugin in del rio, texas. bill, thanks. covering a story that's exploded in recent days. meantime the senate parliamentarian will not allow president biden to pack immigration reform a pathway to citizenship into his huge tax and spend bill and bypass the filibuster rules in the senate. it's a process but it's very important when it comes to this $3.5 trillion bill. correspondent -- congressional correspondent aishah hasnie tells us what that means tonight. ♪ we are the immigrants ♪ mighty, mighty immigrant. >> tonight the immigration battle is far from over, that's the message from democrats, even after they hit a major road bump. plans to shawf pathway to citizenship for million

they will have a chance to stay in the u.s., processed and released in the country with an nta, a noticeappear some time down the road. whether or not they show up, there's no way of knowing. >> martha: and no covid testing going on down there, right, bill? >> nope. no vaccine mandates, no covid testing. >> martha: just a reminder. the president will speak at the u.n. and his signature pieces is how well covid is being handled in the united states and his importance of that is his top issue for his presidency. thanks, bill melugin. the border patrol agency as we have seen is clearly overwhelmed. they need a lot of help down there. look at these guys on horseback trying to push people back across the river. clearly they're coming because the message is clear that it's not what the secretary has said that it's closed. the message is that the border is open. that's why you have thousands of people trying to get across. they added people, civilians to help them at the front lines there. let's bring in brandon judd he says the biden administration is surrendering to the cartels. let's give it

be processed and, for the most part, will be released into the united states with what's known as an ntanotice to appear, or an ntr, a notice to return. at haas check right now -- last check, 12,500 people here. the port of industry above us completely closed, no traffic going in or out, and the situation here remains an absolute crisis. we'll send it back to you. ben ben yeah, bill, those scenes are staggering. have you within able to speak to -- been able speak to any of the people in this camp? why this happening now? why is this happening now? were they aware that president biden had given people from macy protect -- haiti protective status? why are they coming over right now? >> reporter: the haitians know they got that earlier in the year, but everybody just says now is the time to come because they feel that the biden administration is friendlier to migrants. they feel if they can just get here, they'll have a better chance to stay. a man from haiti told me he hasn't lived there since 2016, he's been live anything chile, and he said we need more food, where's the food at, i'm clai

that's according to the nta. also on the 7 line, and this is a local suboperating with delays. so it's happening all over the metropolitan area, new jersey and all over the northeast really. we've got some strong stuff going on. so pedram, clearly it's not over when it comes to what is -- what ida has done and what ida has left behind. >> absolutely. that's the thing people often let up their guard when you see a system be downgrade today a category one, a tropdle storm and depression now remnant and this has origins, history of significant damage. all of that moisture has to go somewhere, and this is one of the last land masses it's interacting with and unfortunately it's going now with a significant bang across this region. >> pedram, there were at least five flash flood emergencies issued wednesday evening by the national weather service stretch from west philadelphia through northern new jersey. dozens of water rescues have been taking place. again, the governor phil murphy declaring a state of emergency right now urming residents to stay off the roads, stay home and stay s

explain how the administration is determining who gets to come in and get processed under title 8 and get nta who is getting expelled? on the ground reporting suggests demographic, not racial demographic but if you come in as a family, single adult, what have you? how is border patrol determining right now who actually gets to stay in and get processed and who gets expelled under title 42? >> sure. so across the border including in the dell rio sector, we continue to infight -- enforce title 42. families and single adults typically expelled under the cdc directive when possible. the determination of who can be expelled or not is determined by a unof in factors including the makeup of the specific family unit, some people with kids who are younger than a certain age are not accepted back in certain countries. we know that from our immigration policy at large long before the last couple of weeks. and agreements with the country and as well as agreements with the country of origin or last residence. as you know, all of you have reported, this is not just a case of everyone coming directly from h

the ntas and ntrs. they go into a system and they're tracked.t those numbers are. i can tell you there are thousands -- over the eight months of the biden administration we have released more than 600,000 people into the united states. that's a huge number when you consider how many people we have in the united states illegally. it is insane what is taking place today. >> trace: we don't know how many of those people do or don't have covid. the vice president kamala harris who has been absent again from this, she is in charge and the border czar, she was asked yesterday about the problems of the haitian migrants and she said this. >> they want to stay home but they leave when they cannot satisfy their basic needs. so this is a concern. >> trace: she is talking about leaving haiti. but they're leaving brazil and chile because that's where they've been for years and they were told the biden administration is opening up the doors. if you want to go, now is the time to go. your final thoughts. >> that's correct. i spoke with many of these individual

mayorkas also says more than 12,000 will have their cases heard by an immigration judge referencing ntasppear. migrants are released and will have to show up to a court date at a later date. secretary insists that they are, quote, monitored by us and the system will work. you talk to someof the people here on the ground, sources involved both at the federal government and the local government here and they just don't think that will pan out the way that the secretary thinks it will. bill. >> jeff paul on the border starting this hour. >> dana: more on this marc thiessen, a fox news contributor and i have to ask the administration continues to say at the microphone the border is closed, period. but then they seem to not change any policy as if there is not a problem here. >> this is a closed border i would hate to see what an open border looks like. mayorkas went to the border last week and said don't come. if you do your journey won't succeed. he just said on fox news for at least 10,000 possibly 12,000 he doesn't really know how many haitian migrants that journey has succeeded. they are

with nta, notice to appears. why so many people here? this remarkable video we shot on saturday. we got exclusive access to go on the rio grande in a boat where we were watching a constant stream of hundreds of migrants crossing the river illegally from mexico just walking across the river over a dam right into the united states right down the road from where the bridge is. you can see the mass of hundreds of them right there. it wasn't stopped until texas dps surged hundreds of troopers down here and able to plug that up. what happened? the migrants moved down river. this was another area where they were trying to cross. texas dps and border patrol on horse back tried to push the migrants back across the river to mexico. yesterday del rio's mayor, a democrat said he tried getting in touch with the white house but hasn't heard anything. take a listen. >> you have been trying to tag president biden on twitter. have you heard from him or his office. >> not directly from the vice president or the president's office. i have been trying to sp

back, actually thousands of migrants have already been released request ntrs, notice to reports, or ntasy mayorkas said the other day when he told migrants, if you come here, you will not be able to stay. it's mostly only single adult men being sent back. take a listen to what the president of the national border patrol council, brandon judd, said. >> not only did they ignore us, they said they had more efficient ways to deal with this. and now we had at the top of this we had 14,872 people under that bridge. if that's efficient, then our government is broken. >> reporter: and yesterday we confirmed with dhs that there was a deportation flight that left back to a haiti, it landed on the tarmac at port-au-prince, and at some point the haitians got off and had a revolt. dhs is calling it two disturbances on the tarmac, but there's video of people throwing stuff at the airport, and is at some point during that three american i.c.e. agents got hurt. thankfully, their injuries are non-life threatening. back to you. neil: bill melugin, thank you for that. to florida congressman carlos gimenez

or children they will not be sent back via title 42, processed and released with what is a called a ntashow up in court possibly years down the road because of how backed up our immigration system is. we're standing by waiting for that secretary mayorkas press conference. we'll have it live for fox. keep you posted. jackie: bell medical medical, thank you so much for the -- bill melugin, thank you for that report. we have former i.c.e. acting director tom homan. you see the pictures. mayorkas just landed down. if you were on the ground what would you say to him? >> i would tell him to resign. he is the secretary of homeland security, from the moment he took that job quickly this country became less secure. the homeland is less secure under his leadership. the surge is happening right now is because the policies that he put in place from the white house. let me be clear what bill melugin just said. i want to foot stomp that for a bit. the chief patrol agent misled the american people and misled the media. i had boots on the ground. i know a lot of people in command positions. 3/4 of hait