joins republican susan collins that the democrat's new entitlement state will damage the american dreammanchin calls it fiscal insanity. they used to think the same thing under president obama. senator manchin is talking a smaller 1 1/2 trillion dollars in spending. that is twice the size of obama's 2009 stimulus package. plus. new growing backlash for democrats demanding huge fines for violating vac soon mandates. states are facing hospital worker shortages. how labor shortages hitting the nation's ports and supply chains. white house growing list of misleading statements. those statements are tanking the president's poll numbers. we have breaking news, special council john durham, trump russia criminal probe another subpoena for a law firm connected to hillary clinton campaign. we have a look at researchers may have been accessing inside of the government, potentially the pentagon in order to attack trump. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪. elizabeth: welcome to the show. you're watching the fox business network. with us now florida congressman carlos jim

but senator susan collins repeatedly insisted as they were confirming several of these and includingne that president trump had, former president trump had confirmed amy kconey barrett, she believe roe versus wade was settled law. >> i do not believe that breath kavanaugh. >> his precedents overturned. >> he noted that roe had been reaffirmed 19 years later by planned parenthood versus casey and that it was precedent on precedent. he said it should be extremely rare that it be overturned. and it should be an example -- >> so you have obviously full confidence? >> i do. >> well, so much for that. >> yeah. >> so much for that. you know, i think a lot of people -- >> kaitlan, the whole point it has been precedented. susan collins and the dissenting justices last night said look at where our country has been for nearly 50 years to in just after 72 hours of thought essentially as justice kagan said to effectively reverse it is a major development. >> jeffrey, go ahead. >> well, no. it just -- i don't know if susan collins was deluting herself or being dill luted or simply lying or was lie

is susan collins wrong? >> everybody knew it was false at the time.hat it's false today. justice kavanaugh was among the justices, all of the trump justices voted last night. again, just in a couple of paragraphs to ban abortion after six weeks. again, rowe v. wade said a woma or pregnant person has a right to end their pregnancy before viability. last night the supreme court in a kind of dashed off, past its deadline order not even really explaining its reasoning but just kind of finding this procedural, technical excuse undermined that and made abortion illegal starting in texas at six weeks and many providers are now going to either shut their doors or offer very limited service because they cannot risk the kind of bounty hunters, vigilante justice. when justice kennedy retired, donald trump won and he promised to appoint justices who he said would automatically overturn roe v. wade, everybody knew this would be the end game. >> kaitlan, can i just add, part of what's so stunning about this, this doesn't preserve the status quo at all, right? you'v

senator susan collins calls the texas law extreme and harmful and in a statement says that she opposes court's decision to allow the law to remain in effect for now while these underlying constitutional and procedural questions are litigated. the keywords here, "for now." for now, it is indeed the law in texas. and could quickly become the law in many other states. let's hope the decisions of the lone star state do not become our judicial north star. congressman jamie raskin is here. what's he think democrats' priority should be when all this is going on? i'll ask him, right after this. in the romo household we take things to the max oh yeah! honey, you still in bed? yep! bye! that's why we love skechers max cushioning footwear. they've maxed out the cushion for extreme comfort. it's like walking on clouds! big, comfy ones! oh yeah! (announcer) carvana's had a lot of firsts. 100% online car buying. car vending machines. and now, putting you in control of your financing. at carvana, get personalized terms, browse for cars that fit your budget, then customize your down payment and monthl

the only two pro choice republicans susan collins, lisa murkowski. susan collins told me she wasn't going to vote for this. it goes too far, and two democrats. we don't know where they stand on this. joe manchin and bob casey of pennsylvania. >> lee ann caldwell on the hill. keep us posted on the vote. >>> a lot to get to this hour. for a special look at how to keep kids safe in school, we'll go live to chicago where a testing and tracing program parents will promise still isn't up and running. a month into the school year. what parents and teachers are demanding now. >>> also bonuses. virtual learn, even sending home now hiring fliers in lunchboxes. school districts all over the county desperate to hire teachers. i'll talk to one california official about his district specifically that has 50 classrooms right now without a teacher. >>> and our doctors are standing by as well. they're going to be answering your questions about keeping kids safe in school. you can send us the questions at talk@msnbc.com. you can tweet them to us #msnbcanswers. keep th

that standard something that senator susan collins pointed to when supporting her vote to put justiceavanaugh on the bench. >> i do not believe that brett kavanaugh will overturn -- >> precedents are overturned -- >> he says for a precedent, a long established precedent like roe to be overturned, it would have to have been grievously wrong and deeply inconsistent. >> well, justice kavanaugh was part of the majority that didn't fight to honor that precedent. senator susan collins calls the texas law extreme and harmful, and in a statement says that she opposes the court's decision to allow the law to remain in effect for now while these underlying constitutional and procedural questions are litigated. the key words here, "for now." for now, it is indeed the law in texas and could quickly become the law in many other states. but let's hope the decisions of the lone star state do not become our judicial north star. congressman jamie raskin is here. what's he think democrats' priorities should be when all this is going on? i'll ask him right after this. finish quantum, nh you save up to 2

susan collins for one putting out a statement said that "the texas law is extreme and harmful," she sayspose the court's decision to allow the law to remain in effect for now while these underlying constitutional and procedural questions are litigated." it's the same susan collins who went out of her way to justify her support of one of the majority justices in last night's ruling on the basis of his commitment to precedent. here she is promising that not only wouldn't brett kavanaugh try to overturn roe he wouldn't even try to undermine it, which is exactly what his vote last night did. >> there has also been considerable focus on the future of abortion rights based on the concern that judge kavanaugh would seek to overturn roe v. wade, protecting this right is important to me. in short his views on honoring precedent would preclude attempts to do by stealth that which one has committed not to do overtly. >> now, agree or disagree on abortion or roe v. wade this appears dpooktly what the majority did overnight. perspective now from cnn chief legal analyst and supreme court historian jef

i want to remind everyone what senator susan collins said several times when she was pressed on whatustices were going -- was going to be. and, of course, what she said she believed was a settled matter when it came to roe v. wade. >> i do not believe that brett kavanaugh will overturn -- he noted that roe had been reaffirmed 19 years later by planned parenthood versus casey. it was precedent on precedent. he said it should be extremely rare that it be overturned, and it should be an example -- >> you have obviously full confidence. >> i do. >> re >> aryan, what do you make of that now? >> reporter: what is so interesting about this is the court in its upcoming term is going to hear a case concerning mississippi, and a mississippi law. this time the court is going to have briefs, it's going to have full oral arguments. it's going to issue this robust decision. and right there, maybe they won't completely get rid of roe v. wade, but they certainly, and now we know this from last night, they are going to cut it back. but the atmosphere, the terrain is also going to be different because

susan collins, for one, put ougt a statement today that texas law is extreme and harmful, she says.rt's decision to allow the law to remain in effect for now while these underlying constitutional and procedural questions are litigated. it's the same susan collins who wept out of her way to justify her support of one of the majority justices in last night's ruling on the basis of his commitment to precedent. brett kavanaugh tried to overturn roe, he wouldn't even try to undermine it, which is exactly what his vote last night did. >> there has also been considerable focus on the future of abortion rights based on the concern that judge kavanaugh would seek to overturn roe v. wade. protecting this right is important to me. in short, his views on honoring precedent would preclude attempts to do by self that one has committed not to do overtly. >> now, agree or disagree on abortion or roe v. wade, this appears to be exactly what the majority did overnight. perspective now from cnn chief legal analyst, jeffrey toobin. jeff, what is that 5-4 split among the justices tell you about the fate

like maine senator susan collins. >> how can you be -- or are you 100% certain, without a doubt, thatavanaugh will not overturn roe v. wade >> i do not believe that brett kavanaugh will overturn roe v. wade. >> 'cause precedents are overturned all the time. >> they aren't overturned all the time >> more than - >> and listen to the standards that he put forth -- >> yeah. >> -- in his conversation with me, and also in the hearing. he says for precedent, a long established precedent, like roe, to be overturned, it would have to have been grievously wrong and deeply inconsistent. he noted that roe had been reaffirmed 19 years later by planned parenthood versus casey, and that it was precedent on precedent. he said it should be extremely rare that it be overturned, and it should be an example. >> so, you have obviously full confidence >> i do. >> seth: if you ever see susan collins on your tv telling you it's going to be 80 degrees and sunny out, grab that umbrella and among the many horrifying and heinous aspects of this bill is the fact that the texas lawmakers behind it can't even defen

susan collins had that conversation. right. kevin ott, and there was a sense of like okay, know they're going to do this by so there's a sense of being, i guess. >> sheets and the but i have to say that advocates reproductive advocates the country have been preparing for this isn't a shot and there is >> a good beginning of that and sort of network of response that will need in order to keep people safe even in states where it remains illegal. >> so keeping people safe. one part of the issue now, but also the future of roe v for the broader picture. what is it that president biden can really do at this point since the supreme court is usually the a court of last resort for things like this. >> i don't think there's much that he can do it try to get a federal lockup down past i wouldn't hold out hope for i think we're looking at a return to the states and at least 22 states have indicated that they're inclined to make abortion illegal. so i think it's time to start for what we'll do in that world to protect votes. largely becaus

intelligence reform bill, which, it is not work out how we wanted it, but that was jane and myself, susan collins, a moderate republican, and joe lieberman, and independent. we got into the room every day and hashed this out knowing we needed to get something done to keep america safe. our focus was not on democrat, republican. it was, this is the problem, we have the background, we became friends, we recognize that we had to get this accomplished and we all sacrifice some of our own ideals and what we thought needed to be done just to make sure we got a solution. fred: thanks. >> when and why did the magnificent coming together of all americans after 9/11, waving our flag in use and disappear into partisan political rhetoric? fred: i am not sure exactly. iraq led to that, going to iraq, the lack of weapons of mass destruction. then the 2006 election was where the turning point, from my perspective, was. to have a symbol of the united states being viewed as republican or democrat, serving in the netherlands as the ambassador, it was heartwarming, because i noted the dutch, when it came to memoria

where talking senator susan collins, tom and marsha blackburn sending a letter to the white house saying exactly what's going on. what is your take on this story? >> the first take -- a lot of folks don't know what's going on so for anyone to say they north going on, the congressman already alluded to the stories always changing. i think there's going to be investigations as a congressman alludes to, but the penetration is going to be required to have to lay that out and it's going to beer important what general s breaking out in d.c. -- the president mistaken during the evacuation, get across america behind not just giving the taliban control of the state department and homeland security and the white house fighting about who caused the delays, that m means there sticking to this arbitrary deadline put in place. that meant you were not met up waving their passports saying we are american they got stranded is that what your take is? >> it commands each one of the officers were handling cases to try to help them get out. we had over 750 cases we were working on, there are still others lef

senators jeanne shaheen and susan collins demanded accountability in a letter to antony blinken aftertate department employees were denied treatment of walter reed. if this were a soldier injured on the battlefield. there would be no question about getting his or her term. matic brain injury treated new legislation will provide reimbursement for medical bills associated with havana syndrome. i consider this to be an attack. on the united states of america. more than 200 officials have experienced these apparent brain injuries, including a member of cia director william burns his team on a recent trip to india staff working for vice president kamala harris were targeted on a recent trip to vietnam. it's real. it's affecting our officers is affecting others around the community and in government and we're going to figure it out. the cia has enlisted members of the team that hunted bin laden to figure out who is behind these attacks. and if they've shared these weapons with other adversaries at the pentagon, jennifer griffin fox news. we don't have a voice anymore. they make laws in here

we got susan collins was going to lose. we do not win that see. manchin has performed an incredible feat that he wins by a lot in west virginia. i do believe there is any other democrat that could win that see. and self if you have to come don't of that to meet him in the middle of where he is and he has been saying to stuff it must that he is going to end up at 1.5 trillion, that is what you do see. there's still a lot of good stuff in there. >> yeah, i don't know. i think it is also a place like north carolina, virginia, texas, where people are starting to pull away from these ideas. and the support of these ideas when you look at their support for president biden. >> i disagree. shocker. there's no good stuff in there. this is a forest fire of -- you might as well fleshed your money down the toilet before the government gets it. because it will actually be better spent. whatever the government spends money on, it destroys it. you have $3.2 trillion spending bill. to think we would ask the basic question. what are we buying? we are buying govern

on our air at msnbc talking about the trump presidency, i keep going back to where are senator susan collinsre are their vows? are they so cowed by either donald trump or the people that support donald trump that they live more in fear of him/them than they are about the crumbling of the republic around them? steve? >> look, i think it's -- sorry, go ahead. keep going, stewart. >> go ahead, stewart. >> i think it's a party that followed senator romney when he called out trump in the spring of 2016 when he voted for impeachment. the country would be in a much safer place and the party would be on a path to redemption. it's an absolute failure to meet the moment and this is how democracies end, not with tanks or tv stations anymore, but at the ballot box and in the courtroom and that's the path we're on. >> steve? >> lincoln talked about this in 1838. he said all of the great armies of europe together marching on america, they could be transported here, that they would never take a sip of water from the ohio river. that if our lot is to be destruction, it will be by our own hand. it will be a

we just got at statement in from republican senator susan collins of maine calling this law in texasrepublicans have successfully uses the court as a real base motivator. on the democratic side over years past it's certainly helped to raise money and can get enthusiasm up among the grass roots groups but it hasn't netly been a vote-deciding issue for them to win elections with. now with this as a real and present danger to abortion rights, something that democrats clearly fight for time and again. will this become a real show the raising issue, but actually persuading americans to their side to abortion rights. we know the majority of americans support "roe v. wade" and abortion rights but it's a different scenario when you look state by said and the need to win elections to get legislators in place so that your preferred policies come out and that's the preferred challenge and that's why court packing is not on the top of joe biden's agenda. the justice department is, quote, evaluating all options to prosecretary the constitutional rights of women. what options does he have right no

republican senator susan collins laying out what is at stake. she is one of them. watch. >> the expensive entitlement programs the administration is proposing would have profound implications for people's lives and for the values that are -- >> harris: it is so fascinating to hear them and hear your words still ringing in the air like a thought bubble compliance and reliance. >> yes. you know what i was thinking about when you played that bill clinton clip. indulge me for a moment. i spent the last five years in the world of sports. i have other friends as well clay travis who contributes here at fox, jason whitlock who have played in the sand box if you will of mainstream media. another great example of this is bill maher. is he turning into a conservative? that is not what happened. they say will you've changed. what has changed is the world around me and gotten increasingly radical pulled in a further radical left direction. listen to bill clinton in the 1990s. that was the left talking about the dignity of work and reducing reliance on welfare. fast forward and

here is susan collins saying no one had anything to worry about if these trump's justices got on the overturn -- >> i could not vote for a judge who demonstrated hostility to roe v. wade. >> a long established president is not something to be trimmed. >> i asked him is this sufficient if five current sitting justices believe that roe should be overturned and he said no. >> is this the supreme court quote, "reaffirming roe" this week? >> no. it is definitely not doing that. and you know there is this phase. if a couple of months the court is very clear of a direct channel to roe. in the case of mississippi, of 16 weeks. the state is asking the court to overturn roe and a number of conservative groups and pro-life groups are doing the same. there is opportunities for the court. chief roberts had always been hostile to abortion rights in general. that six or five members of the court would constitute a majority to overturn roe. in the meantime, we've got the states. to be fair, ari, the court majority said, look, we're not ruling on any constitutional question here but we shouldn't take

i think manchin and susan collins are exactly right. be so bad. in the meantime what's happening is the fed is buying up all of the debt that the treasury is issuing. the fed is buying 60-70% of all of the bonds that the treasury department issues to pay for things that we don't have money for. and out of course causes inflation because the way the fed pays for it is to get them to print money and that causes inflation. so just with the spending we've done so far, the trillions over the past year and a half were having inflation spending. you add just 1.5 trillion, i can't believe i said just before 1.5 trillion but that is what manchin is saying he could go for. that will do even more to create this process by which we have inflation. no money printing process. >> anita: and you can really feel it, the prices for everything are going up. i went to a restaurant in new york recently that i loved in the menu was like this big. they can't make normal things on the menu because they don't have enough workers. >> and that workers now have to

and the republican party will be largely complete in 2024 by mitt romney and susan collins. >> if history history says they'll gain, say hello to speaker kevin mccarthy. >> that's true, i think the odds are that republicans will take back the majority at this point. they only need five seats to do so. they could conceivably get that through the redistricting process alone. they control big states like texas and north carolina and georgia. democrats have the opportunity to gerrymander in illinois and new york. even though, the historical value out of the white house picking up a couple dozen seats, that's far more than the five that republicans need to make kevin mccarthy speaker. and democrat, by the way, they've got more problematic retirements on their side as well. so the odds favor republicans. >> david wasserman, excellent. thank you so much for coming back. >> thanks for having me, michael. >> checking in on your tweets and facebook comments. this comes from twitter i think. what do we have? trumpism is very much alive and the gop will be destroyed because of it. joe z, this is bigg

>> watch cornell, let's talk about susan collins, senator collins.he is called this law extreme and hurtful but she is getting some kick back on this. because she supported the appointment of justice kavanaugh, with the understanding that he would not work against roe v. wade. >> she has to own this. she was very vocal and out front about how wet is happening would happen, because of the vote for kavanaugh, and a vote for some of these other issues. she gave us assurances that what is happening would not happen. but in fact kavanaugh turns out to be exactly who we thought he was. but i have to double down on the point that my friend on the right was making here. and that is that i think republicans have perhaps awoken the sleeping giant. and i say that because he's right. this has been a primary voting issue for republicans. but voters in the middle of the electorate, especially women voters, it has not been a energizing voting issue for them. i tell you this, the moment that white women, college educated white women in the suburbs, who have been hel

the white house is still blocking 26 senate republicans including susan collins and tom cotton finding many americans are trapped behind terror lines. we have the pentagon chief and joint chief chair testifying before your senate armed services committee coming up in a couple of weeks. what do you want to ask them? >> i was going to be asking was there a withdrawal plan? did that plan include leaving americans, our afghan partners and our allies behind enemy lines? did it include turning over bagram airfield and all of the equipment, the billions, tens of billions of dollars in equipment? did it include giving that to the taliban to arm them up? did they think about the implications of having a war on terror, fighting an ideology and terrorists and now what do you do? you give them a country where they can say now we have a country, now we have a safe haven, we can begin to export terrorism? did you think about china and the ties to china? and china wanting rare earth minerals, we did the time doing all the mapping, where they are located. did you think about that? did you think about

west virginia susan collins, a middle person.he people -- joe biden, i respect a man if he had a press conference. there is no press conference with this man. he's told what to do. they give him something to read and they swish him off the stage. host: did you watch on friday? he took questions from the white house press corps on friday. caller: oh, come on, be honest with yourself do you really think that he does what donald trump does? donald trump did some crazy things but this man here will not take questions off the cuff. it's just -- it's as an american citizen, who is the president of our united states? i need someone to actually sit down and give us a couple of hours of real questions. that's all. it scares me. he's our president of the united states and he cannot take questions from regular people. he can't do it. i just want to see him sit down with a group of people. nothing recorded. no answers and just takes real questions. that's all i'm asking as an american citizen. host: this is benny, jacksonville, florida. demo

of the debt ceiling or the suspending of the debt ceiling to pay the previous bills and senator susan collinsoesn't like this idea. correct me if i'm wrong, she voted to suspend the debt ceiling three times during president trump's presidency. what's changed? >> the president, i think, has changed. suddenly, republicans have found religion when it comes to the debt. if i'm correct, that the debt rose by $7.8 trillion under donald trump. i mean, the debt is pretty outrageous right now. it's about $28 trillion. we all understand that's too large. but finding religion now about raising the debt ceiling, these are bills that need to be paid. these are bills that were incurred, say, because of covid and over the years, and now, for republicans to suddenly say, well, it's the democrats' responsibility to do this because they're the ones doing the spending, we're talking about the spending that was done previously and not necessarily the spending that is coming up. so, they want the democrats to do this on their own. i believe the democrats will do it on their own if they have to and the republicans

street, and you know, the rich donors and the corporate leaders will come to mitch mcconnell and susan collins mcconnell and lisa murkowski and they are, and the rob portmans, and they have just been re-elected and we will get ten votes, but it is not happening. one other point here, and this is going to remind me of the merrick garland situation of 2015. >> do it. >> and i remember sitting in the white house and talking to denis mcdonough, the then white house chief of staff, and he is going to fold on garland's nomination for the supreme court, and said, respectfully, you are wrong, this is mitch mcconnell. and democrats hypnotize themselves, and he is exactly who he is. >> and that is why people need to spend more time reading the punch bowl and bresnahan and your pals there, and not believing the left wing twitter. thank you, and we will be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily." and check the chuck toddcast, and we will unpack california and how it applies nationally. we will have much more msnbc news daily with geoff bennett. . n to apply with sofi loans, just based on the intere

susan collins and lisa murkowski said they were sure, convinced that all the trump nominees to the supreme court certainly recognize roe versus wade as settled precedent. they would never mess with that. let's not be melodramatic. legal abortion is safe in this country in a permanent way. well here we are. you ever wondered where you'd be and what you'd be doing, what it would be like for you when roe versus wade came to an end in america and abortion started to be banned in america? well, wherever you were today and whatever you were doing today and whatever it was like for you today, that's your answer. >> i'd like to take a moment to share with you all what the final hours of legal abortion care looked like in texas last night. whole woman's health has staff and physicians providing abortions in texas until 11:56 is the time we finished our last abortion in ft. worth last night. our waiting rooms were filled with patients and their loved ones in all four of our clinics yesterday. we had a physician who has worked with us for decades in tears as he tried to complete the abortions for all

i have sponsored bob menendez and susan collins to do this.tand this because it will happen again. in my view, the increased polarization in our government, in our politics is itself a homeland security threat. i worry that if there were another 9/11 our government and our nation today could not respond in the same, unified way as we did 20 years ago and the proof of that is how we've responded to covid. how we view covid and how we view the vaccine has broken down along partisan lines, and so the increased polarization in our democracy itself is a security threat, and i hope more and more americans will recognize that. >> thank you very much, and secretary johnson, as i bid you an early happy birthday as happy as it can be on 9/11 ever, we do have breaking news from qatar because we have pictures of that plane carrying 200 americans and other evacuees just landing in doha. they're safe in doha right now after the taliban cleared that flight from kabul and it's the first international flight from the kabul airport and the flight is the first t

moderate republican, susan collins of maine also tells nbc news she was against some of the changes inith minute majority leader mitch mcconnell to pitch voting rights. he left the meeting telling reporters he was, quote, optimistic, but mcconnell doubled down on the party's complete opposition. >> there is no rational basis for the federal government taking over how we conduct elections in this country. every state conducts elections differently. you're watching some states pass their laws, based upon the experience we had last year, during a 100-year pandemic. what do all of these new laws have in common? none of them, not one, is designed to suppress the vote based upon race. so, there is no reason for the federal government to take over how we conduct elections. it is a solution in search of a problem. and we will not be supporting that. >> some democrats are reportedly now hoping that thisological show senator manchin that bipartisanship is impossible for voting rights and may get him to back the filibuster exemption. joining us now, co-founder of punch bol news, anna farmer, she'

non-existent, even republican senators who have made overtures to democrats before, people like senator susan collins of maine, have said that they feel that this bill goes too far as someone who has covered women's marches, the 2018 kavanaugh supreme court justice hearings, this is the issue that energizes the democratic base like no other. the midterms come next year. there is so much pressure from the grassroots for democrats to exercise themselves as the majority party here. if they were to come to a place where roe v. wade hangs in the balance and democrats didn't save that, this could turn the entire 2022 midterms on their head from the grassroots and in congress so if you thought the fever pitch was high already for democrats to ditch the filibuster, this issue will bring it higher. >> no doubt. ali vitali, thank you. >>> the white house goes on defense facing outrage from both sides of the political aisle this time over that crisis at the border >>> plus, homeland security stopping the horse patrols in del rio, texas the decision to dismount and a new resignation. >>> the lava slowing down. s

ambassador pamela separate pland susan collins demanded accountability to antony blinken after stateartment employees were denied treatment at walter reed. >> if this were a soldier injured on the battle field there would be no question about getting his or her traumatic brain injury treated. >> new legislation will provide reimbursement for medical bills associated with havana syndrome. >> i consider this to be an attack on the united states of america. >> more than 200 officials have experienced these apparent brain injuries, including a member of cia director william burns team on a recent three-point india. staff working for vice president kamala harris were targeted on a recent trip to vietnam. >> it's real. it's affecting our officers. it's affecting others around the community. and in government. and we're going to figure it out. >> the cia has enlisted members of the team that hunted bin laden to figure out who is behind these attacks and if they have shared these weapons with other adversaries. bret? >> bret: jennifer griffin at the pentagon. jennifer, thank you. up next, a

talking senator susan collins, tom cotton, marsha blackburn sending a letter to the white house to tells exactly what is going on. what is your take on this story? >> the a lot of folks don't know what is going on. for anyone saying the anyone knows what is going on the congressman alluded to the fact things are changing. there will be a raft of investigations as the congressman alluded to, a raft of investigations that the administration will be required to lay that out and it will be very important for the american people to get that story. elizabeth: to what the general is saying, congressman, here is the painful debate breaking out in d.c. the president's mistkakes doing the evacuation, did it cause americans to be stranded, left behind enemy lines? not just giving the taliban control of the airport, as we have got the pentagon, state department, homeland security department, the white house fighting about who caused the delays that means they were sticking to this arbitrary deadline that the president put in place. that meant you had crowds rushing to the airport. that meant americ

five justices gorsuch and kavanaugh are sitting on the bench thanks to one main senator named susan collinsrecedent of roe. collins delivered a 45-minute speech going to the mat for brett kavanaugh accused of sexual assault. insisting that he would in no way trim or narrow a woman's reproductive rights. >> to my knowledge, judge kavanaugh is the first supreme court nominee to express the view that precedent is not merely a practice and tradition but rooted in article 3 of our constitution itself. as the judge asserted to me a long established precedent is not something to be trimmed, narrowed, discarded or overlooked. in short, his views on honoring precedent would preclude attempts to do by self that which one has committed not to do overtly. >> mind you, her reliable republican ally senator lisa murkowski of alaska announced she would break with her party and vote for against beer chugging judge. collins vote helped deliver the 50 votes kavanaugh need and by doing so the so-called ally of abortion rights co-signed their demise. at the time collins was pressed by cnn's dana bash if she was

cornell, let's talk about susan kol lin, senator susan collins who has called this texas law, this decisions getting some kickback on this, because she supported the appointment of justice kavanaugh with the understanding that she believed or she conveyed that he wouldn't work against roe v. wade. >> yeah, she has to own this, right. she was vocal and out front about how, you know, what is happening would not happen because of the vote for kavanaugh and others she has voted to put on the supreme court and gave us assurances that what is happening would not happen, but in fact, kavanaugh turns out to be exactly who we thought that he was. but sort of double down on the point that my friend on the right was making that republicans perhaps have awoken a sleeping giant, and i say that because he is right, this is a primary voting issue for republicans, but voters in the mid of the electorate and women voter, it is not an energizing voting issue for them. i tell you that the moment that white women, college educated women in the suburbs who have been helping the republicans hold on to congress a

there are pro-choice republicans including lisa murkowski and susan collins. to get around the filibuster and there's no indication the two holdouts manchin and sinema are moving on that. the likely scenario is they can move this through the house but probably going to get stranded in the senate. >> sahil, you brought up senator joe manchin, he's in the news for a different reason this morning because he on this issue of reconciliation and infrastructure he wants a strategic pause on the movement of that front. he has this op-ed. chuck schumer needs a yes from him and every other democrat to pass the bill of reconciliation. pull out your manchin english dictionary and explain what a strategic pause means and what you're hearing from your sources in leadership and democratic side whether that can even happen. >> that all depends on what is going on in the mind of joe manchin. he did not define these terms and did not say what a strategic pause means. the thing to know in the op-ed the only red line he's not supporting a $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation bill

seems dead on arrival in the senate with even so-called pro-abortion rights republican senator susan collinsof that abortion law, attorney jonathan mitchell, indicated in an amicus brief on behalf of texas right to life in regards to the upcoming hearing on a mississippi abortion law that he also has questions about the rights won by the lgbtq community. my next guest, jessica levinson, writes all about this for msnbc.com, pointing out that mitchell writes in the brief filed last week that landmark rulings that struck down laws that criminalized sodomy and uphold gay marriage are, quote, as lawless as roe. saying they amount to court invented rights to homosexual behavior and same-sex marriage. joining me now, professor jessica levinson. so, that you know for being with us here, and you know, we talk about marriage equality as being a settled issue here, but with a conservative court, is that a certainty, and did you ever think we'd be back here in 2021? >> no, it's not a certainty, and unfortunately, i did suspect that we might be back here and what we're learning from this particular court

disaster aid that his state needs, that none of the other republicans, including moderates like susan collinsn it. mitch mcconnell has kept his members in line to say, no increase in the debt limit. he wants democrats to do it themselves. so it looks like they'll have to touch this stove on the government shutdown, as things stand, before they can figure out how to move forward on the debt limit, which is a much, much more serious, more economically catastrophic game that they're playing. >> let's talk about the democrats-only bill. moderate democrats in the house are going to the white house today to talk to the president about this $3.5 trillion bill. is it clear at this point who's got more power, moderates or progressives? >> it is not clear at this point, stephanie. and this is an extraordinary bit of game theory going on between these two factions, where the centrists are betting that the progressives wouldn't dare vote down on the floor of the house of representatives a big priority of president biden's, that infrastructure bill. and progressives have a very different calculation. they

kirsten sinema has support much like susan collins. this is what national parties look like and they are working through. >>>. >> we'll see if they are effective party or not. here is joshua, sinema picked up a good share of republicans of 2018 and still has support from them. jonathan lemire, and our analyst/host, john and elizabeth. you know this is awfully disturbing for democrats. this is disturbing for democratic activists and bloggers, this is disturbing for podcasters. this is what a functioning party national looks like. democrats should be celebrating that they have such problems that they got to run a majority. >> yes. they are not celebrating at all because it's looking, looking pretty grim for this infrastructure bill today. nancy pelosi says she's going to put it on the floor. there is a lot of skepticism about that and it's entirely possible by the end of the day she will pull it and say we'll try it again a later day. it's possible. we know she does not put anything on the floor that she does not think it will pass. we s

i read all of that because your colleague on the other side of the aisle, senator susan collins, well, she's not really feeling it. she is quoted in "the washington post" as saying -- and she's from maine, i represent a state with one of the highest turnouts in the country, consistently. and yet we don't have early voting, so i don't see why the federal government should impose rules on a state and preempt state laws for a state that's doing a great job. senator klobuchar, make the case for the freedom to vote act and why senator collins is dead wrong. >> i look forward to talking with her about this in the future. but stepping back, the freedom to vote act, first of all is a major victory for a country, because we've got unity with our voting rights group that's worked on this all summer, including senator manchin of west virginia, senator tester, king kaine, murdoch and myself. >> i noticed a name you didn't mention? sinema. >> senator sinema has been working hard on the reconciliation act, the infrastructure bill. she's been doing some other things. but we've had rave reviews about

please nobody ever mention susan collins to me because she was the main one defending this.amy, i want to kick it back to you. the frightening thing about this is incentivizing vigilantes. you can imagine my lived experience in this country. vigilante justice is something that is frightening. we know what happens when dangerous white men are in power and decide to exert that power over those of us who are not in power. what does this mean for like uber drivers who are taking a woman to an abortion clinic or a family member who's taking a woman outside the state or, you know, i don't think people realize we're going back to hangers and seedy hotels and things that really put a woman's life at risk. >> right, i think we are facing -- draconian is not even the right word. if you think about the bounty hunting, the vigilante sort of times in our past of hunting freed slaves. i mean, that's the kind of law that this is. it's incentivizing vigilantes. it's incentivizing the people who have been terrorizing us at abortion clinics for decades. they are the same people who are in was

west virginia susan collins, a middle person.he people -- joe biden, i respect a man if he had a press conference. there is no press conference with this man. he's told what to do. they give him something to read and they swish him off the stage. host: did you watch on friday? he took questions from the white house press corps on friday. caller: oh, come on, be honest with yourself do you really think that he does what donald trump does? donald trump did some crazy things but this man here will not take questions off the cuff. it's just -- it's as an american citizen, who is the president of our united states? i need someone to actually sit down and give us a couple of hours of real questions. that's all. it scares me. he's our president of the united states and he cannot take questions from regular people. he can't do it. i just want to see him sit down with a group of people. nothing recorded. no answers and just takes real questions. that's all i'm asking as an american citizen. host: this is benny, jacksonville, florida. demo

we talked to people like susan collins, who are moderates in congress, and they just don't see this kind of role for the federal government in the elections, and they are objecting to it at this point. i don't see it really passing the senate at this point. host: we are talking about president biden's agenda and congress with erik wasson of bloomberg. we want to know what you think congress and the president should put on their agenda. you can dial-in this morning. for democrats, (202) 748-8000, republicans, (202) 748-8001, independents, (202) 748-8002. text us with your thoughts at (202) 748-8003. just include your first name, city and state. let's go to frank northport, new york, and independent. you are up first. go ahead. caller: good morning. erik, i want to talk specifically about the debt and only the debt. since clinton left office, when clinton left office, he had a surplus, and since then we have had two republican presidents, and the debt has continued to climb. how do they explain this increase in debt? thanks, erik. guest: i think we are seeing republicans go to boards the f