. >> i'm so delighted to have this opportunity to sit down and talk with you robin d'angelo if i may call you robin. >> thank you so much, it's an honor. >> i want to begin with what seems like a basic question. it's the moment in the book where you were actually dealing with the kind of tension between class and race. and you told your story. and i thought it really important to kind of begin with your journey to this work. help a little bit about, talk about you. and the way in which your upbringing shapes how you approach education. >> sure. i'll talk about the aspects of my life and upbringing that ithink is so relevant to the work that i do today . the two pieces and one i'm not sure i write about in the book and that is that my mother died when i was 11 years old.she died of leukemia. this was the late 50s, early 60s. at that time didn't talk about those things. it probably seems shocking to people today but cancer was a shameful thing and we were told not to speak about it and when she died we were told not to talk about it. afterwards either. so it was a traumatic experience f

. >> i'm so delighted to have this opportunity to sit down and talk with you robin d'angelo if i may call you robin. >> thank you so much, it's an honor. >> i want to begin with what seems like a basic question. it's the moment in the book